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  • Who has the biggest leccy bill?
  • zippykona
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    In our shop it is cheaper to cool the whole shop with AC rather than switch on the chocolate cabinet. The cabinet uses 18kw a day. Our bill is £56 a month.
    Up the road we have a posh cake and coffee shop. We went up to visit and had shiny cake cabinet display envy.
    I asked him how much they cost to run his 4 cabinets. He told me his bill is £1000 a month and was happy with that.
    This has me wonder how much the bill is for a supermarket.
    Can anyone beat £1000 a month?

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    BigJohn
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    There’s a wind farm near us. It must cost a fortune to keep those fans going all day. And they say they’re green!

    matt_outandabout
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    I asked him how much they cost to run his 4 cabinets. He told me his bill is £1000 a month and was happy with that.

    I know some of the cost of doing business are unavoidable, but frankly I would be investigating more efficient alternatives…

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    Caher
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    £1000 a month – what are they storing –  liquid hydrogen?

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    convert
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    1% of the UK’s entire electricity use (and you have to imagine all of those millions and millions of homes, the entire manufacturing industry, the street lighting that can bee seen from space and electric cars etc etc to imagine how much 1% is) is powering fridges and freezers in supermarkets. Every four days all the gas & nuclear power plants and the wind farms spend an hour just making electricity for supermarket fridges so we as shoppers don’t have the inconvenience of having to open a door to grab a packet of cheese. Food retail uses 3% of all our electricity consumption.

    Mister-P
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    Oooh that reminds me of something for the “things that make you cross” thread.  People who can slide the doors open on the fridges in supermarkets but can’t then slide them shut again.

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    onehundredthidiot
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    A person at work claims that her bills has&elec for dec Jan and Feb were £1200 per month. Lives in a flat and due to “conservation” can’t change windows turns out her heating is set at 22°C.

    I thought ours were bad at half that cost.

    whyterider93
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    “Oooh that reminds me of something for the “things that make you cross” thread. People who can slide the doors open on the fridges in supermarkets but can’t then slide them shut again.”

    I’ve never ‘accidentally’ shut the next freezer along on someone’s hands who hasn’t closed a freezer properly….

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    dartdude
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    Yes a pet peeve of mine is seeing in supermarkets electric auto security gates though no covers or sliding doors on refrigeration appliances.

    Probably justified by supermarket brands as a means to allow traffic through stores quicker to allow more traffic flow in for maximum gains.

    £57 is my DD for flat for summer months. I stick to using no more than that.

    Op the owner of said coffee cake shop seriously needs to reacess his consumption and to look at alternatives solutions and ways ( mods ) to chill his food.

    There’s no way I’d be content with burning up that kind of usage = £££££s even if I were making silly profits

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    Macgyver
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    I seem to recall that someone with a background in F1 aerodynamics came up with a fan system that acted as a virtual door to reduce power consumption of open fridges.

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    winston
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    We have a dual zone wine fridge which stores 40 bottles at 2 different temperatures Yes yes middle class but my wife used to be in the wine trade so it was kind of a work tool  – you know like a circular saw or a laptop but more fun..

    Problem is it uses almost twice as much energy as our fridge freezer!

    It was bad enough when it actually had wine in it but after a late onset allergy to alcohol, it now mainly has Appletise, Guinness zero and a couple of stupidly expensive bottles of wine that are well past drinking and will just sit there till we throw them out…….not the best use of electricity

    thepurist
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    seem to recall that someone with a background in F1 aerodynamics came up with a fan system that acted as a virtual door to reduce power consumption of open fridges.

    Williams Advanced Engineering came up with an aerofoil blade that could be added to the front of the shelves which kept more of the cold air inside the refrigerator, saving a chunk of the running cost. IIRC it was pretty widely adopted by all the major players.

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    monkeyboyjc
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    We have 2 freezers and four fridges in our shop, our largest fridge which is the only open fronted, costs 1/3rd of our total energy bill to run.

    Oh our bill is £600 a month…

    Wondering why food costs so much now, this is one of the many reasons.

