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Persistently casting doubt on his dad's story when a brief google check would show the veracity of the story was just plain rude and Fred/Talky asked them to stop.
Yes, he was a typical bully really. Could dish it out, but could never take it and started crying about it when people wouldn't stop. He rounded on enough people in his time: surely it's fair that others rounded on him? He seemed to thrive on it.
Oh and he was ignorant, very ignorant, on many levels.
Aren't we all on some level?
He was ok - you just had to know how to read him. Plus, I naturally sympathise with people whose mouths get the better of them. It's like a form of OCD - you just can't stop with the arguments...
Seemed fine to me - maybe we suffer from the same "syndrome" or something and so I'm blind to any negativity?
Funny how those who were bullied at school become the online bullies of today?
paddedfred has/had no brakes. You could tell from his number of posts steadily rising to a crescendo over the last couple of weeks that he was going to get a ban.
I've always liked his rantings and don't really understand how people can get so upset about the internet. I get the impression that if you locked him in a room on his own he would eventually beat himself up then shake hands with himself.
Characters are what makes human interaction interesting, and he's a character.
Far too many people on here take/took him far too seriously. What the mods should do is put an automatic signature on his posts:
"Don't take this post too seriously"
Yossarian - that is so true.
Me - I'd just have a shouting match with myself in a locked room
Crikey. 5 pages?
Whether I agreed with his views or not he is/was just some bloke on some internet forum.
I feel a bit sorry for him. Anyone who keeps coming back like that is obviously very needy and just a little bit creepy too.
He'll be back.
FWIW (not much, really), it's interesting what a sense of community there is on here - people feeling quite strongly about how we're a group and this is where we come to chat.
Thing is, it's not *our* forum, it's stw's, so if they want to bar people, they can.
Not that I really knew any of the aforementioned people, mind.
To me there are two issues.
1) Fred was banned without any breech of the rules
2) other people are allowed to stay on here despite having abhorrent views and despite breaking the rules continuously
I know its not a democracy and that it is STWs playground but to me this is rank hypocrisy. Some people get away with using multiple logins to express abhorrent views or return to the forum after lifetime bans with a new login and are allowed to stay, some are not.
It looks like its about does your face fit.
I liked him, he was nice to me. Anyway, vigorous discussions and opposing points of view are good things aren't they?
Was he banned for the word ponce? A quick google gives:
(context, UK, slang) A pimp.
(context, UK, pejorative) A posh or effeminate person
and
An individual who attempts to fake having intelligence, class, or culture.
I always understood it to mean a cadger or scrounger and a woman I work with from Oz once called another colleague a ponce. Upon seeing our reaction, she explained that back home it meant a happy lively person.
Nothing homophobic there
Would I be asking too much, or possibly incurring the wrath of THEM by asking the mods why he was banned? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the fact that this thread is now running to five pages surely speaks volumes about the depth of feeling (both negative and positive) about the cheeky scamp.
I have to say I feel the same way as TandemJeremy, albeit slightly less strongly.
FWIW, I think the moderation could be a little bit heavier but otoh I recognise that that takes time and/or effort and/or money, and apparently I am unwilling to contribute to that myself, so maybe I should stfu. But what I think is bad is that you get a lot (well, no, not a lot - but a certain volume) of very crappy stuff like the anti-Gypsy/Muslim threads that pop up periodically that is never modded. The situation there comes like the boor at a party that's telling "****" jokes - do you ignore him (which lets him think everyone agrees with him) or do you challenge him (which makes a scene and gives him a martyr complex)? Fredboy would always challenge him. But really the better approach would be if the party's host chucked the boor out themselves.
But then again, if you don't like someone else's party, feel free to host your own at your own place.
But then again again, if you're holding the party (forum) to promote your company and attract clients (advertisers and subscribers), maybe having boors hang around is bad for business if it makes you look like you're happy to accommodate them.
I don't know.
Especially if they try to avoid swear filters and other "hot" words.
I had to sit on the naughty seat for a week or two last year for evading the swear filter, which I have to admit I didn't know was actually an offence (I mean, if it doesn't trip the filter, doesn't that mean it won't get the office-bound reader in trouble?) but it's their rules, so fair enough.
But weirdly enough there is a lot of swear filter evasion that goes on that doesn't seem to be problematic, and the thread I had been posting on at the time was one of those "bashing" threads so...anyway, not that anyone cares at this point.
I think the fact that this isn't the first thread running into 5 pages about him goes some way to explaining why he was banned. He's too much trouble, causes them too much hassle, and is something they probably have a much easier life without.
I would like to say that he is NOT BANNED from the Big Bike Bash even after the 'Fred-gate' incident in the chalet bed.
