OP you have made a choice.

Be prepared to suffer the consequences without grizzling and whining.

Nine points?

Sounds like the problem will resolve itself soon anyway. I don’t envy her insurance premiums.

Where we live and how her work and our lifestyle is set up she just has to drive

So she’ll continue to drive even after licence is taken away the next time she’s caught committing an offence?

Or would she obey the law and you’d find you could adjust your lifestyle and her work a bit to avoid the need for her to regularly not be bothered enough avoid attempting to kill people with a car?

So she’ll continue to drive even after licence is taken away the next time she’s caught committing an offence?

I foresee a deployment of the “extreme hardship” clause as was being discussed on the previous page…
Courts are always more lenient on women drivers anyway, especially if there’s a couple of children in the equation. Add that to an “I need to drive” plea, it’ll just be another one of those tragic stories of how the poor cyclist didn’t stand a chance but the driver is still out on the roads in her Zafira…

Sounds like she needs a moped.

Won’t compromise her job or life style (unless she is a taxi driver)

But will make her think about driving defensively

I think the OP might be Jeremy Clarkson

*People who have had a different experience to you. I have had the misfortune to sit with several of these types of drivers. You haven’t, fine, that doesn’t make it crap.

Have to agree, nothing to do with different experiences, what you wrote showed a laughable lack of perspective. Sorry.

Hopefully she will acrue the 12points neccessary for a visit to the court in the near future.
This may be a wake up call to highlight the fact she isn’t a good driver and needs some help in that area.
I am thinking she is away with fairies and the driving part takes a back seat , whilst play dates , dinner menu, shopping, socialising, parental issues, beeping mobile ( it is in th glovebox right? ) etc all rotate around the front front part of her cognitive functions and the driving side gets roatated to the back.
A217 is a busy road , in a busy area . More reason to fully concentrate on the job in hand.

She does need help though. either in being allowed more sleep, home help with a cleaner , and/or driving lessons , and by that I dont mean the ones designed to get you through the driving test , proper driving lessons . I got a mate who was a trained level 2 police pursuit driver to help me after a crash ( rammed from behind ) which was insightfull.

The OP does sound trollish but I will take it at face value.

I am not sure that anyone in Surrey does need to drive. Most schools would have a relatvely small catchment area which would make wlking to/from school practical.

Lots of options for home delivery of food, mobile hairdressers etc. so quite a few journeys could be rendered unnecessary.

One option for the OP would be to borrow his wifes car and speed through some traffic cams to get her a few more points and a ban.

whilst play dates , dinner menu, shopping, socialising, parental issues

Cos women do the cooking, cleaning and looking after kids, right?

Anyway – respect to the OP for remaining calm as the internet assasinate’s his wife’s character.

Anyway – respect to the OP for remaining calm as the internet assasinate’s his wife’s character.

Something or someone is going to die. Might as well be someone character, as opposed to just someone.

Never was the offence of driving without due care and attention more appropriate.

Get her on an advanced driving course, please.

And also please ask her to keep a special eye out for cyclists.

Something or someone is going to die. Might as well be someone character, as opposed to just someone.

I totally agree. She’s a bad driver, accidents are not ‘just one of those things’ that happen, and people do die every day because of exactly this.

Ahh , Yes Moly.
I am childless and single and grew up in the 70’s hence my formative years were very old fashioned.
My mum looked after us whilst my dad worked or socialised with the 6 2 8 squadron after work,so was rarely seen
Still stand by what I have said though, but will include work, DIY , putting the correct bin out etc on that list.
and as a childless single I have to plan all the shopping , cleaning, ironing , play dates with Dezb etc but seem to be able to manage this without smashing up cars ona regular basis.

Anyway – respect to the OP for remaining calm as the internet assasinate’s his wife’s character.

Is this the same OP who cheerfully called his missus a narcissist? He’s joining in the fun with the rest of us.

As Cougar says, I expect the courts will start taking an interest soon if she’s on nine points.

I am not sure that anyone in Surrey does need to drive. Most schools would have a relatvely small catchment area which would make wlking to/from school practical.

That’s almost as stupid as the OP’s post! Everyone in Surrey can walk to school? Surrey is a pretty rural county and school catchments, particularly secondary, can be huge.

That doesn’t excuse the OP’s wife clearly being unable to drive in a safe manner, nor his totally lackadaisical approach to it. Fingers crossed that when it happens the only person she injures or kills is herself.

as a childless single I have to plan all the shopping , cleaning, ironing , play dates with Dezb etc but seem to be able to manage this without smashing up cars ona regular basis.

It’s a shitload easier when there aren’t kids, trust me.

This isn’t true, if you’ve got 20+ points it’s because most would have been accumulated in more or less one hit. If you get 12 points or more and claim extreme hardship you get a 12mnth ban not the 6mnths for subsequent offences. It was made quite clear to me by my solicitor and the court that extreme hardship couldn’t be claimed again untill all the points I had were spent.

The guy who’s just been jailed for 9 years for killing a poor 21 year old girl clearly had a better brief than you. He was on 12 accrued points from mobile phone offences and was allowed to carry on driving due to severe hardship. He was apparently watching a film at the time. ****!

