I don't know how we'd adapt to victory.
Same way we adapt to defeat...........strong drink and Irn-Bru the next morning. Actually, that goes for draws as well.
I don't know how we'd adapt to victory.
Same way we adapt to defeat...........strong drink and Irn-Bru the next morning. Actually, that goes for draws as well.
The way I see it is England like to hype themselves up and then make an arse of it at the tournament. When Scotland used to get to (I like to hope one day we will again) a tournament, we knew we were shite so just got pissed and had a laugh.
Plus, we won something not so long ago...

...but do we bang on about it? I don't think so! Mainly cos none of can remember what it was...
kennyp what do you think you are doing bringing sensible rational comment into a Scotland/England thread?
I know, I've just re-read my post and I'm ashamed. To make up for it, I'll recount a true story from the 1996 Euros, overheard in a pub in London just before the England - Scotland game:-
English Bloke: Why do you Jocks hate us so much?
Scottish Bloke: Did you see the opening ceremony?
English Bloke: Yeah.
Scottish bloke: Did you see the bit with St George and the dragon?
English Bloke: Yeah.
Scottish Bloke: Well most of Scotland was supporting the dragon!
The way I see it is England like to hype themselves up and then make an arse of it at the tournament
Err, does the name Ally McLeod ring any bells?
Yeah, he took us to a World Cup on a high! That quickly decended into a very low low. How'd your lot do that year?
Shoulda read back over your previous posts kenny huh?
How'd your lot do that year?
My lot? Well they lost 3-1 to Peru, drew 1-1 with Iran and beat Holland 3-2.
As for Ally McLeod, my tongue was in my cheek a bit. He was a great bloke who had us genuinely believing we'd win the World Cup. Who cares if it all went badly wrong. It was fun while it lasted.
Shoulda read back over your previous posts kenny huh?
No worries, done the same myself many times.
Its bad enough being guff at football, but being guff at football banter is a serious new low.
TRUE STORY FROM PUB.
English and Scots guy talking about football.
Discussion raged on with usual banter and then Jock guy started talking about how they kicked England's arse at Bannockburn.
English Guy: forget that, remember when Mcallister missed the penalty and then Gazza stuck the ball over Hendrie's head and scored a classic....what a celebration as well.
Scots guy: Occchhh , now your talkng history.
Well - if you're talking history, what exactly was the score the last time England played Scotland at football.....
'RACIST' T-SHIRT COULD CAUSE MORONS TO SAY STUFF
24-02-10
A SCOTTISH t-shirt expressing dislike of the England football team could cause morons to say things, experts have warned.
The shirt, which wishes success to 'Anyone But England' in this summer's World Cup, is likely to provoke at least 48 hours of tedious debate about post-devolution British identity and why Scotland needs to grow up.
Experts say the policeman who warned an Aberdeen shopkeeper about displaying the shirt must now take responsibility for the resulting avalanche of bullshit articles and mind-buggering exchanges on Live from Studio Five.
Julian Cook, the Nicky Campbell Professor for the Understanding of Stupid Debates at Reading University, said: "At first you'll get some articles about why the police have to intervene in every single little thing and how this country simply isn't free any more.
"But that will quickly give way to columnists saying 'actually, this incident does raise a serious point about Britain...' when, of course, it doesn't. It just **** doesn't.
"And by the end of today the BBC will have sent camera crews on to the streets of Glasgow and Coventry to gather up the kind of soul-destroying responses that will lead to yet another traffic spike on French property websites."
He added: "By Friday you may even get a column in the Independent about 'why must the British media analyse absolutely everything?' which will of course be written without even the faintest whiff of self-awareness."
But veteran Daily Telegraph columnist, Denys Hatton, said that while the t-shirt was no doubt meant to be taken in jest, it would inevitably lead to the break up the United Kingdom and generations of blood soaked conflict that will divide families and lay waste to Berwick Upon Tweed.
He added: "When will the prime minister have the guts to accept responsibility for this genocidal 't-shirt' and go back to the land of chippy, drunken, bestial perverts from whence he was puked?"
If we (ie Scotland) had ever won it then we'd bang on about it as well.
True. Celtic's 1967 European Cup victory being a case in point.
some scotch folk are weird. The folk defending this t-shirt, as a laugh, are the same ones who take the huff when English media interchange Scot & Brit and talk about Englands chances at the world cup.
It's ok for the Tartan Army to be patriotic but not the English.
