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bonj - Member

When i last went to sherwood pines they were charging £2 each for bike wash tokens, bit of a rip off if you ask me especially since they were absolutely coining it in off it since it was very muddy (the bloke grinningly admitted this to me)

However looking at it, it looks exactly the same as a coed y brenin one.
I wonder if it is possible to get a batch load of them off ebay?
A quick search reveals not - but the company that makes bike washes, I wonder if you could blag them into selling you a load of spare tokens?

Posted 5 months ago #
wwaswas - Member

Theft by deception, then?

Posted 5 months ago #
BoardinBob - Member

So the shop has bought a bike wash machine, maintains it, repairs it when it breaks down and makes it available for public use for a small fee, and you want to dodge that fee?

Posted 5 months ago #
bonj - Member

well, not really. If I use one of my own tokens, they can still get it back and sell it on to somebody else.

So the shop has bought a bike wash machine, maintains it, repairs it when it breaks down and makes it available for public use for a small fee, and you want to dodge that fee?

Well, no I don't want to dodge the fee entirely, I just think 2 quid is a bit steep. Didn't even get long enough to get all the mud off.

Posted 5 months ago #
sambob - Member

Don't be so tight, just cover it up when you put it in the car and wash it when you get home, or buy a Mobi/Dirtworker.

Posted 5 months ago #
jimbobrighton - Member

pretty lame really. Sorry.

Posted 5 months ago #
couldashouldawoulda - Member

Genuinely LOL.

If I use one of my own tokens, they can still get it back and sell it on to somebody else.

Class.

Posted 5 months ago #
bonj - Member

Don't be so tight, just cover it up when you put it in the car and wash it when you get home, or buy a Mobi/Dirtworker.

IN my car?! I don't put it IN my car, daaahling, I'm not that much of a cheapskate that i can't afford a bike rack.

Posted 5 months ago #
sc-xc - Member

I agree mate. I noticed that they were selling the same type of bottled lager in my local pub that I could get for a fraction of the cost in the supermarket - right next door!

No brainer AFAIC, we put a few bottles in my wife's handbag and leave some more in the garden.

Posted 5 months ago #
DaveyBoyWonder - Member

Well, no I don't want to dodge the fee entirely, I just think 2 quid is a bit steep.

OK, get some of your own tokens, wash your bike and then go and give the fella in the shop 50p and explain what you've done.

Post up the pics after he locks the doors and batters you with a set of bombers.

Are you going to get a load of fake quid coins made up for parking machines too as you don't agree with the charges for parking at trail centres?

Posted 5 months ago #
theflatboy - Member

it's fraud, whether they then get to keep the tokens or not.

edit - ~~it might not be fraud, actually. my memory appears to be hazy on the topic.~~ edit again, it is fraud through obtaining services dishonestly.

Posted 5 months ago #
IA - Member

I don't get some people, ride a few K of bike, the begrudge £2 to clean it at a convient time and place.

Posted 5 months ago #
bonj - Member

Genuinely LOL.

If I use one of my own tokens, they can still get it back and sell it on to somebody else.
Class.

In fact going by that I'm actually giving them money 'cos they've got a new token that they can sell on to somebody else, AND they've got more tokens in total than they did have before - which means they're not going to have to replace them as soon which they must do from time to time anyway when they leak out of the system. Yes, I'm obviously morally right.

Posted 5 months ago #
couldashouldawoulda - Member

In fact going by that I'm actually giving them money 'cos they've got a new token that they can sell on to somebody else, AND they've got more tokens in total than they did have before - which means they're not going to have to replace them as soon which they must do from time to time anyway when they leak out of the system. Yes, I'm obviously morally right.

STOP - I'm laughing so much it's hurting!

Posted 5 months ago #
Matt24k - Member

If YOU think they are charging too much then don't use THEIR bike wash. Trying to justify what is obtaining a service by deception is not going to win you many fans.

