10 speed - let me get this straight...

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10 speed - let me get this straight...

18 posts & 13 voices | Started 1 year ago by oxym0r0n | Latest reply from Rorschach

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oxym0r0n - Member

Shimano
7,8,9 speed - all mechs compatible with each other & SRAM front mech. cassette, chain specific to number of speeds

SRAM
7,8,9 speed - rear mech & rear shifter not compatible with Shimano but everything else fine (as above)

Shimano
10 speed - different cassette, chain and rear mech - not compatible with SRAM, 7,8,9 speed and different chain/cassette/mech for road

SRAM
10 speed - different cassette, chain and rear mech - not compatible with Shimano, 7,8,9 speed and different chain/cassette/mech for road

Posted 1 year ago #
cynic-al - Member

My knowledge of Shimano 6-9 speed

6-9 speed rear mechs are cross compatable. Fronts? - "kind of" - you may experience rubbing (fnaar).

9s chains work on 6-9s cassettes & chainrings (with a few exceptions).

8s chains work on 6-8s cassettes & chainrings.

Posted 1 year ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

Pretty much, why is this such a big issue? I mean I don't go into halfords shouting the odds because ford oil filters wont fit BMW engines?

Posted 1 year ago #
Stuey01 - Member

I'm holding out for the Gilette Decade 10 blade.

What? oh you were talking about gears.

Posted 1 year ago #
Rickos - Member

Shimano 10 speed rear mechs are definitely not compatible with other Shimano as the cable pull is different. Not certain about the SRAM 10 speed mechs though. I think Shimano have moved to the SRAM 9 speed actuation ratio for their 10 speed (or something very close to it), but don't know if SRAM have changed to something else. Shimano 9 speed is a 2:1 and SRAM 9 speed is 1:1 IIRC.

Posted 1 year ago #
bassspine - Member

All 6 speed mechs these days are so sh1te you can't tell if they're working properly or not. And a 9 speed chain won't fit on the jockey wheels all that well.

6, 7, 8 chains cross are compatible, 9 speed with 9 speed, 10 speed ROAD chains with 10 speed ROAD, shimano 10 speed MTB chain on its own.

TBH I have my doubts about SRAM 10 speed cassettes and shimano 10 speed STIs, we've had some issues with Roubaixes which come with that mix and don't shift perfectly down from 5 to 4.

Posted 1 year ago #
chakaping - Member

Pretty much, why is this such a big issue? I mean I don't go into halfords shouting the odds because ford oil filters wont fit BMW engines?

Where did he say it was a big issue?

Posted 1 year ago #
SpokesCycles - Member

The 10 speed road chains work just fine, got them on all my MTBs which are all 10 speed.

Posted 1 year ago #
Phil_H - Member

According to the man on the shimano stand at sits the actuation ration for the dynasys is 1:1.5

Posted 1 year ago #
bol - Member

I've got a shimano 10spd road chain on my SRAM 10spd drivetrain and it works just dandy. Don't think you can mix cassettes/mechs though.

Posted 1 year ago #
oxym0r0n - Member

Pretty much, why is this such a big issue? I mean I don't go into halfords shouting the odds because ford oil filters wont fit BMW engines?

But why don't they?

I have always liked swapping around components/upgrading slowly but with the recent introduction of so many standards it's progression - better, stronger, lighter bikes blah de blah it is quite confusing and a lot more expensive to change around frames etc.

Gone are the days you could swap a frame and just have to worry about the front mech and seatpost fitting...

Posted 1 year ago #
StuE - Member

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=646014

Posted 1 year ago #
Edric 64 - Member

Where did he say it was a big issue?

Whos homeless?

Posted 1 year ago #
bassspine - Member

so there y'go oxym0r0n, that's it definitively answered - it's all a matter of opinion.

Posted 1 year ago #
oxym0r0n - Member

so there y'go oxym0r0n, that's it definitively answered - it's all a matter of opinion.

Thanks StuE - that's a useful thread for Shimano...

Posted 1 year ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

But why don't they?

I have always liked swapping around components/upgrading slowly but with the recent introduction of so many standards it's progression - better, stronger, lighter bikes blah de blah it is quite confusing and a lot more expensive to change around frames etc.

Gone are the days you could swap a frame and just have to worry about the front mech and seatpost fitting...

My old forks are a bit heavy, do you reckon the new sektor lowers will fit my 2003 pilots?

Posted 1 year ago #
oxym0r0n - Member

My old forks are a bit heavy, do you reckon the new sektor lowers will fit my 2003 pilots?

I don't know why I am even bothering - you don't have a BMW, you have an MG which does not even run, plus you have bombers which weigh as much as my bike not pilots AFAIK.

I bet when you were a kid your lego was all mixed up with sticklebricks and playmobile! Go and tidy your man cave or something

Posted 1 year ago #
Rorschach - Member

The only ting single speed is'nt compatible with is healthy knees....and having friends.
I'm deliberately ignoring the whole 1/8,3/32 thing to preserve the comedy effect.

Posted 1 year ago #