Let's just suppose that there is a specific issue that it is verboten to mention on a specific Internet forum. Now the people who run the forum are entirely honest about why you can't mention it. They are in a difficult position. They probably don't like it any more than the users, but they have to enforce the rules.
Now, the users (for the most part) don't mind too much about the issue itself, or the ban on mentioning it. But the issue itself becomes so intrusively irritating that loads of threads are started about it and ill feeling, thread closures and (no doubt) some 'forum holidays' are granted as a result.
Personally if I were in charge of the forum, I would see numerous, previously well behaved, forum users mentioning the unmentionable as a sign that the 'issue' is becoming more problematic.
Hypothetically. Of course.
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Is this about he who should not be named?
TJ is not coming back. Get over it.
I have nothing useful to contribute.
Let's imagine on this forum that there was one guy on his day off trying to get to the bottom of this issue, whilst also trying to promote their product at a show. Would it be reasonable to expect that it may take time to get to the bottom of this issue, even more so when the culprits of the said issue weren't doing as they asked.
Now, the users (for the most part) don't mind too much about the issue itself
Can't be here then.
We're talking about what colour to paint my gazebo, aren't we?
We're talking about what colour to paint my gazebo, aren't we?
That HAS to be a euphemism, shirley!
Drac - Moderator
Let's imagine on this forum that there was one guy on his day off trying to get to the bottom of this issue, whilst also trying to promote their product at a show. Would it be reasonable to expect that it may take time to get to the bottom of this issue, even more so when the culprits of the said issue weren't doing as they asked.Now, the users (for the most part) don't mind too much about the issue itself
Can't be here then.
Good point, well made. 😀
Sorry but the bags really are good and yes your S types knackered... 😆
Would it be reasonable to expect that it may take time to get to the bottom of this issue
would it be reasonable to have a sticky about an issue that is in hand rather than having multiple threads being opened and closed
Or is this a blue squared attachment thread 😆
Quite. I'd be in favour of a sticky issue.
would it be reasonable to have a sticky about an issue that is in hand rather than having multiple threads being opened and closed
Fair suggestion.
I feel the need to post on this thread
And bear
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Quite. I'd be in favour of a sticky issue.
Now that HAS to be, etc....
Drac - Moderator
would it be reasonable to have a sticky about an issue that is in hand rather than having multiple threads being opened and closed
Fair suggestion.POSTED 3 MINUTES AGO # REPORT-POST
That's a sensible suggestion. Can it please be made or happen so that everyone can appreciate the issues in hand?
I didn't want to be militant, but this hypothetical issue has been getting on my virtual tits a bit.
That's a sensible suggestion. Can it please be made or happen so that everyone can appreciate the issues in hand?
I can't say it will but I can discuss it with the other mods, we don't make a habit of stickies.
getting on my virtual tits a bit.
Sticky pics of your virtual tits or they didn't happen
we don't make a habit of stickies.
You don't make a habit of rogue intrusive ads either - but they seem more frequent that they are are because you don't communicate known issues clearly to the whole forum user base rather than just the frequent thread-clickers
You don't make a habit of rogue intrusive ads either - but they seem more frequent that they are are because you don't communicate known issues clearly to the whole forum user base rather than just the frequent thread-clickers
WOW!
Sticky pics of your virtual tits
Finbarr Saunders has just retired in high dudgeon. 😆
Oh, and thanks to Drac.
On serious note, I don't think most sensible folk have a problem if they are engaged and reasoned with. They may not like it, but if they are given a fair hearing and an explanation then they can at least make up their minds to compromise or flounce.
I'll have the salmon.
On serious note, I don't think most sensible folk have a problem if they are engaged and reasoned with. They may not like it, but if they are given a fair hearing and an explanation then they can at least make up their minds to compromise or flounce.
I agree. I've asked about the sticky suggestion and communicated on here why it may not happen, appears for some that wasn't good enough.
I sent an email to ask to stop my mag-subscription auto renewal a few days ago, because I originally subscribed to support the forum as someone that has used it plenty for information, yet now it's just too much of a PITA with being logged out every few minutes from mobile and the fact work computer can't even load the page.
A sticky would give me some faith that something is being done to provide a balance, rather than threads just being closed, or nuked.
Where are these pics of sticky tits then?
A sticky would give me some faith that something is being done to provide a balance, rather than threads just being closed, or nuked.
They're is usually a link to the thread that has the answers in, we close the threads to try and narrow them down to the on as a point of communication. But yes I do agree as clear answer as a sticky may help. However, half of the issue is that Mark is also being told that something is being done, hence his replies, but this isn't always happening as he planned.
