The meaning of Woke

The thing that amused me most with all this repeating American political nonsense, spread via American social media platforms like Facebook. Is the people who repeat it are the same one’s who criticise young people for being naïve and spending too much time on social media. I’ve had British people talk to me about Dr Fauci like I’m supposed to give a **** what goes on in America, a country both me and them have nothing to do with or any control over 😀

As soon as these daft bastards got chance to rule a platform, they politicised it, took great pleasure in curating glossy public images, following it up with a bit of showing off. All the things they derided these shallow and superficial younger people for :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD dickheads and then some!

I do find it ironic how people who presumably consider themselves anti-racist, anti-sexist, etc, are very happy to be openly racist sexist and ageist about those they disagree with.

Anyone can be a gammon, the -isms you’ve brought to the table here are your own.  The single defining characteristic of a gammon is someone ruddy-faced with anger.

“I’m perplexed as to why people misappropriated a term that applied exclusively to the African-American struggle, when the existing discourse within gender research is already awash with terminology?”

Intersectionality… It has been the dominant ideology within Universities for a couple of decades and has filtered down into all the institutions. It explores the overlap between different categories such as race, gender, sexuality, capitalism, climate etc, etc.

Whilst it is true that there can be an overlap between categories it is applied in a blanket fashion in order to suffocate discourse. Instrumentalzed in this way it means if you offer criticism regarding one or other of those categories you will be assumed to be critical of all those categories and therefore a bigot.

Intersectional theory started within feminism, where it was observed that being a black woman presented specific difficulties that being black alone, or being a woman alone did not. It was an intersectional condition.

Over the years the concept of intersectionalism has grown to include an ever expanding number of categories but what tends to happen is that everyone begins to piggy back on the original racial context,

So if you’re critical of any of the sacred categories, you will be called racist. The second Bill Burr video posted at the top of this thread explains this perfectly.

J-R

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I do find it ironic how people who presumably consider themselves anti-racist, anti-sexist, etc, are very happy to be openly racist sexist and ageist about those they disagree with.

Oh aye ?

The second Bill Burr video posted at the top of this thread explains this perfectly.

Only if you’re a racist (crying joy emoji, winking emoji)

There will be other terms within the gender discourse that could have been used.

it seems like using the term ‘woke’ as it is applied in the current media seems like a deliberate attempt to obfuscate,

as for ‘intersectionalism’ (overlap) is a new term to me.

i think I can grasp it, but I doubt it’s been used anywhere in popular culture.

I think I understand why the media avoid using the term ‘intersectionalism’.

too many syllables:) 🙂 🙂

I think I understand why the media avoid using the term ‘intersectionalism’.

too many syllables:) 🙂 🙂

Many people struggle with the idea of syllables…

…particularly those who use ‘woke’ as a slander.

Exactly!!!

theres yet one more group to be galvanised under the rainbow alliance.

Nigel Farage aims to end the ‘war on motorists’.

Thus marginalised and victimised, motorists can at last seek out like minded types within the woke movement.

Convert – I think @nickc has mostly covered it with:

To my mind the folks who use woke pejoratively were the same folks who accused others of being “Too PC” or said things like “Its political correctness gone mad” a few years back. PC has fallen out of favour and been replaced by woke.

But there’s an extra layer on top now, of people who just use is as an insult.  Much like you will hear teenagers referring to something as being “totally gay” and not actually referring to its sexuality (or hapiness) or even implying its camp – they just mean crap.  Similarly my teenage daughter seems to have taken to calling everything “a scam” not to mean that its a fraudulent activity designed to deceive but just that its shit.  I’m sure there’s a layer of the “woke” insult that just means “I don’t like it”.

As a rule – I won’t waste me time talking to anyone who uses it.

“’m sure there’s a layer of the “woke” insult that just means “I don’t like it”.”

That’s a fair point, a little more charitable than ascribing everybody who uses the word as a bigot. Ultimately, whilst some use it  viciously and some wear it as a badge of pride, for the most part it’s just used lazily.

Just be kind folks!

Much like you will hear teenagers referring to something as being “totally gay” and not actually referring to its sexuality (or hapiness) or even implying its camp – they just mean crap.

Teenagers?  We did that in the 1980s.  If you were a boy, talking to girls was “gay.”