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  • anyone on here voting tory. why?
  • Kevevs
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    Anyone on here voting Tory. Why? just interested in your thought process. would like some genuine answers and explainations. cheers

    agent007
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    Probably yes because they seem to be doing an okay job with getting the economy back on track and at least are talking some sense on the economy, i.e. live within our means, not borrowing recklessly like Labour would.

    Also you need to think, can you really see Edd ‘William Pitt the Younger’ Milliband as PM? Merkel would eat him for breakfast and we’d be a laughing stock.

    I’ve voted Labour in the past so no loyalty or bias – just vote for whoever I think would do the best job at each election.

    King-ocelot
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    Possibly yes. For much the same reasons agent007 stated above.

    woody21
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    Yes, reasons as above. Also live in an area where they have got a 10k majority

    MoreCashThanDash
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    I generally vote Tory, for the reasons above. Cameron is the least worst option compared to Milliband. They have a small majority here, a traditional Labour area, but we were the first area to return a UKIP MEP a few years ago, and that worries me as well.

    More taken by Lib Dem policies this time. May have to consider wasting my vote on them instead.

    warton
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    No, the bedroom tax is a tax on the poor. They are borrowing more than Labour ever did, and they have done nothing to clamp down on multi-nationals paying no tax.

    robowns
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    Yes – I work for a bank in central London, enough said really.

    sandboy
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    Would have but Gove has taken education backwards and forced many excellent teachers out of the profession.

    Steve77
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    Yes. This generation has benefitted enough from huge government-supported house price inflation without also passing on a £2 trillion debt to future ones. What kind of person feels entitled to a lifestyle their kids can’t hope for and then asks them to pay for it?

    People also portray them as a party of the rich vs. the poor, whereas I view them more as a party of the working vs the non-working, and I think it’s easy enough to get a job right now that I’m ok with that.

    oldboy
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    Yes.

    King-ocelot
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    warton – Member
    No, the bedroom tax is a tax on the poor. They are borrowing more than Labour ever did, and they have done nothing to clamp down on multi-nationals paying no tax.
    POSTED 13 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST

    The bedroom tax is a tricky point for me. It certainly was not fair on some but weeded out a few families I know of who were taking the piss.

    I still think I’m going to vote Tory though. Labour seem very weak, lib dem are a waste of time even if policies are agreeable they will be in a coalition where they get diluted.

    ohnohesback
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    Admit it; all you tories get wood over being able to express your prejudices and impose abject nisery upon other, poorer people; yet thanks to the anonymity of the ballot box, not be held to account for it.

    Oh, and despite railing against government handouts, you’re quite happy to accept the little rewards thrown your way for supporting the anchor (rhyming slang) party.

    Dogspurts the lot of you!

    Rockape63
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    What a tool!

    mikewsmith
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    Admit it; you get wood over being able to express your prejudices and impose abject nisery upon other,
    Dogspurts the lot of you!

    So nicely put there, did you get a little stirring in the trousers while you typed it….

    The Independent newspaper has given its backing to another coalition of the Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties after the general election.
    “For all its faults”, it said, “another Lib-Con Coalition would both prolong recovery and give our kingdom a better chance of continued existence”.
    But it hoped it would be “much less conservative, and much more liberal”.
    Democracy ‘in peril’
    The Independent said it was not telling its readers how to vote but it said it believed democracy was precious and must be revitalised.
    It said the Greens had been a “disappointment”, while UKIP were against “globalisation and modernity, both of which we welcome”.
    “The SNP is an agent of change, with impressive leaders in both Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon. But they are a wrecking ball poised to hit Westminster and, unlike us, want to abolish Britain,” it said.
    It said Ed Miliband had had an impressive campaign, but criticised him on various policies – and warned of any partnership between Labour and the SNP.
    “For all his talk of no deals with the SNP, Miliband is bound to rely on that party to get his legislative programme through,” it said.
    “This would be a disaster for the country, unleashing justified fury in England at the decisive influence of MPs who – unlike this title – do not wish the union to exist.”

    If I could I would, mostly for these reasons.

    ohnohesback
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    The barb struck home! 🙂

    TheFlyingOx
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    Well it’s either my abject hatred of the great unwashed, ohnohesback, or the fact that out of the 6 candidates standing in my constituency, the Conservative appears to be the only one that actually does something for the local communities. The remainder are either party apparatchiks parachuted in to contest an incumbent seat, career politicians with some very dubious local government decisions to their name, or Green/UKIP. At least Tory boy has had a series of actual, useful jobs. Never been in politics before, ties to the local economy in more ways than one (he’s farming stock, studied agriculture and forestry, served in the forces) and generally is a visible, well-liked individual. I’d vote for him if he were standing for pretty much any party, I think.

    rudebwoy
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    they are the class enemy kevevs, trouble is i dont feel i have a political home at the mooment –but where i live its a staight contest between welsh nationalist -who is a tory behind his mask , and labour guy , son of a miner and keen cyclist who doesnt like his leader–no brainer..

    Drac
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    The OP is in full troll mode today folks just ignore him.

    DrJ
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    Yes – I work for a bank in central London, enough said really.

    My employer buys my labour, not my vote.

    rudebwoy
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    drac– moderator — why you say that , he seems curious as why people want to vote for the people that look after a very small wealthy elite –you say ignore him –not very open are you ?

    Drac
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    Look at his other posts.

    mikewsmith
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    you say ignore him –not very open are you ?

    His other blatant troll post this morning didn’t help, He also asked why people voted tory not what you think defines the tory party. There is quite a difference, some of the left seem to have a very narrow perception of what is morally acceptable and that all that disagree must be very very nasty.