Mark is at the bike show this weekend so he is only checking here and his emails occasionally so that is slowing the soloution too.
I think it's a shame that we are not allowed to mention an alternative solution to the unmentionable problem. After all, surely lots of people have discovered and indeed use it?
Where are these pics of sticky tits then?
A compromise.
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think it's a shame that we are not allowed to mention an alternative solution to the unmentionable problem. After all, surely lots of people have discovered and indeed use it?
We don't deny that but we don't want them promoted on the forum as it'll reduce the income from ads even more which would result in them looking at alternatives way to pay for the forum. The most likely would be subscription only which is not what they want.
They're is usually a link to the thread that has the answers in, we close the threads to try and narrow them down to the on as a point of communication. But yes I do agree as clear answer as a sticky may help. However, half of the issue is that Mark is also being told that something is being done, hence his replies, but this isn't always happening as he planned.Mark is at the bike show this weekend so he is only checking here and his emails occasionally so that is slowing the soloution too.
Fair enough. You lot probably have lives to lead outside of playing dinner lady to the kids playground that is often STW.
If someone was to put it in stark terms, then I'd feel I could make an informed choice. Something along the lines of "if we totally removed the <ahem> from the site your subs would have to go up to £x per year, or if we removed the more intrusive <ahem>, it would be £y.
I may be too much of a simpleton for this, but I don't think I'm unreasonable. Except when it comes to classic English bitter marketing itself as pale ale. Or wheel size. Or access rights..............
Sticky Tits? I'm guessing this is to do with that Valentine's Day thread then. Am I right?
If someone was to put it in stark terms, then I'd feel I could make an informed choice. Something along the lines of "if we totally removed the <ahem> from the site your subs would have to go up to £x per year, or if we removed the more intrusive <ahem>, it would be £y.I may be too much of a simpleton for this, but I don't think I'm unreasonable. Except when it comes to classic English bitter marketing itself as pale ale. Or wheel size. Or access rights..............
Mark has done it previously so if I get the chance I'll see if I can find a post.
Nah! You have a rubbish taste in beer. 😆
We don't deny that but we don't want them promoted on the forum as it'll reduce the income from ads even more which would result in them looking at alternatives way to pay for the forum.
Having fallen foul of this recently I'd have to say that it's not a rule I'd quibble with as if the boot was on the other foot I'd do the same. It's a fair cop (but society's to blame....)
did someone mention gazebos
Mark has done it previously so if I get the chance I'll see if I can find a post.
That would be great.
Nah! You have a rubbish taste in beer.
Oh dear. I won't be able to read it now. I have awarded you a two day holiday from having your replies read by me. The reason being "overstepping the mark and hurting a man in a gratuitous way".
Touché.
Mark is at the bike show this weekend so he is only checking here and his emails occasionally so that is slowing the soloution too.
Come on, the site has been a joke for a while now.
I'm not trying to bash anyone, this is a great place with a lot of flack taken by people (Mods) that shouldn't have to etc, but with the level of discontent that is being conveyed over the last few months, the angle of 'we're sorting this' seems to be taken with the advertisers being the customer, rather than 'us'.
It's not my area of expertise, so that might be the case and from a profit POV possibly most sensible, just saying how it seems to me 😀
Come on, the site has been a joke for a while now.
Sigh! I'm explaining why there's an added issue this weekend. He's been trying to resolve it over the last week.
Sigh, I'm talking 4 months or thereabouts, IME. 😀
it's just too much of a PITA with being logged out every few minutes
With respect, I get logged out maybe once a month, a little more if I change devices, so if you're getting logged out "every few minutes" I'd hazard it's a problem at your end.
Sigh, I'm talking 4 months or thereabouts, IME
But not the current ones. The others have been fixed these recent ones he is trying to fix.
I've done the 'it's your device' checks and even if I hadn't, why should I if other sites don't put me through the same process just to view?
Seriously though, I don't have a strong stance on either side of the argument, just in my experience STW is becoming a pain in the proverbial. It's up to individuals to do what they want. My choice is to cancel mag subscription, I'll decide what to do after that's ended.
That's it. Up to the overlords what to do with their company, not me 😀
Strangely, I've never had any problems with the forum, on variety of devices, but I am a subscriber. In a way I wondered what all the fuss was about.
A few minutes ago a notification popped up on Facebook about the deputy editor, Jenn, winning some award. I clicked the link and it was unreadable due a big green ad for banking.
Pretty crap that interested people can't open such articles and will no doubt be a 'turn off' to many potential customers (yours, not the bank with the big advert)
customers
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^^^ I thought it was better than subscribers, lurkers, bighitters and freeloaders 😀