Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Pro: first ride review

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The 50th anniversary of Specialized brings us the fifteenth Stumpy: here’s our early verdict on the Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Pro.

Pros

  • Great handling geometry
  • GENIE shock is impressively adjustable
  • Not overly stiff frame

Cons

  • No more cool side-arm :-(
  • Tyres may struggle in wet/UK
  • £7,500

Specialized Stumpjumper 15 in a nutshell

  • 15th version of the Stumpjumper (the Stumpy debuted in 1981)
  • 145mm trail bike
  • 150mm fork
  • Patent pending GENIE air shock offers impressive tunability
  • Full 29er off-the-epg (mullet kit available)
  • Lots of geometry adjustment
  • Carbon frame
  • SWAT 4 frame storage
  • Price range: £6,000 up to £10,000

The Stumpjumper is now just one bike again. No more regular Stumpjumper and Stumpjumper EVO options. Just Stumpjumper 15. With that said, it really much more like that the previous regular Stumpjumper has been ditched and the EVO is now the de facto solitary Stumpjumper.

Which sort of begs the question, will Specialized (re)introduce a model to sit between the Epic EVO and the Stumpjumper 15 – a Camber perhaps? I actually have no idea but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

Amd does the new Stumpjumper 15 signpost anything as regards a revamped Specialized Enduro? Again, I have no idea or information but one would imagine the Enduro would be going up into 180/190mm super enduro class and sport a GENIE rear shock.

Note the wrap-around rocker linkage

GENIE

Sorry? A what rear shock?

It’s a Fox shock but not as we know it. I shall try and explain it simply because it is actually pretty simple. The GENIE has two positive air chambers (an outer and an inner). For the first 70% of travel, the chambers are connected. Once suspension is compressed deeper than 70%, the ‘GENIE Band’ closes the connection between the two positive air chambers, leaving you just using inner air chamber.

With both air chambers open, GENIE air volume is massive. The GENIE air ports connect both the inner and outer air chambers, resulting in a flatter spring curve for the first 70% of the shock’s stroke
During the first 70% of stroke, the GENIE air ports remain open (the above shock is approx halfway compressed)
Once into the last 30% of stroke, the GENIE Band covers the air ports, closing off the outer air chamber, resulting in a progressive spring rate, preventing bottom-outs

I’ll go into more details about GENIE later. Let’s get back the other stuff.

What else is new?

What else is new on the Stumpjumper 15 compared to the outgoing Stumpjumper EVO?

No more sidearm. Ditching the sidearm has enabled more room for fat shocks (coil piggybacks as well as chonky boi GENIE) and has allowed a reworked seat tube for much deeper dropper post insertion. The S5 I rode had 45mm more dropper insertion than the old EVO, for example. The increase in dropper travel – and the reduction in stem length specced (50 to 40mm) – were the two most immediate things I noticed (and very much appreciated) when riding the new Stumpy 15.

Redesigned rocker linkage. You’ll notice that the main rocker linkage is now one-piece, it extends and ‘joins up’ in front of the seat tube instead of finishing at the seat tube pivot. Think of it as like a triple clamp fork (braced in three spots) instead of a single crown fork (only braced in two). As well as general chassis stiffness, this should alleviate some of the issues with running a yoke driver on a coil rear shock.

SWAT is now in its fourth generation. SWAT 4 has the cover attaching directly to the carbon of the frame; no more plastic rim. It generally looks sleeker and claims to be more a bit resistant to water ingress whilst remaining easy and quick to operate.

Full size water bottles fit all frame sizes by the way.

Geometry

In terms of geometry, there is no wholesale majorly rejig compared to the previous Stumpjumper EVO but there are a few significant tweaks. Stack has increased, especially on the larger sizes. Chain stay lengths vary up to 15mm from S1 to S6. Chain stay length is also adjustable +/-5mm depending which way you set the Horst Link flipchip.

