http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail en-US Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:09:38 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://singletrackworld.com/forum/search.php http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1330373 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:23:02 +0000 esselgruntfuttock 1330373@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><em>The best frame is the one that fits you and the<br /> way you like to ride the best. </p> <p>All on this thread are the best for somebody.</em></p> <p> Never a truer word spoken.<br /> This is best for me. My custom built Fleet ( I believe It&#39;s the only one in captivity)</p> <p> <img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4528709667_cbdd7b3b62.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329854 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:12:45 +0000 ononeorange 1329854@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>awelch - Same size as you (exactly) and I have a 21&quot; P7 and a 20&quot; Inbred. Inbred is probably the better fit.</p> <p>All above are ace but for me the Soul has it. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329827 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:05:17 +0000 awelch 1329827@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Jamie : that looks like Dalby forest. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329651 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:53:12 +0000 _tom_ 1329651@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>If I could afford a 2nd XC bike I&#39;d go for a Duster, they look great and apparently have a shorter TT than most which would be perfect for me <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329634 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:39:16 +0000 wishiwascalledsteve 1329634@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Either the DMR Trailstar if you want a hardcore bike, i loved mine, could not only keep up with folk on full suss but usually overtake and leave them standing. With the added fun of a stiff back end.<br /> For XC i&#39;m really liking my Charge Duster, only had a it a coupleof months, but i&#39;m impressed with so far.<br /> <img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2754/4523735380_473166df86.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329610 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:24:28 +0000 cynic-al 1329610@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/2169725448_647e0b6852.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329572 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:02:02 +0000 Jamie 1329572@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>*skip to the end*</p> <p>Taa Daa!</p> <p><img src="http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4020/photozwf.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329546 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:49:40 +0000 awelch 1329546@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That&#39;s weird because it says:<br /> C Effective Top Tube Horizontal (mm) 546 589 602 612<br /> &quot;effective&quot;</p> <p>on the website?<br /> whereas the diagram is misleading? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329395 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:34:59 +0000 Woody 1329395@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That&#39;s what it looks like in the diagram - doesn&#39;t seen to fit with &#39;effective&#39; unless you ar running no seatpost! I&#39;ve just measured my 18&quot; and from centre of headtube (where toptube meets) to centre of seatpost measured horizontally is exactly 610mm ie. the &#39;C&#39; measurement but parallel to floor</p> <p><img src="http://www.on-one.co.uk/images/bike_frame_geometry.gif"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329370 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:21:10 +0000 _tom_ 1329370@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>_tom_: Gravitydropper makes 26,8 posts, check them out. Should be quite reliable product I think. I ride Trailstar mkIII with 130mm Marzocchi btw</blockquote></p> <p>Didn&#39;t realise that, they only seem to sell the 27.2 version on CRC etc. Gravity dropper probably wouldn&#39;t lower the post enough for anyone on a 16&quot; frame though (I&#39;m guessing), as the seat would need to be quite high anyway and GDs can only go down 4&quot; I think? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329361 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:15:44 +0000 awelch 1329361@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>do kona frames come up smaller? Aha, so kona&#39;s top tube measurement is effective top tube length whereas the on-one is a measure from centre head tube to centre seat tube I think?</p> <p>Andy </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329327 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:54:15 +0000 RealMan 1329327@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>You should get a NS surge.</blockquote></p> <p>Everyone should get an NS surge, then wire their doorbell up to a small hammer type device so it strikes the downtube. </p> <p>I swear its the most tuneful bike frame I&#39;ve ever come across. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329322 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:47:56 +0000 pascoa341 1329322@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>If you want a quality frame with rack eyelets, the Genesis altitude is always a good bet. Nice frame and available in a 21&quot; size. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329319 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:47:22 +0000 thumbie 1329319@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Totally off topic but Qwerty, where did you get that stand?