- Stop or offer help, or ride on by?
An incedent today made me think, I always stop or ask if help is needed if I see a rider in trouble, rarely get asked for help but surely it’s the nice thing to do?Posted 4 years ago
Out on my own at QECP this afternoon, dropped into a section called Snakes and Ladders and my front tyre burped all it’s air out, high siding me over a berm. A rider had been waiting at the entrance to the trail, and he passed me as I was picking myself up, wondering what had just happened. No acknowledgment from him, not even eye contact.
Sat by side of trail, covered in mud and a bit of blood from a cut on my arm. Tried to reinflate tyre but had to admit defeat and fit a tube. While I had the front wheel out, struggling to clear the mud and get the tubeless valve out a group of 3 riders passed me, once again not even eye contact. I was able to sort the problem and continue with my ride, and indeed the only help they may have been able to offer would have been words of sympathy or encouragement but what if it had been worse, or I hadn’t been self sufficient?
The group of 3 had grumbled at me earlier too, when I overtook them as they walked their bikes up a climb. Guess riding it on a ss when they couldn’t with gears had pissed them off….
Am I just being a bit sensitive because I had a tumble and had to faff with a muddy bike, or were they a bit rude/selfish not checking if I was alright?fatoldmanSubscriber
What you describe is poor behaviour: at the very least all we riders should offer assistance or encouragement to those who are in trouble. The trouble is, the more people there are around, the less likely someone will stop. On the road when a cyclist is seen with a wheel off it is usual to ask “have you got everything you need?”, and give assistance when needed. Off rad I ride a 29er, in addition to my own spare tubes I carry a couple of 26″ so I can help more often.Posted 4 years agoricky1Member
I’ve had a few scrapes and moments of turmoil,even had 2 punctures once up Gisburn and had to push my bike back to the car park which was 5 miles away,every rider on the way back offered me a tube and asked iff I needed anything,yes some people are ignorant and trout was spot on in saying you got the 1% I’m afraid.Posted 4 years ago
Iff I’m honest the more people that don’t see me struggling the better and I never let anyone help but I always insist on helping others,hope your ok.polyMember
I’m generally an ask if you are OK person, but you were clearly conscious and not rolling around in agony. On that basis if you really needed help I am sure you might have managed to make it known. Riding a singlespeed implies some degree of biking knowledge as well so I’d expect you to manage to sort your blow out without my help.
If I did have a serious mechanical I would generally walk the bike back to a fire road / trailhead where it is practical and safe to work on the bike without getting in anyone’s way – and where people tend to congregate / stop for a chat and so tools / parts / expertise might be forthcoming.Posted 4 years agopingu66Member
Strava, if your on a KOM or PB you don’t stop.
In reality even if there were a group with one in difficulty I always ask if they have everything they need as I carry pretty much everything except a kitchen sink as I am paranoid about getting stranded miles away.
Be pretty p’d off if I were you but glad your OK. I would have sorted your tyre while you sorted yourself out mate.Posted 4 years agoMrNiceMember
I always slow enough to check people are OK. Last time I was out we helped some random bloke get his chain out from where it was jammed in the chain rings (**** off big allen key and violence was the answer). Only as he picked his bike up ready to ride off did one of his mates reappear.Posted 4 years ago
I might have asked if they had a multi tool with better pliers than mine to take the valve out, but as I said I was self sufficient repair wise. The bloke who passed me just after I had crashed though, I was kinda staggering back up the back side of the berm, i could have been properly damaged.Posted 4 years ago
I ride on my own knowing I have to get myself out of anything I get into, but I guess I always assumed others wold do what I do when I meet people who seem to be in trouble.
26″ wheel ss, not 29 I’m afraid. No shout of Strava either, more the noise of my lungs trying to get out of my body through my mouth…singletrackmindMember
I guess riders who push bikes around QE are not ever going to get a KOM or PB therefore stopping is of no disadvantage to them .Posted 4 years ago
Was it the berm on the 2nd right? Quickest section of S + L imo .
Yes they should have at least asked
I have stopped my car and fixed a road bike before so no reason not to , and QE will be a horrible slip slidey mess and not enjoyable in any way just now so stopping for abit of banter makes the ride better all roundpingu66Member
26″ wheel ss, not 29 I’m afraid
It was probably the beard and the fact that they thought if you had been on a 29er you would have just rolled through it so it was your own fault!!
Actually it is pretty grim especially the fact you were obviously not in the best shape ie just stopped fixing a puncture but covered in sh1t and bloodied. Don’t let things like this prejudice you though. I think 9 times out of 10 people don’t need help but it makes you feel good that at least you offer.Posted 4 years agocakefacesmallblockSubscriber
There’s no excuse for at least making sure you were ok or had kit to sort an issue.Posted 4 years ago
Just riding on is partly just bloody ignorant, frankly not cool and I doubt it would happen round our way.
How far up themselves does someone have to be, to behave like that ?
To be fair, the last time I had a problem there was when I lost a brake pad descending the Velocity switchbacks, in the dark. The trail building crew were on their way past in their van. They stopped and offered help & when I got back to the car park later they were still there and they checked again that I had sorted it.Posted 4 years ago
Was a bugger to meet the 2 sets of miserable sods in close succession though. Got blood all over my pump too, and that’s not a euphemism…
Oh, I’m from Yorkshire too, raised in Barnsley.shortcutSubscriber
I always stop and offer help. My offers of help have included inner tubes, co2 canisters, tyre boots, cleat bolts, magic links.
Doesn’t matter whether I am on the road or off it. Can’t get over people who just walk or ride on by. Yes – I am on the floor crying in agony – of course I am fine you turd. Where has human kindness gone?
I help people in the hope they will do the same to others and maybe learn an important lesson.Posted 4 years agoMoreCashThanDashSubscriber
Always slow down and check if I can help if I see someone having a problem. I’d be no practical use to anyone, but I offer.
Was walking home last week after another puncture debacle, most people asked if I needed a tube/patch, which cheered me up a bit. (Was easier to walk than faff with a thorn magnet of a tyre and risk another tube)Posted 4 years ago
After the singletrack parallel to the A3, called Hard Shoulder, you do a rooty climb then a fire track climb. At the top of the fire track you used to go straight over into a descent to the Velocity switchbacks, Snakes and Ladders is the loop that drops off to the right at the top of the climb. It drops and climbs a few times and brings you out about 50m further up the fire track.Posted 4 years ago
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