Regarding geometry adjustment, all the stuff you could mess with on the EVO is still present. Head angle can be switched from its 64.5° neutral setting by running a special headset cup (63° or 65.5°). The shock yoke has an offset bushing that raises/lowers the BB height by 7mm. The +/-5mm chain stay flipchip I’ve already mentioned.

Geometry chart

SIZES1S2S3S4S5S6
STACK608 mm618 mm627 mm640 mm654 mm667 mm
REACH400 mm425 mm450 mm475 mm500 mm530 mm
HEAD TUBE LENGTH95 mm100 mm110 mm125 mm140 mm155 mm
HEAD TUBE ANGLE63/64.5/65.5 °63/64.5/65.5 °63/64.5/65.5 °63/64.5/65.5 °63/64.5/65.5 °63/64.5/65.5 °
BB HEIGHT327/334 mm330/337 mm330/337 mm330/337 mm330/337 mm330/337 mm
BB DROP41 mm38 mm38 mm38 mm38 mm38 mm
TRAIL129 mm130 mm130 mm130 mm130 mm130 mm
FORK LENGTH551 mm561 mm561 mm561 mm561 mm561 mm
FORK OFFSET44 mm44 mm44 mm44 mm44 mm44 mm
FRONT CENTER720 mm751 mm780 mm812 mm843 mm879 mm
CHAINSTAY LENGTH430 mm432 mm435 mm435 mm445 mm445 mm
WHEELBASE1,149 mm1,181 mm1,213 mm1,244 mm1,285 mm1,322 mm
TOP TUBE LENGTH , HORIZONTAL541 mm573 mm595 mm624 mm647 mm677 mm
BIKE STANDOVER HEIGHT738 mm751 mm745 mm745 mm745 mm751mm
SEAT TUBE LENGTH385 mm385 mm405 mm425 mm445 mm465 mm
SEAT TUBE ANGLE77.0 °76.5 °77.0 °76.9 °77.3 °77.6 °
SEAT POST MAX INSERTION245 mm245 mm255 mm255 mm285 mm285 mm
SEAT POST MIN INSERTION80 mm80 mm80 mm80 mm80 mm80 mm

The Stumpjumper 15 is a full 29er bike but you can run it as a mullet via an aftermarket link kit. You’ll also have to provide the rear wheel and tyre. I dare say they’ll be some folk who get this mulleting kit as run the bike still in full 29 spec (doing some attendant geo tweaking elsewhere) to raise the BB and steepen the seat angle even more. Kudos to Specialized for making such things possible. It’s interesting, easy and fun to mess about – to us geo tweekers anyway.

In terms of suspension kinematic, with the GENIE shock very much being The Big Thing here, the changes to the frame kinematic are minimal. Essentially the only significant thing is a reduction in anti-squat compared to the outgoing EVO, making the Stumpjumper 15 slightly more active under pedaling.

One thing that is easily missed is that Specialized offer a lifetime, no-questions-asked bearing replacement policy. Which is nice.

Another easily missed aspect is that the rear travel has reduced by 5mm, if we’re comparing the Stumpjumper 15 to the old EVO (150mm) anyway. Compared to the previous regular Stumpjumper (130mm) it’s increased 15mm.

Build kit

Before I return to delve into the GENIE stuff, a quick rundown of the build kit that came on the Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Pro test bike I rode, because it undoubtedly has an effect on the whole experience.

The fork was the first time I’ve properly had a try on a Fox 36 with the new GRIP X2 damper. Perhaps unsurprisingly, but still pleasingly, the 36 was great. A little bit firmer in a sporty sort of way but still grippy and not shy of giving you a decent amount of travel as and required.

It was also the first time I’d tried the new SRAM Maven brakes. Yes, they are flipping powerful. I did feel they required a tiny bit more effort to get the lever moving but in terms of control and modulation I was relieved to find out that Mavens aren’t the lethally binary ON/OFF endo-makers that some people say they are. They’re ‘just’ super modern disc brakes. Which are amazing.