</p> <p>Cheers </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329303 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:30:50 +0000 Woody 1329303@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>There is only 13mm difference between the effective t/t length on the 456 and P7 and only 0.5 deg in the head angle with seattube angle identical. 456 is 2-300 gms heavier </p> <p>Really comes down to <em><strong>is the P7 worth £300 more?</strong></em> in which case you are getting into Soul, R8 territory and other 853&#39;s ........Ho hum <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329265 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:02:33 +0000 awelch 1329265@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>The best fitting bike I ever had was a 21&quot; orange p7 from 2005. I like the feel the bike under me, especially seeing as I&#39;m going to be doing a long distance off-road tour on it... on the on one sizing chart the top tube comes up slightly shorter on the inbred than the 20&quot; caldera that I currently own (I had an explosif before that). The caldera feels a bit short (top tube length wise) + also a little cramped leg wise. I&#39;ve got long legs and arms! Anyway, I&#39;ll keep my eye out. Some good bikes here but they all have a lot of seat tube sticking out. However.... saying all this I tried a 21&quot; voodoo bizango and that felt long at the time. I rode about 12000km on the 20&quot; explosif but it had adjustable stem and big risers on it. I think for long distance a bigger frame is better, but I don&#39;t want to overdo it. I think the Orange p7 looks really nice, personally. The inbred is also awesome, especially if they were to do one size up...</p> <p>I&#39;m looking for a frame with rack eyelets at the dropout, doesn&#39;t have to have v-brake mounts thought. This rules out the charge duster, the cove handjob, the dekerf frames. blah blah. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329240 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:43:16 +0000 Ola 1329240@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>I&#39;m riding a DMR Trailstar LT ...<br /> Only thing I don&#39;t like about it is that the seatpost is a bit thin at 26.8mm, means you can&#39;t run a dropper on it if thats your kinda thing. </blockquote></p> <p>_tom_: Gravitydropper makes 26,8 posts, check them out. Should be quite reliable product I think. I ride Trailstar mkIII with 130mm Marzocchi btw</p> <p>Ola </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329117 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:19:27 +0000 khani 1329117@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af349/khani123/100_0232.jpg"><br /> large soul </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329023 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:22:29 +0000 mrh86 1329023@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Im 6ft 5&quot; and ride a 20&quot; 456. Maybe a little on the small side but its fine really! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1329003 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:08:19 +0000 skiboy 1329003@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>+1 for chunkypaul and the EVIL SOVEREIGN.</p> <p>building mine at present.</p> <p>END OF THREAD. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328995 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:59:36 +0000 Woody 1328995@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m 6&#39;1&quot; and a bit, 31&quot; leg and on an 18&quot;. 20&quot; would be more than big enough for you I would have thought as the t/tube is long.</p> <p>Here&#39;s mine set-up before final tweaks. It now has a 70mm stem (the one in pic is 100mm) and risers which makes it spot on for me.<br /> <img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2709/4484238504_aea83fb3a7.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328845 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:36:46 +0000 awelch 1328845@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m 6&#39;2&quot; and I&#39;ve got 34 inch legs so would the 20&quot; inbred suffice? I found the 20&quot; kona explosif a touch on the small side. I like bigger frames because I&#39;m doing a long distance off-road tour and I want a bit more comfort. The p7 looks ideal but new they are a bit pricey.</p> <p>Andy </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328683 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:23:21 +0000 _tom_ 1328683@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I wanted the newer one with swopouts but found an older LT version for £100, feels great and if/when it breaks I&#39;ll probably get another haha. Had an older trailstar before this as well, white 100mm version! </p> <p>Forgot to post the obligatory pic of mine! Here it is in jump mode (don&#39;t care what people say, I prefer longer forks for jumping), I&#39;ve since added 2x9 and a front brake. </p> <p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tomr61/trailstar_pikes-1.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328674 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:14:28 +0000 rafe8t7 1328674@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m with _tom_ above ...ride a Trailstar 09 singled with swopouts and RS forks...sings all day on the Chase!...ride an older trailstar for the commute...happy as Larry! </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328671 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:14:02 +0000 mushrooms 1328671@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/itube/ibp.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt23/itube/ibp.jpg</a></p> <p>Wazn&#39;t an on1 fan but it is a vnice frame <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328631 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:44:30 +0000 _tom_ 1328631@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m riding a DMR Trailstar LT and it&#39;s great with 140mm Pikes on it <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> Head angle may be a bit steep for proper downhill but I like it for XC and jumping with a bit of milder DH thrown in.