    It’s also why most shops have adopted doors on the fridges – we have a new fridge ready to replace this one, but don’t have the cash needed to install it.

    irc
    Free Member

    Wow! That 18kWh chocolate cabinet uses 3x our house usage. In summer anyway. In July up to 29th we averaged under 6kWh a day.

    Tom-B
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    We used 163kWh in July. No kids and tight as the proverbial… which helps to keep usage down.

    jkomo
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    There’s a massive Manor House near us, looks like a mini Blenheim Palace, bought by some American posh furniture retailer, they have every light on in every room at night. Idiots.

    mattyfez
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    There’s a massive Manor House near us, looks like a mini Blenheim Palace, bought by some American posh furniture retailer, they have every light on in every room at night. Idiots.

    I had to replace a lightbulb the other day…I have a box of spare bulbs in a cupboard, various fittings/sizes that have been acumalated but I didn’t have an LED bulb that was correct, so I had to use an eco-cfl florescent…. that really triggered me and I hate turning it on, now, knowing it’s not quite as efficient as the LED equivelent.

    I think I’d have a melt down in a house that size with all the lights on!

    MrOvershoot
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    At home my leccy bill is around £54 a month averaged out over the year. My old work site bill was £191,000 a month with our biggest site in the UK being slightly over £1M a month! Having said that Heat,light & power only accounted for 12% of our costs.

    monkeyboyjc
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    We used 163kWh in July. No kids and tight as the proverbial… which helps to keep usage down.

    My shop used 42kWh today….

    Sandwich
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    There’s a massive Manor House near us, looks like a mini Blenheim Palace, bought by some American posh furniture retailer, they have every light on in every room at night. Idiots.

    That may be to try and hit the magic Megawatt consumption, there’s a cost benefit to getting ove the line in reduced unit costs. Like @MrOvershoot we also had a stonking monthly bill for making flour. With every light on we just got to a Megawatt.

    tjagain
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    Lives in a flat and due to “conservation” can’t change windows

    You can.  I have done.  Double glazing  all round.

    johnstell
    Full Member

    I just checked – I hit 1.2 mw in July and that doesn’t include the ev or hot water.
    Quite impressed!

    dyna-ti
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    I’m about £50/month for electricity, and I pay quarterly via a paper bill.

    w00dster
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    I live in a waterfront apartment, it’s a duplex, looks amazing during the summer months. Great place to live…..

    Cheap heating from May to October. Then I’m paying about £400 a month just for electric heating. It’s horrendous. Last year I lived in just the down floor. Definitely one of those places that looks good to live but the reality is that it’s a bit naff! Hard to get explain how cold the place gets, I’ve had days where my clothes hanging up on the wardrobe have been frozen!

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    matt_outandabout
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    You can. I have done. Double glazing all round.

    Let’s not let fact spoil some people’s need to spout crap…

    I’ve in-laws who refused to install double glazing, spent a fortune on steel railings, installed a solid wood (cheap) front door and similar because they were ‘in a conservation zone’. Yet had not spoken to council officer about what they could do.

    They’re now living in the oldest building in the town – and funnily enough it’s got double glazing, solar panel, glass balustrades outdoors etc.. I’ve not yet had the bottle or then drunk enough to raise the issue…

    mark88
    Free Member

    That may be to try and hit the magic Megawatt consumption, there’s a cost benefit to getting ove the line in reduced unit costs

    Sauce?

    There’s discounts for Energy Intensive Industries but unaware of anything for general high usage.

    mashr
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    My June bill was £122. Then I realised that the previous owners must’ve left the immersion heater on 24/7 (they sold as they couldn’t afford to stay). July was £59.

    db
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    I think Alton Towers must have a pretty big bill in summer!

    maccruiskeen
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    Food retail uses 3% of all our electricity consumption.

    in the US around a 20% of domestic and commercial electricity consumption is air conditioning .

    slightly depressing that one it the factors driving global temperatures up is efforts to keep things cool

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    J-R
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    In the business of making oxygen, our larger sites could be running several compressors over 10MW each, which would result in them getting monthly bills over £1m.