The in-house carbon wheels and Grid Trail casing tyres were fast running little units and did fine in the conditions I encountered. The tyres require running quite hard to stop them folding, which is fine when the conditions allow. I’d be putting more capable rubbers on for typical UK usage.

The Eagle AXS drivetrain worked as it always does; perhaps a bit laggy feleing if you’re coming from a high-end cable-actuated system, but no misfires and no letting-off-the-gas required. I personally really like AXS, so there.

The BikeYoke Revive Max dropper was of a decent length (213mm). Finally having a 200mm+ dropper on a Specialized really is like unlocking some sort of Special Move. Specialized bikes have always had decent standover so to have that finally, fully combine with a saddle that disappears properly is a really massive improvement.

Finally, kudos to Specialized for the contact points. The aforementioned shorter stem is a good move (though I’d still prefer a shorter than 40mm one – sorry). The bars are wide, comfortable and have a decent enough rise to them – thanks to the increase in stack/head tube length. The wide in-house saddle was invisible. Even the Deity Lockjaw grips were nice (unlike previous years’ own-brand harshies).

GENIE (slight return)

Right then. GENIE time.

Cutaway GENIE and some GENIE prototypes

Proprietary and/or patented shock technology will always get some people’s backs up. I can understand why. It’s a commitment to an unknown. So what I would say early on is: you can run any rear shock you want on the Stumpjumper 15. It’s a regular 210x55mm shock.

(Conversely, I’m sure there will be plenty of existing Specialized owners who’ll be interested in running a GENIE shock on their ‘old’ bikes).

Indeed, the fact that the Stumpjumper 15 Öhlins Coil uses a coil rear shock is illuminating, in a number of ways. Firstly, it confirms that GENIE isn’t as oddball as you may expect (familiar damping dials and volume spacers). Secondly, it tells us a bit about the nature of GENIE in general; namely that GENIE is the latest attempt to get an air shock to behave like a coil shock.

Does it work? Yes and no. Mostly yes. I didn’t feel it was quite as free-moving supple as a coil shock but it was certainly better than some air shocks that rely on large negative air chambers to make the shock supple that then consequently lack mid-stroke and then have far too much ramp end-stroke to be useable/useful.

Having said that, it’s undeniable that the GENIE can be set up in many, many more ways than a coil can. In a spring curve sense at least. You’d have to have a coil with some sort of hydraulic bottom out capability to get the same sort of end-troke progression adjustment that’s possible with the GENIE.

To my mind then, GENIE was much more about the mid-stroke. Specifically, about having a say in how the mid-stoke behaved.

If you want the GENIE to behave like a modern large negative chamber air shock, remove the volume spacer (the bike ships with one installed) from the outer chamber. If you want maximum midstroke support, fill the outer chamber with four spacers. Or go somewhere in between. No special tools are required for volume spacer messing. You don’t even have to remove the shock from the bike.

There can also mess with volume spacers in the inner positive chamber, although it’s a bit more of fiddly job that’s best done with the shock removed from the bike. This is how you can tweak the endstroke bottom-out performance. So yes, you could fill the outer chamber with spacers, remove all the spacers from the inner chamber and imitate the linear curve of a coil.

In terms of external adjustments, the Fox Float Factory GENIE shock on the bike I rode had a low speed rebound dial and a climb switch (with the Open setting also having three settings).

The frame

In all this hullabaloo about GENIE and stuff, I’ve not really talked about the frame. Oops! This is partly because the Stumpjumper 15 still very much looks like a Specialized and that’s very easily taken for granted. Suffice to say, it’s all very nicely executed.

The most obvious change is the lack of a side-arm strut. But keen Spesh watchers will also quickly spot the new wrap-around rocker and the ‘new bends’ in the seat tube and down tube. The seat tube bend is what enables the insertion of loger travel dropper posts. The down tube bend gives the space for full size water bottles.

Cable routing is internal as you’d expect but there is zero use of thru-headset nonsense. See? It can (not) be done! Other supposed mountain bike designers take note.

What else? 34.9mm seat tube diameter. Threaded BB. UDH hanger.

How does it ride?