So, to summarise, the good lady wife of the OP has had two accidents in three years.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/driver-who-hit-killed-cyclist-11849698

“The court heard how Christopher Gard had been convicted of using his mobile phone while driving six times before the crash that killed Lee Martin ”

In this case the magistrate who , in court , 6 weeks before the death of a cyclist , let a guy on 18 points , keep his licence as he pleaded hardship, keep driving . in my eyes that magistrate is almost as guilty as the builder who was driving.( i know i am biased )

Well, I am pleased to have started such a comment worthy thread.

Crazy-legs = thanks for the advice, might have to deploy one day soon!

Thanks for the support Mole Grips.

Martin, I’m fairness she would happily agree to the description of narcissist, which I think is one of the criteria for diagnosis. Thing is though, I bloody love the lass and 90% of the time she is amazing. It’s just she knows it!

Singletrackmind, you are almost certain on to a thing there.

ElShamilo, I’m afraid not – I drive a 1.2 litre Nissan!

I’m not trolling, or lackadaisical, but I’m essentially a Southpark Marxist – by which I mean that I like red meat, bad taste Frankie Boyle jokes and a bit of danger as well as Socialism and being a deputy head.

I’m just not very pious and can’t seem to muster any anger over the safety aspect.

Some of the advice seems to be ‘take the keys off of her’ but she’s an adult working woman with her own bank account, so it’s not like I’m going to stop her running a car, is it?

Lastly, to be honest, it is a necessity for us to have two cars: We live in Redhill, she works in Epsom, I work in Croydon. We’ve two kids underthe age of 4. Short of her givi g up work (undesirable) it’s two cars or bust.

In response, she has agreed to go on an advanced / defensive driving course and we now have separate insurance. So she knows she’s got to shape up.

Anyways, thanks for the feedback.

Cheers, peace out. Alex

she has agreed to go on an advanced / defensive driving course

That is excellent news, it will be interesting to hear how she got on.
Lots of bluster above but driver training sounds like a pragmatic and sensible approach.

Alex, given what you’ve said about her, if her advanced driving course is like one I did, the first question may cause some trouble if she doesn’t know the catch. It was “on a scale of 1 to 10, how good a driver are you?” Anyone who said 10 was off the course.

It was “on a scale of 1 to 10, how good a driver are you?” Anyone who said 10 was off the course.

Really. Did they refund the money they’d taken off them and be aware that they could end up being sued for costs incurred?

Lols surely the people who say 10 are exactly the ones who need the course!!!😂

OP can you do me a favour, and not let your Mrs drive anywhere west of her prescribed route, that way I’ll be safe on the roads 😁 cheers 👍

Lols surely the people who say 10 are exactly the ones who need the course!!!😂

The ones who think they are 10/10 will learn nothing, disrupt the course and hinder the rest trying to learn something.

If they think they are 10/10 why are they taking a course?

Cos women do the cooking, cleaning and looking after kids, right?

Some years back, not long after a new bypass was opened taking traffic away from the town centre bottleneck, with a 60 limit on it, a woman taking her kids to school turned around to tell the kids off because they were playing up, drifted across the road, into the front of a large truck. Neither were speeding, maximum speed of both was 30 mph, but she was killed outright. All because of a momentary lapse of attention because she was distracted.
This could just as easily be the OP’s wife, doing day-to-day things.

If they think they are 10/10 why are they taking a course?

The Health and Safety at Work Act now covers driving. That means employers must ensure the safety of their employees (and third parties) whilst driving on company business (not commuting to work).

Some companies exercise this responsibility by sending their employees on advanced driving courses – whether they need it or not.

I’m just not very pious and can’t seem to muster any anger over the safety aspect.

Try riding a bike to work day in and day out, with people like her on the road you will soon learn to ‘muster some anger over safety’. RLJers in cars, people speeding past you well above the limit in 30 zones. People who see you on the main road and just put their foot down to pull out of the side road anyway across your path. Pedestrians who step out into the road without looking. Drivers who tell you to get off the road and pay some road tax. Drivers who overtake only to stamp on the brakes and turn left, tuck into the pavement to ensure you can’t pass, sit in the cycle lane. Close passers who literally hate cyclists for no apparent reason.

Also, skip forward 6 months when she has actually killed someone in an RTA, you won’t look back on this thread and think, oh perhaps there was something in this.

Last week I cycled past a car on it’s roof after it had removed a traffic light at crossroads after the driver had a ‘Medical episode’, he’ll probably just replace it with a Zafira so he can run the kids to school though.

We live in Redhill, she works in Epsom, I work in Croydon

there’s a major train line that runs from Redhill to Croydon…

Why get the train when you can drive in a bat-shit-mental-way through the Surrey ghetto?

there’s a major train line that runs from Redhill to Croydon…

Perfect for “take your wife to work” day.

Damn it. I saw this pop back up and thought there was another wrecked car being reported.

My wife scraped my alloys as she went to the Stevie Wonder School of driving.

£200 alloy repair refurb and tracking for another £200.

Could have used that to buy some road wheels! 😡

I’m going hold back sex for a month to punish her.

I’m going hold back sex for a month to punish her.

Isn’t that just rewarding bad behaviour?