Small town teuchters.
some scotch folk are weird. The folk defending this t-shirt, as a laugh, are the same ones who take the huff when English media interchange Scot & Brit and talk about Englands chances at the world cup.
It's ok for the Tartan Army to be patriotic but not the English.
Small town teuchters
+1
some scotch folk are weird. The folk defending this t-shirt, as a laugh, are the same ones who take the huff when English media interchange Scot & Brit and talk about Englands chances at the world cup.It's ok for the Tartan Army to be patriotic but not the English.
1. Scotch is a drink.
2. Who interchanges Scotland and Britain? English media *should* talk about England. The problem is British media (along with most people) interchange English and British.
3. Nobody's saying the English can't be patriotic. When it comes to football it's half the fun. Wave your flags of St. George and try not to be too bitter that foreign birds love men in kilts.
1. Scotch is a drink. -Biter! could be a pie or an egg or a bonnet etc
2. Who interchanges Scotland and Britain? English media *should* talk about England. The problem is British media (along with most people) interchange English and British. - The British Tenniser Murray when he's winning and the Scotch Tenniser Murray when he's losing.
3. Nobody's saying the English can't be patriotic. When it comes to football it's half the fun. Wave your flags of St. George and try not to be too bitter that foreign birds love men in kilts.- Tartan trannies in tweety pie boots.
In your office....right, that must be case for ALL English sporting fans then
Well you know what - it's not just in this office. As a Wales fan who's either lived in England or worked in mixed offices all his life, let me tell you it's not just ONE office.
Banter is part of the game, no problems there, and it's defintiely both ways. The English rub Wales' noses in it when they win because of the 70s, and Wales reciprocate because of the 80s and 90s
It's when it goes outside ruby that it can get bad...
i love it/want one and im "english" (from england)
the st georges cross goes on the left hand side of chav numberplates, and on pastey skinned embarrasments off thier tits in amsterdam.
its only an opinon. if anyones offended by it they need to stfu. and keep thier opinons to themselves
if anyones offended by it they need to stfu
I'm not too bothered about it, but I think people have the right to be offended.
i do too. but that takes the mick.
next step is to be offended by an oposing team supporting thier own team surely?
Pehaps the shop in question should diffuse the focus of any offence by widening its range; ANYONE BUT RANGERS! would be a popular model, ANYONE BUT HEARTS!-put me down for one of them!
ANYONE BUT MURRAY! would sell loads down south...
Olly, are you seriously telling people not to voice the fact that they're offended? Exactly what qualifies you to tell people to STFU?
I really don't care what the jocks wear/do north of the border. Nothing they do affects my life so let them crack on.
I would be very interested to hear TJs view on this, his opinion on racism(if it offends or discriminates by nationality/race/culture/anything; it's racist) would normally have condemned these shirts and he would normally be all over a thread like this.
Lobby; tartan trannies
Two words.....Morris Dancers
I would be very interested to hear TJs view on this, his opinion on racism(if it offends or discriminates by nationality/race/culture/anything; it's racist) would normally have condemned these shirts and he would normally be all over a thread like this.
Yeah, i was just thinking why TJ hasnt chipped in yet. Maybe the Socialist worker has more pages than normal today....
backhander,while you're claiming to not care what we 'jocks' do, that post is full of such barely suppressed selfrighteous offence, that its actually pretty funny.
We'll only have to support the other teams in Englands group as they won't be going any further than the group stage.
west kipper, you're totally incorrect. I really am not bothered by this, I couldn't care less but you're welcome to identify my
barely suppressed selfrighteous offence.It just does not exist mate.
Denial just makes it sound worse
people, please.
let's not confuse the anti-Murray thing with any anti-Scottish sentiment.
i'm English*, i'm delighted to see Scottish sporting success (Chris Hoy, Ruarhid Cunningham, etc. etc.), but cannot bring myself to support Murray simply because he seems like such a git.
*happier being described as european.
Backhander; most countries see English as British? Dream on.Some of the "third world" countries you referred to such as France and Germany are pretty quick to establish nationality.
LOL @ captain!
Backhander; most countries see English as British? Dream on.Some of the "third world" countries you referred to such as France and Germany are pretty quick to establish nationality.
Lobby; tartan tranniesTwo words.....Morris Dancers
You're correct, two words. But I wouldn't exactly call it the 'standard uniform' of the English football fans.
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