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  • oop north
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    Indians don’t like Clarkson

    So why is he on the tv constantly over here in India, can’t get rid of it, they love Top Gear over here!!
    And that Christmas special is on at the end of the month, they are really promoting it as something big…going to be interesting… 😀

    Premier Icon aracer
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    If you don’t like it, don’t watch it

    On that basis, broadcast whatever you like?

    So the program was show twice over a major holiday period, yet received ONLY 23 complaints? Goodness gracious me!

    180something on the BBC news site. Must have gone up after the daily wail told people to be outraged.

    Oh come off it!

    Come off what? The Vietnam special showed how it could be done. That was great telly. The India special was like a Tescos BSO compared to a ‘proper bike’.

    It wasn’t very funny, it was mildly amusing,

    It wazunt even that.

    ..casual attitude they displayed towards people’s food…
    Of course, it wouldn’t be staged, would it? That must have been some 6 year olds lunch while he was stitching Reeboks together; will no one think of the children?

    It’s not real; it’s not serious. Get a sense of perspective rather than sitting in front of the tv waiting for something to be offended about.

    Ever bin to somewhere like India? Seen real poverty? Emaciated people begging just to get a few scraps of food?

    As for ‘perspective’; having witnessed what I’ve just mentioned, I think the idea of casually wasting food in the context of a show about India, just to get a cheap laugh, is extremely ignorant and insensitive.

    I suggest you go and witness real poverty for yourself, then you yourself might actually gain a sense of ‘perspective’.

    I don’t like him either!

    If I was Luke, I wooduv glassed the bloke; you don’t know what might happen, no sense in waiting to find out, bosh! Pre-emptive strike.

    just Clarkson being a dick

    His ghost writer is a nice chap, though.

    FeeFoo
    Member

    I actually enjoy some puerile nonsense now and again

    I do too.

    What I don’t enjoy is someone being deliberately offensive, xenophobic and racist under the guise of “just having a laugh”.

    Shameful that this nonsense is broadcast in the 21st century.

    skywalker
    Member

    For f*ck sake, you can’t do anything nowadays without some cock end complaining.

    coffeeking
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    As Brakes has pointed out, it failed on both counts.

    Actually I’d say it wins on both counts, it does have car content and show some nice cars, new cars etc, and it does so with an amusing background generally (thought some more or less amusing).

    As for ‘perspective’; having witnessed what I’ve just mentioned, I think the idea of casually wasting food in the context of a show about India, just to get a cheap laugh, is extremely ignorant and insensitive.

    Thing is you could say that about LOADS of programmes. Hell, you could claim that just MAKING a tv programme is insensitive when you could, instead, give the cash to the needy.

    For f*ck sake, you can’t do anything nowadays without some cock end complaining.

    You can, you just need to engage yer brain rather than leaving it switched off.

    Plus, I’ll leave you to work out the delicious (unintended I’m sure) irony in your statement. 😉

    Actually I’d say it wins on both counts, it does have car content and show some nice cars, new cars etc, and it does so with an amusing background generally (thought some more or less amusing).

    A trio of old motors

    +

    An unfunny painfully contrived mess of a programme.

    = FAIL.

    Junkyard
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    I want to live in a democracy, but I don’t want to be offended”
    Idiots.

    I am not sure why you think this or why this gets trotted out everytime someoen complains about anything. Why do we have laws and make shit illegal if we are not allowed to be offended? Racially motivated crimes? Incitement to commit crimes. Blasphemy, paedophiles etc. It is not as simple as you would like to make it appear. Democracy does not also give you the right to be offensive either.

    So the program was show twice over a major holiday period, yet received ONLY 23 complaints? Goodness gracious me!

    So 23 people who actually like this shit complained imagine what would have happened if those who think it is utter shit and offensive and therefore dont watch it were forced to watch it- might increase the complaints…even fans seem to accept it was poor and in bad taste [ or worse than usual]

    Just turn over if you don’t like it

    Did you read the thread some people do like it but think this was a crap episode

    For f*ck sake, you can’t do anything nowadays without some cock end complaining.

    Do you miss Mr Davidson and the hilarious “chalky White character as well?
    Ps elfin is pointing out that you are clearly complaining and by your own logic now a cock end

    coffeeking
    Member

    A trio of old motors

    +

    An unfunny painfully contrived mess of a programme.

    Funny is subjective, you can’t really claim a win there. Old motors doesn’t make it not a motoring programme. If they did an episode on classics specifically woudl that be a car fail too? Give over.

    you can’t really claim a win there

    I can and I have. Case closed I’m afraid. I don’t make the rules, I just play a superior game, hence why I win. 🙂

    Junky; shh! I wanted to prolong the suspense for as long as poss…

    coffeeking
    Member

    I can and I have. Case closed I’m afraid. I don’t make the rules, I just play a superior game, hence why I win.