</p> <p>Rode it at Cannock last weekend and it was great, probably could&#39;ve done with a slightly longer stem for climbing though, but that makes it feel less responsive for jumping so I haven&#39;t bothered to change it.</p> <p>Only thing I don&#39;t like about it is that the seatpost is a bit thin at 26.8mm, means you can&#39;t run a dropper on it if thats your kinda thing. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328624 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:38:21 +0000 jcromton 1328624@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>You should get a NS surge.<br /> <img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_w4SGnnf8Qqw/SxaILL_HfGI/AAAAAAAAAx8/cTfFNQTbiE0/s512/P7160254.JPG"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328583 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:16:39 +0000 Woody 1328583@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>It was also a 9 month old thread.</p> <p>Do a search m8 and you&#39;ll find a lot more info (recent) on sizing. Are you a giant BTW ? </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-1328559 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:04:07 +0000 awelch 1328559@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>This is a great thread. I&#39;m interested in getting an inbred, but I&#39;m worried that the 20&quot; is going to be too small for me. Whats the sizing of the inbred?</p> <p>Cheers</p> <p>Andy </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-510002 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:43:16 +0000 cog 510002@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>P7 love...<br /> <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/3575632142_fb4612d701_o.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-499351 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:05:25 +0000 chunkypaul 499351@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><img src="http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=yt71uw&amp;outx=800&amp;quality=70"></p> <p>end of thread <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-499139 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:26:46 +0000 hora 499139@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Surely they could have made that Jones with less tubing/tidier? It looks like a shelf holding ti tubes collapsed into a pile on the factory floor. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-498759 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:59:18 +0000 qwerty 498759@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>now with Pike and Rampages</p> <p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/403396878_2ca0ef238b.jpg"></p> <p> <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/3#post-498754 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:51:01 +0000 theginjaninja 498754@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>That jones thing makes the baby jesus cry it's so ugly. </p> <p>Still rocking the Kobe. Now my only mountainbike. Worth waiting for a 2nd hand one if you can. </p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ginja_andy/2991639187/" title="Kobe Ti by Andy*Matthews, on Flickr" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3044/2991639187_6b567c8fcc.jpg" alt="Kobe Ti" /></a> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/2#post-498667 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:34:29 +0000 shoefiti 498667@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>ok so not strictly steel, well not steel at all but it does have the absorption you're after.</blockquote></p> <p><img src="http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/2202_puking.gif"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/2#post-498550 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:09:10 +0000 nickhart 498550@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>ok so not strictly steel, well not steel at all but it does have the absorption you're after.<br /> <img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_G1N4SIcd-js/SZwk0GwXvII/AAAAAAAAA-A/kY9Frfwaldc/s400/blog_biff_fugly2.jpg"> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/2#post-498519 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:04:07 +0000 hora 498519@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>They always sell out for a good reason? Worth the wait IMO <img src="http://singletrackworld.com/forum/my-plugins/bbcode-buttons/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" alt=""/> </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/2#post-498509 Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:50:39 +0000 mymorph 498509@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>well thats certainly given me something to think about. i do like the cotic frames but the on-one is such a good price..shame they dont have any in stock again!ill have to ponder on this and see if i can try a few out here and there.<br /> cheers </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/2#post-497496 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:27:04 +0000 kiwijohn 497496@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p>Best steel HT?</p> <p>Salsa Ala Carte. </p> http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/best-steel-frame-hardtail/page/2#post-497451 Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:51:41 +0000 IdleJon 497451@http://singletrackworld.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>stonemonkey - Member </p> <p>Lanesra - Member</p> <p>Surely only 853 steel should be classed as pure steel, everything else is a poor imitation, imo </p> <p>i disagree, plus how many complete 853 bikes are there<br /> </blockquote></p> <p>Just got a Genesis Altitude 20, 853 frame, complete bike £1100. </p> <p>It is the best bike I've ever owned, but I have a sneaking suspicion that's because it's only a week old...... It may be a different story when it needs a bath. </p>