i got the sl carbon pro as part of the complete bike package a few months ago, it is a really nice riding frame. only the 2nd time i rode it was in the helwith bridge duathlon, so i'd had no chance to get familiar with it. felt superb flying down some twisty, rough road surface descents. handling and stiffness is confidence inspiring but the frame is still comfortable. i've had loads of bikes, (been riding/racing for years)this one exceeded my expectations. when i bought it the only thing similar was a focus (can't remember which one) but it was around £200 more. recommended.