    😆

    FeeFoo
    Member

    …cock end complaining

    Perfect TG response!

    May/Hammond/Clarkson: “Cock!”
    Slow-witted audience: “Hurr hurr hurrrr”

    Repeat ad nauseum
    Roll credits.

    Heh! You like that one innit, CK? 😀

    skywalker
    Member

    Ps elfin is pointing out that you are clearly complaining and by your own logic now a cock end

    I guess that makes me as bad as you two.

    I wasn’t complaining I was stating a fact

    No, you were complaining.

    Stating a fact is something you do when you are presenting something which has bin proven to be and cannot be denied. You were not doing this. You were merely expressing your onion, in a manner that reveals you have a problem with what you wrongly perceive to be a fact. This is what is known as a complaint.

    See, I have just stated a fact.

    Hope this helps.

    Ah, I see you’ve now edited your post, presumably to save yourself further embarrassment. No matter, I still give this advice to you for free, cos that’s the kind, caring sort of person I am. 🙂

    skywalker
    Member

    Do you often find yourself sitting alone and wonder why?

    You are one boring mofo.

    Do you often find yourself sitting alone and wonder why?

    Yes I do actually. I also often wonder ‘who?’, ‘what?’ ‘where?’ ‘when?’ and ‘how?’

    Pends on the subject really.

    I think it’s good to wonder.

    Premier Icon Andy
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    The chuzzlewhit (elf) is spot on here. Desperately dull programme that could have celebrated indian driving and culture in all its rich glory in a whitty, funny and original way. But didn’t. Just desperately tedious.

    Instead it was just Clarkson being a dick, Hammond being a dick, and May looking like he’d rather be somewhere else but needed the money.

    A poor waste of BBC resources. Cooduv bin so much better.

    Agreed

    yunki
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    could have celebrated indian driving and culture in all its rich glory

    when have topgear celebrated anything other than clarksons ego..!!?

    it gives exactly what’s expected.. if you expected more it’s your own silly fault..

    Premier Icon Andy
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    Premier Icon Radioman
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    Top gear always seems to have the same old theme which is getting very tired now IMHO. I didn’t find much either to be interesting or funny in this Christmas special. There are much better comedies…with its growing popularity the car component seems just incidental to the shows “personality display” where the presenters try to shock us with their childish boorishness. Anyway luckily there is normally plenty of better stuff on.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    when have topgear celebrated anything other than clarksons ego..!!?

    Go and watch Dave, and check out some older episodes. It wasn’t always thus – not to the extent it is now. Clarkson also used to stay in his box a bit more – he’s not improving with age. It’s the fact TG has been so successful over the years which leads him to believe in his own hype and reckon he can get away with anything.

    jools182
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    On that basis, broadcast whatever you like?

    So everyone has to like every program broadcast?

    The point is everyone has a choice, watch something else if its not to your taste

    Yeah but if you follow that kind of philosophy to it’s conclusion, then it’s ok to have proper racist ranting nutters etc broadcasting stuff on telly? Cos whilst many will be offended, some viewers might not be. And because some might not be, and want to watch that, we as a society should allow it?

    IE, no censorship at all?

    What if someone thinks it’s ok to broadcast hardcore porn at the same time your kids are coming home and expecting to watch CeeBeebies or whatever?

    zokes
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    I don’t remember anyone complaining when the Top Gear Australia presenters were on – there were loads of things for people to vent their fake offence at in that show …

    Actually, the Australian cut of that special was somewhat different in places than the version played in the UK

    joao3v16
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    I want to live in a democracy, but I don’t want to be offended”
    Idiots.

    I am not sure why you think this or why this gets trotted out everytime someoen complains about anything. Why do we have laws and make shit illegal if we are not allowed to be offended? Racially motivated crimes? Incitement to commit crimes. Blasphemy, paedophiles etc. It is not as simple as you would like to make it appear. Democracy does not also give you the right to be offensive either.

    I stole the quote from some guy and there’s a bit more context around it than I could be bothered to explain. But the principle was that there’s a lot of people being ‘offended’ by stupid things that they could just avoid contact with, or accept that some people opinions are different to theirs.

    Yes, certain things are generically morally offensive, and should be treated as such so that they’re dealt with appropriately.

    But most of the stuff we hear people being ‘offended’ by and complaining about just seems to be trivial nonsense.

