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  • Employment/HR bods help please
  • 29erKeith
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    Any advice/thoughts on the following situation please?

    Right I’ve been in my current role for 10+ years
    I was hired as software developer working in the Microsoft suite of technology’s

    Now my company seems to be making a clear decision to purchase a packaged product. They’ve said so far they expect roles for everybody.
    Personally I can’t see that considering the size of the team and what I think will be required in the future.

    No problems with that but I can’t see a future here for me here as there’s no chance of development (career or software) in the next few years. These roles which they expect to be there will be specialist product configuration tweakers with maybe a 10% Dev role using Groovy (subset of Java). Not what I was hired for and not what I want to do. This product and Groovy are pretty niche things and I don’t want to be dumped by the company with an out of date/useless skill set. They have and will dump staff with statutory at the drop of a hat, they’ve done it plenty of times most recently just a year ago.

    I’ve been asking my boss for training all year and getting knocked back every time ‘Not now’, ‘now’s not the right time’ etc each time I’ve asked for training it’s been for project type stuff (Scrum/Agile) or Microsoft development courses to keep my skills up to date. Development tools move on quickly and you need to keep up to date on these things. The training that I’ve been asking for are completely applicable to here and now and for the next 2 years until we’ve migrated across to this new product.

    just to paint a little picture of my boss, he’s a very tight with budgets always has been especially with training. He’s a developer in a management role and is frankly an awful manager.

    The job markets not to strong at the moment and especially this time of year. I’m resigned the the fact that I’ll be moving on but that might be a good few months time as I not going to jump at the first job, I don’t luckily need to, so I’ll take my time and move for the right one.

    I’ve got my PDP today, what sort of a leg to I stand on to try and force them to give me some training to keep my skills up to date?
    How honest do you think I should be in my PDP about my thoughts/plans?

    apologies for the length of post and if you’ve stuck with it thus far thanks

    antigee
    Full Member

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    i guess depends who reviews yr PDP which i’m assuming is personal development plan – i’d just repeat:

    Development tools move on quickly and you need to keep up to date on these things. The training that I’ve been asking for are completely applicable to here and now and for the next 2 years until we’ve migrated across to this new product.

    and emphasise that a 2yr migration is a long time and that skills need to be kept up to date and that it has a value to the company

    I guess if only yr boss sees/does you may be working against the wind

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    I don’t think you really have a lot of leverage to force your employer to train you to keep your skills up to date – especially if these are skills the employer does not need you to have.

    Ask, push for it showing the advantages to your employer, offer to meet part of the costs?

    29erKeith
    Free Member

    thanks antigee <Edit> and TJ <Edit/>

    Just got out actually
    yeah I pretty much stressed what you highlighted above

    had a pretty long and very frank discussion where we both said it’s probably time to move on which it is

    But sounds like I might! be able to get some training out of them in the mean time. I know I’ve a responsibility to myself and my career so I am doing some self study. But that can be pretty slow going and without putting it in to use it can fall out of your head pretty quickly. A good course and real world experience is worth a 100 books imo

    Depending on how the next few months go I could stay a year maybe 2 tops but fingers crossed I can continue to move forward in the mean time, I’ll continue to look about though in case the perfect role comes up

    Still a shame though as I generally like it here, there’s just no future progression path for me here, which he agrees with

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