BigBikeBash - MemberI would like to say that he is NOT BANNED from the Big Bike Bash even after the 'Fred-gate' incident in the chalet bed.
WGAF.
Well judging from the fact that were nearly on 200 posts, quite a few people, actually.
KingTut - We he does for a start and anyone who can generate 5 pages of threads simply by not being here 'might' means someone Gives A F
Well judging from the fact that were nearly on 200 posts, quite a few people, actually.
I was referring to the (yet another) cheap plug.
Surely the troublesome people are the most interesting? The easy going ones tend to be mindnumbingly dull 🙁 Bring back [b]TakaFred[/b]!
Ah - bit slow on the uptake there 😳 Also, what happens at the bigbikebash STAYS at the bigbikebash.
Hey KingTut - That is one of the first cheap plugs for the New 2010 BigBikeBash. All of the others were for the 2009 Big Bike Bash!
Please give me credit for resisting last years thread splatter advertising campaign.
[i]Surely the troublesome people are the most interesting?[/i]
Keep telling yourself that Shirley. 🙂
konabunny - Member
what I think is bad is that you get a lot (well, no, not a lot - but a certain volume) of very crappy stuff like the anti-Gypsy/Muslim threads that pop up periodically that is never modded.
Well there is the means to make your objection to a thread known 😉
If you think a post is a deliberate troll, abusive, offensive or otherwise a bit naughty then don’t hesitate to email us at moderator@singletrackworld.com and we’ll have a look. We can’t guarantee we’ll agree with you but at least we’ll be aware of any infringements to other members’ sensibilities.
[i]1) Fred was banned without any breech of the rules[/i]
Other than endless trolling/wind-ups, negative use of the forum, abuse to others, endless emails to Mark @ STW...
People like that are best banned, I'm guessing that the staff have better things to do (like write the magazine that pays their wages) than deal with trolling attention seeking ****s posting deliberately inflammatory shite in vast quantities. He'd had loads of warnings, still couldn't control himself, what do you think is going to happen?!
+1 Crazy-legs
there is the means to make your objection to a thread known
A fair comment.
crazy-legs - Member.........., endless emails to Mark @ STW...
..............
He did? How do you know that?
TJ - c-l is a mod....
What about that rule regarding only having one account? That seems to be largely ignored.
PWNED!
😆PWNED!
druidh - MemberTJ - c-l is a mod...
Fair enough then. I don't know who are mods. Reasonable that he knows then.
Druidh - thats one of the things I find difficult. I am not very good at spotting them but I know of two people who have used multiple accounts to escape the effects of a ban for being racist. One used a different name for racist trolling, the other was banned for being racist then reappeared with a new name.
TJ - the Simon Wiesenthal of STW 8)
Is that a complement? 😕
I'm not, I just happened to be in the office a while ago on one of the many other occasions that FredBoy was being banned.
Oh, un-PWNED then. Don't mind me....
Bound to happen, his being banned again, he couldn't help it, it always happened, he'd start off slow, get wound up, have a few beers, and viola banned. Dunno why he was allowed back on last time, or in fact bothered himself.
Is that a complement?
No it's just a bit of a joke but you'd need to disengage the need to be offended for a second in order to see it. 😉
Trailmonkey - contrary to popular belief I am actually quite hard to offend and thought the comment rather amusing - a good guy but just a tad obsessive in hunting down the enemy. 🙂
who actually is he? what does he do? where is he from? might be good to contextualize this a bit?
TandemJeremy - Member
....I know of two people who have used multiple accounts to escape the effects of a ban for being racist. One used a different name for racist trolling, the other was banned for being racist then reappeared with a new name.....
Two choices really
(1) bleat on incessantly with unproven allegations
(2) mail the mods with your evidence
moderator@singletrackworld.com
Done a bit of both. Reporting posts is a fairly futile pursuit. It has on occasion got me a public slagging from the mods and the best that happens is the thread gets closed with no sanctions applied to the racists even when they have previous. Often no action at all is taken.
However - next time either of these two appear in their racist guise I will report.
Reporting posts is a fairly futile pursuit. It has on occasion got me a public slagging from the mods and the best that happens is the thread gets closed with no sanctions applied to the racists even when they have previous. Often no action at all is taken.
If you really dislike the forum and its moderators that much, there's not really anyone forcing you to stay here is there?
