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  • Sycamoreless Gap
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    neilthewheel
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    “Did your assault cause a national furore with demands for action from senior politicians? You’d be surprised how motivating that can be for Chief Constables.”

    Can you hazard a guess what the consequences will be for anyone at any level in the police if they fail to bring anyone to book? Or how many shits they will give?

    neilthewheel
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    bikesandboots
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    It’s being chopped up and removed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-67077617

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    thestabiliser
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    Whittling down the suspects. Eventually they’ll make the charges stick. One will bough to pressure and  the crown prosecution service will bring the sap to book etc…….

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    desperatebicycle
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    Looks like it’s going to be featured on Countryfile today.

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    Drac
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    Anyone else sycamore updates?

    jag61
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    Anyone else sycamore updates?

    I thought they’d caught the bloak what done it? Needs his hide tannin

    brian2
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    😂😂. According to the hopeful romanticists, it’ll be back to it’s full glory soon🙄. I did larf at some sap placing a bunch of (now dead) flowers on the stump 🫤

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    CountZero
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    According to the hopeful romanticists, it’ll be back to it’s full glory soon

    It might be on whatever TicToc channel you follow; meanwhile, back in the real world it will almost certainly carry on growing, and producing new growth, but it will never be exactly the same, for reasons that should be obvious.
    I truly fail to understand why people would do this. 🤷🏼

    tjagain
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    its a sycamore.  almost impossible to kill.  It will regrow several trunks from the stump.  trim back to one and it will grow into a tree again.  Thats what sycamores do.  Its often done deliberately with trees to provide firewood without killing the tree.  Coppicing its called when deliberate

    Yes it will take a while to regrow into a mature tree but it will regrow

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    somafunk
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    They should allow it coppice then plait all the new growth together for as long as possible

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    kayak23
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    I did larf at some sap placing a bunch of (now dead) flowers on the stump 🫤

    Yeah, probably one of them saps who’d scattered a loved ones ashes there and for whom the tree held enormous emotional significance, lolz..

    thecaptain
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    There was national mourning in Japan when we lived there over a famous 500y old ginkgo tree that was blown over in a storm one night (just after we walked past it).

    As well as the roots sprouting, they stood up a section of trunk and I think even that’s started to grow again too.

    longdog
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    It will regrow several trunks from the stump. trim back to one and it will grow into a tree again.

    We had a massive Hawthorne (+2′ girth in Shetland) in our garden that finally blew over and had to be cut up. The next year there were loads shoots 4′ tall that we thinned out, the following year they were several of a good thickness and about 6-7′ when we left. Hopefully whoever’s there now is looking after it.

    It’s really really shit what happened, but it will regrow. Sycamore grow like weeds really and in a woodland I managed we had to take 8 mature ones out a year in favour of native and less invasive species.

    The national park guy on countryfile said they’ll be protecting regrowth from grazing, and taking it from there, so I’m sure something will grow back, but it’ll take some time and won’t be in its original iconic form.

    desperatebicycle
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    Anyone else sycamore updates?

    How long you been holding onto that one? :P

    Smudger666
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    Back in my Biomass days, a forester once told me sycamores are the ‘weeds’ of the forestry industry.  It’ll coppice and be back, different but the same sycamore.

    edit – same as what longdog said actually.

    redmex
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    No pun intended but bring back the birch and teach them a lesson, much cheaper for public finances
    Does the IOM still do it ?

    Drac
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    According to the hopeful romanticists, it’ll be back to it’s full glory soon

    No one claimed soon but it will rapidly grow, it’s what sycamores do and they often coppice them. 

    How long you been holding onto that one?

    Soon as I read the post I responded to. 

    gobuchul
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    Our neighbours have 3 massive sycamores.

    Their seeds get everywhere and sprout incredibly quickly.

    The leaves make an absolute mess.

    bikesandboots
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    lister
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    At least we know they aren’t Irish.

    Poopscoop
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    The older of the 2 has had a lot of his life posted online by the Mail… No comment on possible motive though.

    Daffy
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    If found guilty, what  would be a suitable punishment for these two pricks?

    daviek
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    Good god time fly’s by. Didn’t realise this was last October

    Poopscoop
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    Daffy
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    If found guilty, what would be a suitable punishment for these two pricks?

    Stocks and free rotten eggs/veg for the public to throw at them… or community service in some sort of conservation setting.

    bikesandboots
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    If found guilty, what  would be a suitable punishment for these two pricks?

    More than they will get.

    The incident seems to have awoken (temporarily, at least) a realisation that not enough is done to prevent and deter acts like this. However they will be charged in accordance with the laws in force at the time.

    Are there any precedents?

    Or to take it to extreme, what could you be charged with for demolishing Tower Bridge or a cathedral etc. ?

    Practically to hurt someone like this, I’d have them barred for life from holding any licenses for tree work, being a member of any forestry related organisation, and from owning any chainsaw or similar equipment.

    Ambrose
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    Criminal damage.

    dissonance
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    Are there any precedents?

    Criminal damage to the tree and also the additional offence of damaging a historic monument since it hit the wall.

    Or to take it to extreme, what could you be charged with for demolishing Tower Bridge or a cathedral etc. ?

    In those cases I expect counter terrorism laws about bombs and putting all the passerby lives at risk.

    Daffy
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    Could this be classed as destruction of cultural heritage?   There are international laws for this both in and out of conflict, but in UK law I can only see references to conflict.

    Daffy
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    Practically to hurt someone like this, I’d have them barred for life from holding any licenses for tree work, being a member of any forestry related organisation, and from owning any chainsaw or similar equipment.

    How about a number of days community service equal to the age in years of the tree and/or wall spent planting trees, the cost of which is to be provided by the seizure of assets or future pay similar to a student loan repayment – whichever is easier for the government/court?

    poly
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     There are international laws for this both in and out of conflict, but in UK law I can only see references to conflict.

    The wall will be a scheduled ancient monument.  Which has its own offences, but I think the penalties are actually lower than the max for criminal damage.

    Poopscoop
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    Bold look to turn up at court with.

    Still, no sweat.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-69011665

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    sharkbait
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    Yeah, the one on the right seems a little ‘nervous’!

    crazy-legs
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    If found guilty, what  would be a suitable punishment for these two pricks?

    Pop them into some quick drying concrete up to their ankles then chainsaw through their legs and watch them fall over. Punishment to fit the crime and all that…

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    martinhutch
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    Is that Prince Andrew?

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    imnotverygood
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    There’s something about that photo that shouts ‘guilty’

    Poopscoop
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    imnotverygood
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    There’s something about that photo that shouts ‘guilty’

    Yeah, it’s hard to put your finger on it…

    I’m guessing they haven’t heard of social media as their faces are all over it. Perhaps it’s just a new fashion trend rather than an odd attempt at anonymity?

    ElShalimo
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    Or maybe they are practicing gimps?

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    Tom-B
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    The BBC article has the ‘artists court sketch’ of them 🤣

    What a pair of Jeremy Hunts

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