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  • Why didn’t the police give chase?
  • Premier Icon derek_starship
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    I’ve just watched a marked BMW deploy blues to pull over a Corsa. The Corsa pulled over immediately and the officer got out and approached the car but it sped off.

    I expected him to jump in his beemer and pursue but he didn’t. He stood at the side of his car talking on his radio and left the scene a few minutes later.

    Why would this be?

    Premier Icon oldnpastit
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    “These are not the droids you are looking for”

    Premier Icon Jakester
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    If it’s in a built up area they need permission before commencing a high speed chase. Or they know where it’s going, or there’s another unit up the road, or there’s a helicopter coming. Could be any one of a number of things.

    Premier Icon peekay
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    Probably saw that the Corsa had a big exhaust, spoiler and some #modified stickers on the rear window, and realised that the BMW would never be able to catch it.

    Premier Icon dannybgoode
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    Do you a) undertake a risky high speed chase or b) radio ahead to your colleagues who are waiting up the road?

    Premier Icon oakleymuppet
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    Not all coppers are pursuit trained.

    Premier Icon derek_starship
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    Not all coppers are pursuit trained.

    Surely if he’s driving a BMW with ANPR decals, he’s trained to pursue a fail-to-stop.

    Premier Icon maccruiskeen
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    Surely if he’s driving a BMW with ANPR decals, he’s trained to pursue a fail-to-stop.

    He also carries a radio and as you saw – knows how to use it 🙂

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    Do you a) undertake a risky high speed chase or b) radio ahead to your colleagues who are waiting up the road?

    I am calling some version of this or similar.

    According to pal who is senior traffic officer they end far more ‘pursuits’ simply by waiting at the perp’s address, pulling in front at traffic lights/the parking space in Waitrose, or simply knocking on their door the next day.

    I suspect as well that there is risk/benefit assessment going on here – and that they have intelligence on the person driving the Corsa.

    Premier Icon fisha
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    There are different levels of training and authorisation as mentioned regarding the use of blue lights. It depends on the force and their policies. Some may be allowed to use the blue lights to ask a car to pull over compliantly, but not allowed to use the blue lights in any high speed driving or pursuit. ( perhaps the case exampled by the OP ).

    Some will be allowed to blue light drive at higher speed to emergency calls as required, to pull over cars and perhaps to initiate a pursuit but not continue being part of it once fully trained / authorised pursuit drivers are present.

    Some will be fully pursuit trained … like you see on interceptors or whatever.

    As mentioned above, in addition to that, pursuits generally need authorisation/permission to continue from supervisor control … a decision which is constantly reviewed based on the conditions, risks to others etc etc.

    Premier Icon oakleymuppet
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    ANPR decals, he’s trained to pursue a fail-to-stop.

    Good friend of mines a copper, she sometimes drives ANPR equipped cars – isn’t pursuit trained.

    Premier Icon toby1
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    If you had seen a child in the car, would you initiate a high speed chase?

    Not that this did happen, but it might have.

    Premier Icon slackboy
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    Why would this be?

    Because real life isn’t like the Sweeny. People can die as a result of police chases so it isn’t simply a case of firing up the quattro and chasing down the perp

    • Police related deaths: road pursuits England/Wales 2019 | Statista

    Premier Icon Jakester
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    pulling in front at traffic lights/the parking space in Waitrose, or simply knocking on their door the next day.

    I suspect as well that there is risk/benefit assessment going on here – and that they have intelligence on the person driving the Corsa.

    Waitrose? In a Corsa? No, I don’t accept it, simply beyond the realms of credibility.

    Unless you meant the staff car park?

    Premier Icon franksinatra
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    The Corsa was a Just Eat delivery heading towards Police station on munchy run, copper was on radio telling his mates that their Indian Set Meal for 4 (plus poppadum’s, free Pepsi Max and special Korma for soft Barry) is now hurrying up.

    Premier Icon TheDTs
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    Jamie Theakston and his film crew were in the bushes having a pee and the copper couldn’t leave them stranded?

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    Waitrose? In a Corsa? No, I don’t accept it

    Stirling Waitrose shares the car park with TKMaxx, the derelict Maplin and a wee cut through the less salubrious part of town for a Greggs or fresh trim.

    Saves me being accused of classist over Lidl…

    Premier Icon scuttler
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    special Korma for soft Barry

    lolz

    Premier Icon cookeaa
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    Why would this be?

    IANA Rozzer but I’d have thought it more useful to radio in the vehicle details and it’s location/detection of travel to allow other, potentially better placed resources to respond. Also if it was a built up area/busy time, giving chase is probably against general policy due to the risks posed to members of the public…

    Premier Icon Jakester
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    Stirling Waitrose shares the car park with TKMaxx, the derelict Maplin and a wee cut through the less salubrious part of town for a Greggs or fresh trim.

    Is it a franchise?

    fresh trim.

    Is this a euphemism?

    Premier Icon rickmeister
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    MaxPower Corsa which has been driven through Halfords
    A Radio transmission.

    Which is faster?

    Premier Icon onehundredthidiot
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    Because it’s much easier to wipe the “we dun outrun the filth, bruv” grin off their pus by being in front waiting. Also clearer on the video.

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    fresh trim.

    Is this a euphemism

    It’s a teen thing…

    Premier Icon kennyp
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    Does “deploy blues” mean he put his blue light on?

    Premier Icon Klunk
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    if he’s clocked the driver and it’s not stolen…. does he need to chase it down ? Only things is not being able to breathalyze the driver but i assume any penalty now due is going to be equal or worse anyway.

    Premier Icon MSP
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    He also carries a radio and as you saw – knows how to use it

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    Premier Icon Houns
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    Donughs?

    Premier Icon northernmatt
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    Premier Icon SirHC
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    He stood at the side of his car talking on his radio and left the scene a few minutes later.

    Calling in the Drone/A10 strike.

    Premier Icon rickmeister
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    Premier Icon tjagain
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    the old UK phonetic alphabet was best
    Ack, Beer, cheese etc

    Premier Icon Drac
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    It wasn’t safe to do so for a minor offence therefore he radioed in the details.

    Premier Icon MSP
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    Donughs?

    I’m not police certified in radio usage! I failed the snack ordering exam.

    Premier Icon footflaps
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    Calling in the Drone/A10 strike.

    It would save a whole load of paperwork and court time etc….

    Premier Icon molgrips
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    Maybe he had a tail light out and it wasn’t worth potentially causing a fatal crash over it. This isn’t America (yet).

    Premier Icon oreetmon
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    I’m still chortling at the drones comment😁

    Premier Icon grum
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    It would save a whole load of paperwork and court time etc….

    They don’t need punishment…

    THEY NEED GUNISHMENT

    Premier Icon cookeaa
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    Does “deploy blues” mean he put his blue light on?

    No it means he has to trudge back to his car, open the tailgate pull out his guitar and tell the whole community about his Corsa based woes in song form…

    Premier Icon scaredypants
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    No it means he has to trudge back to his car, open the tailgate pull out his guitar and tell the whole community about his Corsa based woes in song form…

    Well, I lolled !

    Premier Icon jon1973
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    Because real life isn’t like the Sweeny.

    True. They probably knew where the driver lived and just rolled his drum later.

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