TJ.. I've sat quietly reading your incessant whingeing on this thread and on several occasions laughed at the irony of your opinions, but I've weakened now and maybe because it's friday afternoon and i'm tired or perhaps because it's my birthday today - I don't know.. but.. You have no idea of what has been going on between us and the 'accused'. You've stated so much as so called fact that is in fact the complete opposite. I draw your attention to the fact that we are allowing you to continue posting your illinformed comments on our moderation process and the fact we've mostly left this thread alone. I'll just say this.. Fred/Talk whatever.. was banned for good because of a long and ongoing issue we have had with him. We've been more than tolerant of him and even explained to him that if he did come back and kept his head down then he'd by definition slip under our radar and would be able to participate in forum discussion to his heart's content. He seems utterly incapable of doing that though. Of course, he will read this and be straight on to you by email to make up more nonsense. When he does, could you ask him why he keeps sending us pictures of Obi Wan Kenobi? We are genuinely baffled. As a policy now we simply don't respond to his emails at all. It just gives him the attention he clearly craves and we really have not got the time to waste on him.
That's all I've got to say 🙂 I'm off out to get drunk tonight and celebrate my last year of not being 40. Have a great weekend all.
no sanctions applied to the racists
I've been on here for years now and have yet to see any *real* rascism. I've seen some negative stereotyping, some trolling, some mischevious banter, some concerns raised due to lack of understanding. But outright racism? No. If there was any *real* racism I have no doubt that the mods would be down on the poster like a ton of bricks.
What I have seen though is endless zealatory and witch-hunting. Abuse and verbal violence against those who dare express an opinion or worry that causes offence to the STW Racial Taliban. Get over it.
Mark - Resident Grumpy
When he does, could you ask him why he keeps sending us pictures of Obi Wan Kenobi? We are genuinely baffled.That's all I've got to say I'm off out to get drunk tonight and celebrate my last year of not being 40. Have a great weekend all.
Utterly brilliant!
Oh - and have pleasant evening 🙂
Gotta say Fred has had the last laugh there.
Obi Wan Kenobi 😆 that is just skill.
Mark - fair play to you for that and I accept I have been provocative.
I do understand that it is your playground but I do find some of the modding rather inexplicable in its inconsistancey.
anyway - fair play for allowing this debate.
You've got to wonder about the sanity of some-one sending people he doesn't know pictures of Obi wan Kenobi for being banned of a bike forum...What a tosser, talk about no life...
That's all I've got to say I'm off out to get drunk tonight and celebrate my last year of not being 40. Have a great weekend all.
Happy Birthday old chap........
could you ask him why he keeps sending us pictures of Obi Wan Kenobi? We are genuinely baffled.
Christ he's a fruitcake as well as a knob jockey.
Christ he's a fruitcake
Umm, he shat himself at a bike do. It's not really news is it?
When he does, could you ask him why he keeps sending us pictures of Obi Wan Kenobi? We are genuinely baffled
I'm very tempted to do the same now! Is there a Lego version ?
[i]Umm, he shat himself at a bike do. It's not really news is it?[/i]
I was at that bike do, but that's news to me.
for fred to have shat himself he would have had to be at least temporarily not full of it, in which case i refuse to believe that it happened
happy birthday mark.
For all your condemnation of fred, some of your posts have been cruel and bullying - kingtut, how old are you, 14?, nickc, there's no need for that. This place is getting more right wing and reactionary, and you know what? I'm outta here!
oh dear. toys - pram -thrown out of 🙄
Happy Birthday Mark!
Rachel
This place is getting more right wing and reactionary, and you know what? I'm outta here!
Don't let the door slap you on the arse on the way out...
some of your posts have been cruel and bullying - kingtut, how old are you, 14?
Says the poster who calls the leader of a UK political party a nazi c**t.
🙄
Right wing? WTF? STW? this thread?
A significant proportion of the bullying and nastiness here is done by the left wingers.
I'm outta here!
Did you say reactionary?
Just because some people don't like your friend?
I for one wouldn't like to see you leave this forum but people don't have to share your views mate.
barnsleymitch - Member
This place is getting more right wing and reactionary, and you know what? I'm outta here!
WAIT!
Oh - I'm over it - you can go - whoever you are.
obi wan is the new octopron
Happy Birthday Mark!
and if Fred wanted to stay on here (which he clearly did) he should have paid attention when he was warned.It's like 'police!Camera!Action!' somethimes - "carry on doing that and we'll have to do something" x 25 and then when something's eventually done suddenly the injured party's all over the place with the 'I never dun nuffink'
Obi Wan wields his handbag of destiny...
Toys outta the pram + stars wars quotes - **** this has gone beyond sad now
barnsleymitch - MemberFor all your condemnation of fred, some of your posts have been cruel and bullying - kingtut, how old are you, 14?,
41.
HTH.
Dumbass.
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