I only had two days testing the new Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Pro so am not going to try and come out with a definitive take on the bike. Having said that, the testing took in nearly 40km/2000m so it was a better test period than most press launches.

Benji with fellow black-clothing-enthusiast

The first thing I’d say is that the Stumpjumper 15 very much retains the easy-to-ride vibe of the outgoing Stumpjumper EVO. Despite all the carbon this and the GENIE that, the bike was not daunting or unfriendly. Everything felt in the right place. Nothing had to be ‘born in mind’ or factored in. I could hop on the Stumpjumper 15 and just ride it around.

Which in one sense may sound meaningless – if not borderline moronic – but this approach-ability of the new Stumpy very much reminded me of the Stumpy EVO we tested a couple of years ago. I’m very pleased to find it’s still there.

Ultimately, any bike with 500mm reach, 450mm chain stays, 140mm head tube, circa 64° head angle and 77° seat angle is a bike I’m probably going to get along with. But I don’t think I’m an outlier. I think most riders will be well served by the geometry formulae applied across the size range.

I would say that I found the new Stumpjumper 15 to feel a bit ‘softer’ than I remember the old EVO being. I don’t think there’s just one simple factor at play here. It’s no doubt a combination of all sort of things (frame flex, reduced anti-squat, dampers, wheels, cockpit stuff…) but nevertheless it’s a very welcome softening. It makes the bike faster. And even more confidence inspiring.

Although the geometry charts don’t really suggest as such, the climbing position felt more efficient than the EVO. The extra handful of mm on the chain stays (I ran them in the Long setting after a while) won’t have done any harm but I suspect it was the increased support in the rear shock that was I noticing.

Clearly, the main thing of interest to most people is going to the GENIE rear shock. The sheer adjustability of the GENIE shock means getting a proper handle on it within a couple of days of riding (on unfamiliar terrain) isn’t really viable. But here goes…

I think the main thing I felt about GENIE was that it was pretty much like being able to have multiple bikes in one. The generally 4-bar layout of the Stumpjumper 15 is extremely neutral and thus it’s the GENIE shock that’s doing most of the work in terms of changing the ride characteristics.

Running it with just the one volume spacer in the outer chamber felt fine. So if you just want to ride a bike and get on with your life, leave the bike as it comes. You don’t have to do anything to ride the GENIE. It’s just a shock. Set your sag, set your rebound, use the climb switch if you want to. Crack on.

If you do like to mess about with your suspension – kinda like how you can mess around with the Stumpy 15’s geometry with all the flip chips and headset cups – then I think you’ll find a lot to enjoy about GENIE.

Running it with zero spacers in the outer chamber made it ride like some other modern mountain bikes with air shocks ie. with a ‘soft>absent>hard’ aspect to the travel usage. Running it with the maximum amount (four) of spacers really firmed things up and made for an excellently sporty ‘rally car’ feel but could also lead to a bit much harshness in unexpected rough stuff. I think I’m a two, probably three, spacer kinda guy.

Early verdict

Putting aside the GENIE rear shock stuff for a moment, the new Specialized Stumpjumper 15 feels like a bike that is so… obvious, that it’s hard to fathom why so few other brands can do bikes like this. The new Stumpy manages to be a customer-pleasing box-ticker (modern geometry, decent dropper insertion, bottle space, frame storage, shorter stem, no thru-headset cable routing) whilst also still being quintessentially Stumpjumper in its capabilities. The GENIE shock needs more mileage put through it (by me) before I’d publish a finished verdict but all the signs are there that the designers know what they’re doing.