    I suspect anyone making steel in an electric arc furnace will dwarf that.

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    J-R
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    US around a 20% of domestic and commercial electricity consumption is air conditioning

    ”Interestingly”, Aircon was originally invented as a way to allow magazines to print in colour.

    one it the factors driving global temperatures up is efforts to keep things cool

    Ironic that the parts of the world most against the concept of global warming are the ones most dependent on Aircon to be habitable – south and SW USA, Australia, Middle East. . .

    surfer
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    Recently had an ASHP fitted although obvs we are not using it for heating yet, just hot water, no gas now. Our Electricity bills are still negative. Winter will be very different but to still be negative for a large part of the year is nice.

    doris5000
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    so we as shoppers don’t have the inconvenience of having to open a door to grab a packet of cheese.

    That’s interesting – in my local Tesco, every chilled item is behind doors (with the single exception of milk). Cheese, soup, butter, meat, the lot. I didn’t realise this wasn’t the norm. I wonder why others don’t?

    Flaperon
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    My local Morrisons uses open freezers for their frozen produce. Pisses me off no end.

    Having said that the manager is a prick anyway, blocking bike stands with racks of garden plants and encouraging parking on the sole zebra crossing into the site.

    matt_outandabout
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    I wonder why others don’t?

    My son works for Tesco.
    All open fridges and open chest freezers.
    Apparently Tesco will not replace them ‘until they all break’ – but currently have a repair company out every month as one or multiple ones break down. And it is of course a different department who do replacing things to the department who pay the ‘broken down old machines’ bill who are different department from the ‘pay the leccy bill’…so they are unlikely to be replaced until the store has a full refit, currently pencilled in for 2030.
    And of course the large flat roof with a clear view to the south has no solar panels on…’cos that is a different department again…

    doris5000
    Free Member

    ha, that would explain it!  Our tesco had a refit the other year when it converted from a tesco metro to a tesco express (or vice versa, I forget).  So it had a full re-arrange, and presumably they upgraded then.

    davespike1981
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    Just had a poke around the figures for site £180k for July with 50% of the roofs having panels up – making drugs in mid-Wales

    …legally, not UV lights in a shed!

    squirrelking
    Free Member

    Have you not got doors for that **** fridge yet? Honest tae ****…

    Can’t find the other thread but supermarkets with open fridges and freezers with a **** hot air blower above the aisle!

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    mattyfez
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    I wonder why others don’t?

    Yeah as above, it’s cooporate dipshittery… each department head wants thier figures to look good so they don’t spend on (upgraded fridges for example) unless they have to, as it makes thier annual figures look bad, espesialy if another department has to pick up the bill/slack via more frequent maintenence call outs etc,  gotta protect those end of year performance bonuses!…

    …of course in some cases it means the company is making a net loss over all.

    I have a good example.. I used to work in IT for a major uk supermarket who shall remain nameless… most of thier POS terminals were running on 256, or 500mb DDR2 ram if I recall correctly.

    over time, as the sales software, and windows that it sat on top of became more demanding we were steadily seeing more system freezes/slow performance etc. Anlaysis conclusivley showed they needed more RAM.

    Bearing in mind this was at a point in time when DDR2 was already pretty obscelete, you could buy 1 gb sticks in bulk for a pittance second hand, but trying to get any department heads to commit to spending not very much in the grand scheme of thing was nigh on impossible. “not my department/not my budget” was a typical attitude.

    Completley ignoring the fact it was causing loss of productivity all the time across the board due to the tills not being very responsive, and more calls to IT when it freezes up, so theres a knock on cost impact there, as well as the till operators getting frustrated, so another ‘hard to quantify’ quality of life impact.

    matt_outandabout
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    Yeah as above, it’s cooporate dipshittery

    So much this.
    My son is the baker in his store. It’s taken 18months to get the hand wash sink back working, and he’s a year into the oven having shorted out an element and not fixed…

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