Posted 5 months ago #
theflatboy - Member

Section 11 replaces section 2 Theft Act 1978. It differs from that section in that it is not necessary for the service to be obtained as a result of false representation. The section covers cases where the services were obtained via the use of a machine. So, for example, obtaining a parking space in a pay-on-entry car park by putting a foreign coin in the slot, or using an unauthorised credit card to purchase train tickets from an automated ticket vending machine, are examples of a section 11 offence.

The offence is punishable with a maximum five years’ imprisonment on conviction on indictment and twelve months’ imprisonment on summary conviction.

Posted 5 months ago #
Matt24k - Member

Five years seems a bit harsh. Maybe community service washing muddy MTB's with bucket and sponge would be better for the rehabilation of the OP

Posted 5 months ago #
bonj - Member

So if I write on the token "this token was not obtained from xxx shop" then I am not falsely claiming that I did buy the token from the shop, and thus not breaking the law?

(oh and contrary to seemingly the general aim of forums i am not out to "win fans")

Posted 5 months ago #
TooTall - Member

Not out to win fans.

Or 'trolling' as it is often called.

Posted 5 months ago #
theflatboy - Member

no, the bit above was added for exactly the sort of situation you're talking about. you are breaking the law by putting the token in the machine and getting the service without correctly paying for it.

Posted 5 months ago #
thomthumb - Member

i just bought some mince pies with a fake fiver. I did write fake very small near the £5 in the corner.

it's the checkout girl in sainsburys fault really.

anyway if the shop gives it out as change then they don't have it and someone else loses out. ergo; not stealing.

Posted 5 months ago #
petefromearth - Member

"I'm actually giving them money 'cos they've got a new token that they can sell on to somebody else"

Think about it. Tokens are not money. They don't benefit from your token unless more people pay real cash to wash their bike.

Posted 5 months ago #
sugdenr - Member

Have you got some kind of stupidity tourettes? Why would you post something like this on public forum. The fact that you seem to have justified this to yourself as acceptable and reasonable is the most worrying part.

What you are saying is 'I want it, but I dont like what it costs' so I have just decided to take it instead because I am entitled to it'

Think - if someone did this to you would you like it? They provide a service, what do you do? Turn up and just take, and you want to be a freeloader at that.

What a pathetic blonker you are Rodney.

Posted 5 months ago #
fatboyjon - Member

This is a wind up because no-one is really this stupid unless you're a regular star of America's Dumbest Of The Dumb on the Moron Channel. I guess as it's the first day of the school holidays you must already be so bored you're trying to wind up strangers on the interweb.

Or, if my some very small chance, you actually mean anything you've written, you really should go and have a long lie down in the dark.

Posted 5 months ago #
Rorschach - Member

Words........fail........me.

Posted 5 months ago #
gsp1984 - Member

They were only charging £1 when they first installed it.

Posted 5 months ago #
wwaswas - Member

They were only charging £1 when they first installed it.

You should have stocked up on tokens before the price rise

Posted 5 months ago #
sugdenr - Member

Or, if my some very small chance, you actually mean anything you've written, you really should go and have a long lie down ~~in the dark~~on a busy road.

Posted 5 months ago #
matt_outandabout - Member

Posted 5 months ago #
couldashouldawoulda - Member

It's a wind up. And I thought a pretty funny one. Not his first either.

Good work fella

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/front-mech-tensioning-device

Posted 5 months ago #
gsp1984 - Member

You should have stocked up on tokens before the price rise

I've never used it, just recall the price.

I have a jet wash in my boot... actually that's a lie, although someone I often ride with does.

Posted 5 months ago #
Matt24k - Member

Business In Trying To Make Money Shocker.
Maybe they worked out that they were not getting a return on their investment.

Posted 5 months ago #
GaryLake - Member

I'm actually giving them money 'cos they've got a new token that they can sell on to somebody else

You understand how it works right?

Posted 5 months ago #
morgs - Member

cost of taken (pence I'm guessing) vs cost of water, upkeep of machine etc.....

seems fair.

Posted 5 months ago #
99percentchimp - Member

I live pretty close to CyB.. I could pop in and get you some tokens and drive over to Sherwood Pines to deliver them to you... what time would you like me there?

Posted 5 months ago #