Other models:

S-Works Specialized Stumpjumper 15

  • FACT 11m carbon chassis, rear-end, and link
  • Roval Traverse SL wheels, DT Swiss 240 hub
  • Ride Dynamics tuned FOX FLOAT Factory with Specialized GENIE Shock Tech
  • FOX FLOAT 36 Factory fork with GRIP X2 damper
  • SRAM XX Eagle T-Type AXS drivetrain
  • SRAM Maven Ultimate 4-piston brakes
  • RockShox Reverb AXS dropper post
  • SRP £10,000

Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Öhlins Coil

  • FACT 11m carbon chassis and rear-end
  • Roval Traverse wheels with DT Swiss 370 hub
  • Öhlins TTX 22 M Coil, Ride Dynamics tuned
  • 160mm Öhlins RXF38 M.2 29 fork
  • SRAM GX Eagle AXS T-Type drivetrain
  • TRP DH-R EVO 4-piston brakes
  • Adjustable travel PNW LOAM dropper post
  • SRP £7,000

Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Expert

  • FACT 11m carbon chassis and rear-end
  • Ride Dynamics tuned FOX FLOAT Performance Elite with Specialized GENIE Shock Tech
  • FOX FLOAT 36 Performance Elite fork with GRIP X2 damper
  • Roval Traverse wheels, DT Swiss 370 hub
  • SRAM GX Eagle T-Type AXS drivetrain
  • SRAM Maven Bronze 4-piston brakes
  • SRP £6,000

Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Pro specification

  • Frame // FACT 11m Carbon, 145mm
  • Shock // Fox Float Factory GENIE, 210x55mm
  • Fork // Fox Float 36 Factory GRIP X2, 150mm
  • Wheels // Roval Traverse SL Carbon
  • Front Tyre // Specialized Butcher Grid Trail T9, 29×2.3in
  • Rear Tyre // Specialized Eliminator Grid Trail T7, 29×2.3in
  • Chainset // SRAM X0 Eagle, 170mm, 32T
  • Brakes // SRAM Maven Silver 200/200mm
  • Drivetrain // SRAM X0 Eagle AXS, 10-52T
  • Stem // Industry 9 Mountain 35, 40mm
  • Handlebars // Roval Traverse SL Carbon, 800x30mm
  • Grips // Deity Lockjaw
  • Seat Post // BikeYoke Revive Max, 213mm, 34.9mm
  • Saddle // Specialized Bridge Expert MIMIC
  • Weight // 14.26kg (actual)

Geometry of our S5 size

  • Head angle // 63°/64.5°/65.5°
  • Effective seat angle // 77.3°
  • Seat tube length // 445mm
  • Head tube length // 140mm
  • Chainstay // 445/450mm
  • Wheelbase // 1,285mm
  • Effective top tube // 647mm
  • BB height // 38mm BB drop
  • Reach // 500mm

Review Info

Brand: Specialized
Product: Stumpjumper 15 Pro
From: Specialized
Price: £7,500
Tested: by Benji for 2 days

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    munkyboy
    Free Member

    Proprietary shock, really expensive and locked into SRAM/ expensive derailleur /  likely unsupported in a few years derailleur.

    Not a chance I would touch it. Possibly in a few years when wireless is cheaper and Shimano provide competition. What a miss as otherwise it looks great!

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    TomZesty
    Full Member

    I agree, and I’ve had 3 Specialized full suss bikes in a row. Not for me, I don’t want wireless shifting any more than I want an E-bike. People should have the option. Plus seems very expensive compared to previous models.

    fazzini
    Full Member

    will Specialized (re)introduce a model to sit between the Epic EVO and the Stumpjumper 15 – a Camber perhaps?

    Specialized Chisel FS Evo coming to a bike launch near you soon…(or maybe not 😂)

    andylc
    Free Member

    Stupidly expensive!!

    LAT
    Full Member

    will Specialized (re)introduce a model to sit between the Epic EVO and the Stumpjumper 15 – a Camber perhaps?

    my first thought when I saw the price

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    matt_outandabout
    Full Member

    I’m not the target market, I couldn’t spend that much on a push bike.

    The shock doesn’t put me off – as Benji says, it’s standard sized and the frame isn’t bringing any kind of ‘locked’ to that shock.

    I’m less keen on the AXS. I would rather some plain old Deore….

    bikesandboots
    Full Member

    No routing for cable operated derailleurs!

