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  • Donald! Trump!
  • wilburt
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    He’s a **** nutjob and to hear a US president advocate Torturing people is scary.

    Even allowing for him being full of shite and never actually doing it what kind of message does it send to all the other nutjobs who might.

    It a **** charter.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    he has alternative facts to explain that one

    CaptJon
    Free Member

    ninfan – Member

    But that doesn’t really anwer the question as to whether it is or isn’t illegal torture does it?

    What would legal torture be?

    outofbreath
    Free Member

    Putting someone in prison for 20 years.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    IIRC its what you do after a legal kidnapping

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    Oh good apparently Mrs May is going present The Donald with a quaich.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-38756197

    “The gift of an engraved quaich reflects the US President’s Scottish ancestry”

    I wonder what they engraved it with.
    Hopefully some messages from the people of Scotland.

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Lol. As “proof”, they say:

    “Despite being issued with a National Security Agency-made “hardened” phone, Trump’s social media activity indicates he is still using an Android. The NSA devices, which are secured with biometric authentication, are restricted to only downloading secure apps from the Defense Information Systems Agency’s store. It is highly unlikely that Trump could download Twitter onto such a device.”

    I wonder how Obama managed to use Twitter for all that time then?

    akira
    Full Member

    Maybe Obama had a computer….

    bencooper
    Free Member

    Meanwhile his press secretary has accidentally tweeted his password, two days in a row.

    BadlyWiredDog
    Full Member

    I’m just going to leave this here. Apologies if it’s been done already, but I can’t face trawling back through the swamp.

    dirksdiggler
    Free Member

    Not sure why he’d feel a need to do that at this point though
    Probably similar reasons to what van jones suggests about voter fraud – a distraction

    Enrange the masses whilst pushing through thoughtless changes to enrich your swamp dwelling fossil fuel buddies

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    Donald Trump’s beautiful big family was there. His favorite childhood dog was there, too, back from the farm where he still lives to this day.

    😆

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    I wonder how you’re allowed out the house without adult supervision.

    ninfan
    Free Member

    I refer the honourable gentlemen to the reply I gave some moments ago:

    What is it about lefties that whenever they can’t win on the points they resort to personal insults? I thought being ‘progressive’ and standing for social justice and equality meant you were all better than that, and that’s why you were all able to maintain the righteous moral high ground? Turns out that it’s just a skin deep facade…

    Donald! Trump!

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    Can you honestly not work out Obama’s method of tweeting vs Chump’s?

    Pigface
    Free Member

    I refer the honourable gentlemen to the reply I gave some moments ago:

    You really are struggling 😆

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Which justifies the abusive tantrum how?

    🙄

    Lefties: (sweary warning)

    [video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8jA-kXZgf8o[/video]

    REEEEEE! 😀

    BoardinBob
    Full Member

    Lefties:

    Righties

    I know which side I’m happy to be on



    ninfan
    Free Member

    Well, That’s what happens when you leave the lab kit out…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/autumpatrice/status/823164742646845444

    binners
    Full Member

    So the Mexican president has snubbed The Trumpet. Somewhat unsurprisingly.

    Hope nobody has got any Holidays in Mexico booked….

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    he cannot afford the cost due to having to pay for a wall

    ninfan
    Free Member

    So the Mexican president has snubbed The Trumpet. Somewhat unsurprisingly.

    More #fakenews? – Trump told him that if he wasn’t going to pay then cancel the meeting.

    poah
    Free Member

    won’t they pay through a reduction of aid that goes to Mexico?

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    US gives about 50million dollars in aid to Mexico annually. Cancelling that entirely means the wall should be paid for in about 80 years. Assuming the estimates of a 4bn bill are correct. Sad!

    DrJ
    Full Member

    Lefties: (sweary warning)

    There we go – it wasn’t really a ninfan afternoon without at least one hilarious picture, was it?

    akira
    Full Member

    Wall will cost $20bn+ accordingly to a few building experts. So it’ll be paid for in about 400 years.

    piemonster
    Full Member

    Are you including the increased maintenance and staffing costs, plus the boosted Coast Guard resource needed to stem the Carribean migrant route?

    ninfan
    Free Member

    There we go – it wasn’t really a ninfan afternoon without at least one hilarious picture, was it?

    It wasn’t a picture…

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    Despite what ninfan claims torture is completely illegal under US law. Which of course is precisely why torture has taken place in Guantanamo Bay Cuba away from the jurisdiction of US courts – they don’t take prisoners to Cuba for the sunshine and the beaches.

    Or else they kidnap them and torture them in another country which is friendly with the US, extraordinary rendition is a fancy term which sounds harmless and means exactly that.

    I can’t say I’ve noticed anyone mentioning the International Court of Justice btw, we really need to move from this mindset which thinks that such things don’t apply to the US governments/presidents.

    If the Unites States isn’t complying with international law then we should be talking about sanctions, including sanctions targeted at individuals with their overseas assets frozen.

    Sure, there’s no realistic likelihood of sanctions being imposed on the US and Trump, but we should at least be talking about it. It’s only by talking about things that even the vaguest possibility can be considered.

    US governments/presidents are not God’s chosen people, their belief that they can do whatever they like with complete impunity is not acceptable.

    EDIT : Just to be clear UK governments, including so-called ‘Labour governments’, don’t have a blemish free record when it comes to torture. And I don’t think the fact that George Bush was a bit more secretive than Trump about his fondness for torture somehow makes it more acceptable.

    salad_dodger
    Full Member

    Quite a few vacancies in the State Department now after the entire senior management team resigned.

    poah
    Free Member

    would be cheaper to mine the border lol

    kerley
    Free Member

    Quite a few vacancies in the State Department now after the entire senior management team resigned.

    Were they part of the swamp?

    chestercopperpot
    Free Member

    How is the remodelling of Mt Trumpmore going?

    akira
    Full Member

    So, the media pettiness continues.Do you wave when you get on a plane? I am sure Washington and Adams didn’t either.Bother you?

    Loving this from a pro trump Twitter dude.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    @poah amd @akira I posted an example earlier of how it might be paid for.

    Mexicans (I assume) send $25bn per anum back to Mexico from the US, the vast majority in smaller cash amounts and often through money senders like Western Union that do not require ID. A charge of 5% (no more than money transfers already charge) would yield $1.25bn pa. Wall estimate is $14bn. A daily visa charge to enter the US, 1 million Mexicans cross daily. Renegotiation / cancelling NAFTA with tarifs used for wall.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    kerley – Member

    Were they part of the swamp?

    A side story to watch- CNN reports they were fired, officials quoted as saying it’s part of “clearing house”.

    jambalaya
    Free Member

    Quite a few vacancies in the State Department now after the entire senior management team resigned.

    US system is different to ours, they are not civil service but political appointees, a new President would expect to make 5000 appointments. Trump fired all tye Ambassadors which in of itself isn’t unusual, just normally replacements are lined up first. Trump just didn’t bother except for Israel, UK and UN

    kelvin
    Full Member

    One for science fans…

    https://twitter.com/ap/status/824374557893083146

    BREAKING: Trump administration mandating EPA scientific studies, data undergo review by political staff before public release.

    akira
    Full Member

    Jambalaya, does trump have the ability to do that though. Most of the orders he’s been flinging out haven’t had any research behind them, Obama had a few weeks of changes and lawyers going over stuff to make sure the orders he did were legal and possible. These details seem not to bother trump though

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