It's a tree factory. You wouldn't expect unlimited access to ride your bike through a car factory, even if it was publically owned. And if you tried, you'd not be too shocked to have a factory worker boot you up the arse.
forestry commission thug...?
Lifted from larger quote by FC spokesperson:
Good relations with visitors to our forests – and, indeed, their safety – are extremely important to us.
Someone should point the Commission to this thread, to emphasise that these forest visitors, who One would think likely side with the cyclist, actually think he's a MAHOOSIVE bell-end and does us no favours at all.
I ride Wentwood all the time. And never had a problem with Forestry Workers often stop and chat and all have been cool.
Never saw the video, so cant really comment.
I built and riden and lost many trails in Wentwood. But thats just part of our game IMO.
The NEW Trail will be better. However, I never really got over losing the "Lost Trail" over Gray Hill way :-(.
+1 for rusty
+1 for rusty..
mtb bell end IMO
edit: and name and shame the bell end please...stw pitchforks at the ready
Came here via the ST front page too...
Harvesting and haulage 41.2
Recreation, etc 56.0
Recreation, etc 18.7
Agree with all the comments about the provocation of camera boy, but as an aside I found these figures interesting, especially the difference between what the FC spend on supporting recreation as opposed to what they get back from car park fees, etc etc...
AS an aside I thought the brash was left so as it rotted down the nutrients went back into the soil?
The brash is left until most of the needles have fallen off as they contain most of the nutrients. Also the income from the brash is greater than the cost of applying fertliser.
The timber income acheived by FC for it's clients (us) is far less than the private sector acheives for it's clients
Leaving brash also fulfils the requirements of FSC accreditation to leave 'x' amount of wood on site for habitat. With bio fuel power stations, it's now quite easy to sell the brash if you have a baler, but FSC/UKWAS accreditation is still valued.
The clear up is also more likely to fall to a different team/contractor to the felling. If the site is replanted the brash will probably be rowed up and if you are lucky, you will find that brash mats would have been built over trails to protect them during harvesting.
FC timber fetches lower prices as the standard tends to be lower than private estates. They also conatin a lot of Larch which is getting crap prices right now due to Phytopthora ramorum flooding the market with the stuff.
Not seen the video due to it being pulled, but one of our biggest problems at work is numpties coming through barrier tape and onto site, just because you can't see us or a big machine, doesn't mean there isn't a tree flying your way or hanging over your head.
I know one contractor that works over that way, but he isn't a patient man and this guy would've had a lot of shots of his intestines.
And remember, trees are a crop, like wheat, just a bit slower.
I've added a post to Wentwood Cycling Assocoiation. Tom will probably pin it to the top for a while.
Anyone got a copy of this vid of Nick Ryder?
Nick Ryder formerly of Ryders bike shop?
I'm Tom from Wentwood Downhill that red thunder linked to above, my comment is on the link above but I'll post it here as well
Thanks for posting that up. To make a proper response I would need to see the un edited version of the video. He made a valid question but perhaps didn't go about asking it in the best way. FC respond best to e-mails phone calls and planned meetings, asking the workers direct is not going to result in the action you want but likely to result in arguments like in this video. Also the guy was a contractor so clearly has no tolerance for someone telling him how to do his job. Although I don't agree with the riders way of confronting the FC I definetly don't agree with the reaction he recieved, especially after Ive met many FC workers all who seen very down to earth and easy to speak to. In my view it definetly sent the wrong image to the wider community. I'd advise if riders had issues that they contacted me first and I can bring it up with the relevant people. Hopefully this doesn't have an effect on riders wanting to come to wentwood as its a great place to visit.
I hope some forestry workers aren't going to lose their jobs because of a smart arse with a video camera who wants to show everyone how clever he is.
a happy ending;
Both the mountain biker and the contractor were interviewed about the incident, which happened on a live harvesting site where appropriate closure signs were in place.
Both parties acknowledged an element of fault and regretted that the incident took place, and neither wished to pursue the matter further.
All's well that ends well.
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