- The life of pie (Binners at work?)
Who is this guy, the Pie Nazi? He’s wrong, anyway; by his own admission, a pie clearly does not have to be wholly encased in pastry.
The solution is simple in any case: stop eating in shit pubs/restaurants (they are the ones who cut corners with the puff-pastry topped casserole abominations) and this “problem” will magically disappear.Posted 5 years agodantsw13Member
A pie is defined by the OED as “A baked dish of fruit, or meat and vegetables, typically with a top and base of pastry.”
Typically is the key word here. A dish is a container, so by this definition, neither a pastry base, nor top is mandatory.
That said, a GOOD pie has both, IMHO.Posted 5 years agoAlexMember
Thanks to the magic of STW, any pub or restaurant purporting to offer a ‘pie of the day’ risks a thorough interrogation over exactly what is for sale.
“Short crust Pastry is it?”
“Proper enclosed pie, or stew with a hat?”
Disappointingly over 50% fail the test. I did once have the chef come out and laugh at the ‘stew in a hat’ comment. He still didn’t make a proper pie tho.
Signed. Obviously. There’s nothing more important going on right now than the good men and women of the UK being offered appropriate pastry based offerings.Posted 5 years agoRamsey NeilMember
If they are going to be arsey about it most pies served in pubs are actually stew with a puff pastry lid not casseroles .
What about stuff like pumpkin pie that has no lid , that’s a flan or a tart surely
I have worked in many restaurants that do the puff pastry lid trick but I always cut the lid in half lengthways and put half on the bottom , half on the top , I suppose that still doesn’t pass the pie test but it’s a whole lot better than serving it in a pie dish that you just can’t eat from with a puff pastry lid .Posted 5 years agonickdaviesSubscriber
The petition makes no sense considering that it does state ‘typically has a pastry base or lid’ that could mean a stew could be called a pie…
The bigger crime is puff pastry. Who wants sodding flaky nothingness over their meat and gravy?? What’s the use in that! A pie is ONLY a pie if it’s proper shortcrust, and thick enough to take out of the foil tin and eat by hand.Posted 5 years ago
We’ve discussed this previously, it’s a passionate STW subject.
I said back then,
It’s really quite simple.
Can you pick it up in your hands and carry it to your mouth? If you cannot (for any reason other than “it’s a really big one”) then it is not, by any sensible definition, a pie. A pie is self-sustaining and stands alone, proud. It does not require third party support from some party-sized casserole dish.
“Cottage pie” and their ilk get special exemption from this definition as they are not “pies” of a “cottage” type, but rather “cottage pie” is its full name. It does not, after all, actually contain cottages(*). It’s a bit like the “slow worm” which, despite its name, is not actually a worm (or a snake either for that matter).
(* – Except when served in East Lancashire football stadiums, perhaps)Posted 5 years agoAlexMember
That ^^ old thread is comedy cold.
I’m not sure where I stand on a flan tho. Other than probably in the middle of it. It’s kind of like the black sheep of the pie family. Everyone’s heard of it, but no one really wants to acknowledge its existence.
Life’d be simpler if we gave the whole thing a semantic haircut leaving us just with ‘Pie’ to be suffixed by ‘with gravy’ or ‘with custard’
And we’ll have none of your new fangled ice cream or other such heretic toppings discussed here either.Posted 5 years ago
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