    Kramer
    Free Member

    I don’t see that it adds much to my current Stumpjumper Evo, apart from less travel?

    Gribs
    Full Member

    Is the S-Works frame coming to the UK?

    Aidy
    Free Member

    One thing that is easily missed is that Specialized offer a lifetime, no-questions-asked bearing replacement policy. Which is nice.

    This is the first time I’ve heard of this, and Google doesn’t come up with anything about it. Are you sure you’re not thinking of Santa Cruz? https://www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-GB/warranty/claims

    fazzini
    Full Member

    This is the first time I’ve heard of this, and Google doesn’t come up with anything about it.

    Guy in Bikescene (Spesh store) told me the same thing at the weekend. I knew the frames were lifetime warranty, but he said bearings too. Wonder if that’s a new(ish) thing.

    noneoftheabove
    Free Member

    Another disposable carbon frame with limited cross-brand upgrade options? That should look nice in the landfill next to the unrepairable ebikes. It undoubtedly demonstrates some astonishing engineering but definitely doesn’t support a sustainable future. I am definitely not a target market for this so I’ll stick to my (significantly cheaper) alu frame and external routing for a bit longer.

    chakaping
    Full Member

    I don’t see that it adds much to my current Stumpjumper Evo, apart from less travel?

    They’ve got rid of the awful-looking asymmetrical frame :D

    But less travel can be better on an all-mountain bike. My latest steed is 145mm travel and I’m loving it.

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    Aidy
    Free Member

    Guy in Bikescene (Spesh store) told me the same thing at the weekend. I knew the frames were lifetime warranty, but he said bearings too. Wonder if that’s a new(ish) thing.

    Wording of the warranty explicitly excludes bearings as a wear and tear item.

    https://media.specialized.com/support/collateral/0000109731-warranty-uk-en.pdf

    roger_mellie
    Full Member

    They’ve got rid of the awful-looking asymmetrical frame 😀

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that. I liked the side-arm.

    georgesdad
    Full Member

    Personally I don’t see the point of having so many things to adjust/muck up. I have never, ever, read a bike review in any publication that said ‘This bike would be better shorter and steeper.’ I’ve been out on my bike earlier just down the old railway line and back up the canal. Should I have spent an hour beforehand altering the geometry to suit, only to have to slacken it out again next time I ride the steeps? I’ll stick with my Orange. It’s fast, it’s simple, it’s fun, it rides like a dream. I genuinely think we’ve hit peak bike now. Geometry and suspension are as good as they’re going to get. There’s only so much they can sell you so they’re focusing on e-bikes and MORE TECHNOLOGY.

    arrpee
    Free Member

    I don’t see that it adds much to my current Stumpjumper Evo, apart from less travel?

    I was glad to see this release for this very reason – it’s nice when the new version of your bike doesn’t immediately seem more desirable than the one you already have.

    Makes me wonder what direction they’ll go in with whatever replaces the Enduro. If it ends up some sort of super-enduro monster, does that leave a bigger gap in the range? That said, there was arguably a fair amount of overlap between the Evo and the Enduro, in terms of what could reasonably be ridden on them, albeit they get the job done a bit differently.

    Also, they can have my asymmetric side arm when they prise it from my cold, dead hand.

    devash
    Free Member

    They really nailed the new Epic / Epic Evo 8, but missed the mark with this one.

    I wonder if they will bring out a cheaper alu version with normal cable routing?

    arrpee
    Free Member

    I wonder if they will bring out a cheaper alu version with normal cable routing?

    That seems likely to me – seem to remember that there was a bit of a lag before the alloy version of the Evo came out?

    As an Evo owner, I shall be spending a lot of time hanging around trailheads, loudly and obnoxiously proclaiming that it was so good, Specialized had to nerf it to make the Enduro seem worthwhile.

    TomZesty
    Full Member

    On the launch video you can see an alloy one with what looks like normal routing. Don’t know why they don’t just launch them altogether.