    BigDummy
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    all you tories get wood over being able to express your prejudices

    I have never voted Tory, and seem unlikely to start. However, that sort of carry-on is basically disrespectful of the large and perfectly decent proportion of the British population that does vote Tory.

    For sure, the party counts among its supporters plenty of maniacs, and no shortage of people who, for rather dry reasons, support ways of running the country the effects of which on the needy can be pretty harsh. But the idea that the roughly 1 in 3 British voters who will be voting Tory this week are all, or even mostly, motivated by their poor-bashing boners is wrong to the point of daftness, and dangerously divisive.

    ernie_lynch
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    Also live in an area where they have got a 10k majority

    That’s a very strange reason for voting Tory. Still, I guess it’s no stranger than not voting Labour because of the way Ed Miliband eats a bacon sandwich.

    kjcc25
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    Still haven’t made up my mind yet. Have voted Labour, Liberal and Conservative in the past. Moving towards Conservative but still put off by their terrible education policy, the referendum regarding Europe and the uncertainty that could bring.

    kimbers
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    Rupert Murdoch and the Daily Mail support the Tories that tells me they aren’t to be trusted

    Stoner
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    The Independent, The Economist, The FT, support the Tories….

    ….and the way things are going I wouldnt bet against the Staggers coming out for the Tories before Thursday too 🙂

    Matt24k
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    Kevevs, did someone wee wee in your cornflakes this morning?
    You seem to be in an antagonistic mood today so maybe you could do us all a favour and switch off your browser until you are feeling better.
    Thanks in advance.

    nickc
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    That piece from the Independent in Mike’s post is one of the saddest things I’ve seen written about the GE in ages

    kimbers
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    I thought they supported the coalition stoner

    I think the real unbritish part was the way that the Mail went for Miliband through his dad and then the Suns incredibly cynical support of Tories in England but the SNP in Scotland

    Stoner
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    Im not sure how they can write this with a straight face.

    But it hoped it would be “much less conservative, and much more liberal”.

    Its almost as if the direct effect of The Eds is to make even progressive voices turn somersaults to try and justify not backing them.

    EDIT: Kimbers, to me it seemed quite obvious that any backing of a coalition in which the conservatives would be the substantially largest (and larger than the last coalition) party, is implicitly a backing of a a Tory mandate as opposed to a Labour one. Coalition isnt suddenly going to turn tory policies into socialists ones by mixing in a dab of yellow paint.

    just5minutes
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    Ed M and Ed Balls have spent the last 5 years telling us:

    1. There would be a triple dip recession (in fact the recession only had one cycle)
    2. There would be 5 million unemployed (it peaked at 3m and is now at a lower level than when Labour left office)
    3. The private sector couldn’t create more jobs than those lost in the public sector (it’s been 4 created for every one lost, and 9 times more than Labour managed in 13 years)
    4. We would suffer significant downgrades to our credit rating (we didn’t)
    5. Other economies would grow faster due to the “austerity” (ours is the fastest growing).

    More jobs have been created in the UK over the last 4 years than the whole of the rest of Europe put together and more new jobs in Yorkshire than the whole of the rest of France. Despite other economies struggling, ours has continued to grow.

    The upside of the strong economy is that the Tories have done as they said and rightly protected NHS spending which is now the same in real terms as it was in 2010. Contrast that with Labour’s unwillingness to commit to the same thing and there’s a clear difference.

    Looking forward, Labour are back to the 1970’s class rhetoric – discouraging inward investment and job creation. They are the party for those who don’t want to work and would rather our country sinks to an over-governed statist system in which the state rather than the individual is better placed to decide how the results of economic prosperity should be spent.

    Finally, on character. Ed Miliband and Ed Balls have shown themselves to be a pair of charlatans – neither can admit the structural deficit was too high before the banking crisis even though the OECD amongst others continues to say so. They have used pathetic “privatisation” scaremongering with the NHS even though the private sector activity at 5.8 % of spend is only 0.8% higher than under Labour. They are incompetent, dishonest and their lack of any experience outside the political bubble and juvenile fatuous approach to policy would harm our country.

    Anyone who really thinks Labour’s policies are likely to result in success is very welcome to visit France, Spain, Italy or even Germany and see first hand how their countries are doing – be sure to come back and tell us what you found.

    just5minutes
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    they have done nothing to clamp down on multi-nationals paying no tax.

    It’s hard to agree with this In the face of the evidence one of the biggest orchestrated clampdowns on closing the Irish / Dutch / Luxembourg tax loopholes (led by a team from the Treasury working with other governments).

    robowns
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    My employer buys my labour, not my vote.

    DrJ, it was more a reference to why the Tory policies suit me, rather than just voting for the party my employer wishes.

    ernie_lynch
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    As someone who wouldn’t normally vote Conservative I’m in bit of a dilemma because of the great joy two royal births under the Tories has brought the nation. In contrast under Labour we had the tragic death of a Princess which brought unprecedented misery of modern times to the UK.

    jambalaya
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    Statistically as many people will vote Tory on here as will vote Labour and as many people again will vote for a third party. One in six will vote UKIP.

    Answers as to why can be cound in the various political threads

    allthepies
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    Well that’s persuaded me.

    Stoner
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    Ernie’s always been an emotional soul 🙂

    FunkyDunc
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    I don’t want to, but is there really any other viable option?

    Junkyard
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    Can just 5 minutes reference any of the claims as the first two were utter BS and I stopped reading at that point

    As for claiming they are harsh on tax avoiders i the only point i can think is they give them only minor jobs in the govt rather than senior positions…was that what you meant ?

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