    And then there’s the PC do-gooders who come out with nonsense like not using the word Christmas because it’s offensive to Muslims … has anyone ever heard a Muslim claim that their religion will not tolerate Christmas? … Nope, didn’t think so … but a group of busy-body non-Muslim jobsworth’s think it’s their busines to tell the Muslims what they should find offensive & has everyone tip-toeing around on egg-shells in case we say the ‘wrong’ thing …

    Deep breath. And relax.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    And then there’s the PC do-gooders who come out with nonsense like not using the word Christmas because it’s offensive to Muslims

    Linky or it’s not true.

    yunki
    Member

    And then there’s the rabid Daily Mail journalist who makes up a story about PC do-gooders who come out with nonsense like not using the word Christmas because it’s offensive to Muslims

    FTFY

    joao3v16
    Member

    And then there’s the PC do-gooders who come out with nonsense like not using the word Christmas because it’s offensive to Muslims

    Linky or it’s not true.

    There’s been numerous instances over the past few years. I can’t be bothered finding any links.

    This year it was Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures … I assumed Tesco had been extensively picketed by outraged Muslims, Hindu’s, Jews etc … Apparently not though – turns out some idiot Tesco employee(s) decided that after decades of being perfectly acceptable they’re suddenly massively offensive to all other religions in the universe, so took it upon themselves to save us all from drowning in our own outrage and horror at seeing an illustration of a baby/shepherds/wisemen/angel … because of course we’re all incapable of just overlooking stuff we’re not interested in 🙄

    will
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    Elfinsafety – Member
    I watched it hoping to see a unique and original insight into India, and how the nation is developing and changing and that, as well as what a fascinating wonderful country it is, like they did with the Vietnam special (their best programme ever, imo).

    Really? You watched Top Gear to get a serious view on a country?

    That’s like watching Pron to learn about a loving relationship.

    Premier Icon aracer
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    I can’t be bothered finding any links.

    Ah – it’s not true then.

    This year it was Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures

    Well interestingly enough I decided to do your research for you. A google for “tesco christmas cards” came up with this article (apologies for the source), “Tesco said: ‘Our religious Christmas card range has increased for the second year running.’”

    MrSalmon
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    This year it was Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures … I assumed Tesco had been extensively picketed by outraged Muslims, Hindu’s, Jews etc … Apparently not though – turns out some idiot Tesco employee(s) decided that after decades of being perfectly acceptable they’re suddenly massively offensive to all other religions in the universe, so took it upon themselves

    So it wasn’t Tesco refusing to sell Christmas cards with Christian-themed pictures then?

    Really? You watched Top Gear to get a serious view on a country?

    I assumed, following the excellent Vietnam special, that the India one might be similar in quality. Sadly I assumed wrongly.

    I wazunt going to take it all that seriously, no. It’s Top Gear. But I din’t expect it to be quite as pathetically crap as it turned out.

    jools182
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    Yeah but if you follow that kind of philosophy to it’s conclusion, then it’s ok to have proper racist ranting nutters etc broadcasting stuff on telly? Cos whilst many will be offended, some viewers might not be. And because some might not be, and want to watch that, we as a society should allow it?

    IE, no censorship at all?

    What if someone thinks it’s ok to broadcast hardcore porn at the same time your kids are coming home and expecting to watch CeeBeebies or whatever?

    It’s a bit of a jump from staged puerile nonsense to hardcore porn

    No, it’s about an ‘I want to watch what I want and I don’t care if it offends anyone’ type attitude. If you take it to it’s conclusion, then why not just allow folk to broadcast what they want, as if they have an audience who want to watch it, then it’s perfectly valid, no?

    Where do you draw the line, is the point here.

    PJM1974
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    I say, these biscuits are bloody nice. Garibaldi?

    Premier Icon stilltortoise
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    Where do you draw the line

    After Clarkson and Top Gear but before broadcasting hardcore pron at CBeebies time. Next question

    Premier Icon 16stonepig
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    I ****ing hate that “Turn it off if you don’t like it” argument. I watched it, hoping it would be good. It wasn’t. I have every right to say it wasn’t good.

    I have to agree with Elfin here. They have made some staggeringly good TV before – the Vietnam special, the original “race” where they took the DB9 to the Alps etc. – but this one was lazy, predictable, transparent faux-buffoonery.

    There was one bit that had potential – the all-comers Indian hill climb. If they had strung that out a bit more, got a few more runners, and actually spent some time focussing on the locals there, it would have been fun, and insightful in a light way. But instead, they had to make it about that duo of idiots and their egos, and James May. I actually like May – his other programs are routinely brilliant.

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