    I’ve read a bit more about the carbon one today, and I definitely think they’ve missed the mark with this one – as others have said, a shame given the success of the previous model and corresponding Evo and the recent winners with the Epic and Chisel FS.

    r999
    Free Member

    Great review and accompanying pictures. I didn’t realize that the lower shock mounting had an offset capability. I looked up the manual and there is nothing mentioned about this feature. I’m assuming this came directly from Specialized during the test?

    chakaping
    Full Member

    “Makes me wonder what direction they’ll go in with whatever replaces the Enduro. If it ends up some sort of super-enduro monster, does that leave a bigger gap in the range?”

    It was already kind of a super-enduro monster, eh?

    My theory is that by dropping the travel of the SJ and merging two bikes there, they will also drop the travel of the Enduro to 160 or 165.

    They will want their enduro race team actually riding the Enduro next season IMO.

    (erm, where have the quote and other tabs gone? And why won’t that Cannondale video shut up FFS?)

    tjaard
    Full Member

    Funny, did exactly what @Benji mentioned with my current Stumpy Evo.

    In the S6 size, I run the rear in the long setting to get some more balance front : back.

    But, that lowers the BB even further, and thanks to the giant wheelbase, it was way too easy to smack pedals and chainrings all the time. (Even with shorter, 170mm cranks)
    So I run the mullet link from WRP with the 29” rear wheel. Thanks to the angle adjust, you can compensate for the steeper headangle if needed.

    tjaard
    Full Member

    @chakapingFull Member
    “Makes me wonder what direction they’ll go in with whatever replaces the Enduro. If it ends up some sort of super-enduro monster, does that leave a bigger gap in the range?”

    It was already kind of a super-enduro monster, eh?

    My theory is that by dropping the travel of the SJ and merging two bikes there, they will also drop the travel of the Enduro to 160 or 165.

    They will want their enduro race team actually riding the Enduro next season “

    I was thing the same thing: they shortened the travel of the Stumpy (EVO) so why would they then increase the Enduro in travel ? That would only create a bigger gap.

    Good point about Charlie riding the Evo in the Enduro WC , I hadn’t thought about that. Do the women also race the Evo? So maybe (slightly) shortening travel on the enduro would make sense.

    tjaard
    Full Member

    KramerFree Member
    I don’t see that it adds much to my current Stumpjumper Evo, apart from less travel?

    I think that’s a good thing. We have reached a point where new bikes are a slightly tweaked and updated version of the old one. Just like cars.

    So yes, it’s not massively better.

    But, one of the gripes I have with the Evo is that the seatpost insertion depth is short. So my 6’0”+ kid with long legs, can only run a 180mm Oneup, even with 165mm cranks. And I, at 6’5” , with long legs, had to down-shim my Oneup 240 to 230mm. Both of us have the collar miles above the seat tube.

    Then there is the thing about fitting more shocks, and hopefully not killing as many coil shocks.

    And, best of all for anyone on a S4 and up, or even on an S3, size: 20 mm more stack!

    Since I push mine towards light enduro use, I would have preferred if they kept it at 150/160 mm, but I can see why they went for 145/150mm, since the regular Stumpy is gone.
    They should have kept the fork at 160mm though: at 64 degrees, the vertical travel is very much less than total, so you need quite a bit more travel up front to match front and rear wheel travel.

    cookeaa
    Full Member

    It looks great!

    I don’t want one though cos it’s kinda expensive… when’s the cheaper Aluminium one due?

    tjaard
    Full Member

    Last time round, it took quite a while for them to release the alloy version, like 8 months or so if I remember correctly? But, for the Epic/Chisel, they came pretty close on each others heels.

    tjaard
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    I find the lack of a piggyback on the shock very strange. They obviously don’t mind adding some weight with more capable spec (Maven brakes in a trail bike), so why not the Piggyback?

    In another first look, Spesh claims the bike doesn’t need it, but that doesn’t make sense to me. Yes, the new shock has a better air spring. But that doesn’t change the fact that damper oil heats up, insulated by he air sleeve, as well as the normal space constraints for damper components.

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