Smart Casual – Shirt, Jeans, Shoes

Agreed, Mr Clarkson looks a lot better than Mr Craig in the photo above.

This is due to the fact that Mr Clarkson obviously couldn’t care less about his clothes, which is a more attractive feature than any of your ‘proper’ brogues.

yes, i guess he’s an aspirational character.
plus Daniel cant even tie his shoelaces properly or fix a belt.

Leave the slobs to it.

Glad they couldn’t care less about how they dress.

The lack of caring says it all.

Obligatory smart casual sequence of events.

bikebouy – Member
Leave the slobs to it.

Glad they couldn’t care less about how they dress.

The lack of caring says it all.
Lack of caring about ‘the rules’ <> lack of caring about the way you look though…

Just go to Next with female and choose the least of offensive ot any items they suggest.

Shoes £50
Belt £20
Shirt £30
Jeans £30
Jacket £50

Job done go to your event then kill the clothes by wearing them to do diy bike fettling etc.

There are no rules. Just simple accepted guidelines.

But “who cares”?

The lack of caring says it all.

Go on then, enlighten us, what does it say?

If people are going to judge me on what I wear, I don’t think they will be the sort of person I will get on with.

There are no rules. Just simple accepted guidelines.

When do get taught these rules? Are they enforced by some up their own arses fashion police? What are the penalties for non compliance?

bikebouy – Member

Leave the slobs to it.

Glad they couldn’t care less about how they dress.

The lack of caring says it all.

It certainly does, it says:

We’re confident enough that we don’t have to doll ourselves up to feel comfortable in company.

We’ve got better things to spend our time on.

We’re not part of the inoffensive middle class, middle aged fashion clique.

We don’t need to conform.

We’ve got more depth than your average puddle.

Clothes, they keep your cock out of view, but they’re no substitute for a personality.

You’ve said it all right there.

😆

Go on then, enlighten us, what does it say?

you cant be bothered to dress well or you simply just don’t care which is neither bettor or worse than caring about your appearance. one mans laziness is anothers freedom of expression.
i think that just about covers it? ❓

What’s with this not being allowed to wear certain clothes once you’re over forty bollocks that repeatedly comes up on here? It’s just plain weird. Dress for comfort and arse to anything else.

I think some people secretly read fashion articles in the Daily Mail, which insists that anyone over 30 should stop listening to that horrid ‘popular music’ and listen to jazz, and start dressing like a grown-up, which means smart slacks, boring black shoes, shirts from M&S, and comfy cardigans.
I went to a traction engine rally today, lots of old vehicles, tractor pullers, and big boys toys.
They were doing a 50% concession for over-60’s, which I asked for.
I got looked at in a very sceptical manner, so I had to dig out my drivers licence. I was wearing camouflage-pattern cargo shorts, Meindle Desert Fox ex-army boots, a 1995 Babes in Toyland tour tee shirt, Oakley HalfJackets and a straw western-style hat with a red bandana around it.
So not dressing in a style becoming someone of my years, at least according to the Mail and some on here, but then I’ve always dressed to suit myself, I really don’t give a toss about anyone else’s opinion.
When it’s necessary I can scrub up reasonably well, but otherwise screw ’em.

I wonder what ‘dress well’ means?

I remember back in the 80s/early 90s when everybody used to dress differently, when you had your punks/ goths/ skinheads/ great unwashed/ ski jacket crew/ skaters etc etc. It was so much better. Everybody looks the same now.

I guess ‘dress well’ means conform to society’s expectations, don’t think for yourself and be sure not to ‘offend people’ by looking any different. How sad.

Conformity is a big part of it I think. I went to a party about a few years years ago, all the ‘lads’ turned up wearing skin tight beige chinos which sort of gripped the ankle and white and blue striped t-shirts, the sort a sailor might wear – I joked how they must have all jumped from the same ship, I don’t think they got the joke.

I guess ‘dress well’ means conform to society’s expectations, don’t think for yourself and be sure not to ‘offend people’ by looking any different. How sad.

personally i see it as the exact opposite.
Thinking/caring about dressing well offends the majority on here (a huge win)
most people you see at work/out/gatherings dress all the same in the same ‘uniform’ be it blue and white sportswear or GAP/M&S so its you who gave it a bit of thought who doesn’t look like part of the herd. (a win)
dressing well is hardly a sad thing, it’s just sometimes part of your day along with lots of other nice things, it’s hardly a chore.

i still feel scruffy when i visit places like Milan, the Italians win it with their style.

I think knowing the difference between when to slouch around in jeans and trainers and when to make an effort for someone’s wedding, a work function or suchlike is just part of growing up. I do giggle at MrSmith’s “rules of engagement” on these threads, but really, all he’s saying is that there are times when you should make an effort. For some people, making that effort is just shit they do more then others. Like not wearing shorts in Paris, no matter what the weather. 🙂

I dress bettor than MrSmith

I dress bettor than MrSmith

I’m not sure that’s possible. 😀

Depends what you mean by bettor though really.

I think you should stop going to Milan MrSmith.

I like Milan 😥
i know loads of people who dress better than me, they work on Savile Row.

DD has it though, i think there is a tipping point around 35 where you are either resigned to not giving a toss, are happy with a hoody and vans or you realise you dont want to dress like a teen anymore and have the desire to sometimes make the effort.
its not always about what other people think, its how you feel about yourself or how you want to be seen by others, some view that as a bad thing but its often how the world works.

i recently started shooting for a mayfair/bond st brand making/selling bespoke goods, if i turned up for that first face to face meeting wearing trainers and a hoody i don’t think it’s going to help me to be taken seriously and i feel more comfortable wearing something smart and comfortable (but not a suit). by doing so its not about reluctant conformity as i actually want to look like i have made an effort, that should reflect on how much effort i take with my work too.
i have never had to work in a suit environment or had a forced dress code so my attitude is slightly different to those who have. i look forward to wearing a suit and tie, i know most dont.

Nah, so long as you have a “personality” seems to cover a lot of the comments on here.

Thank God for personalities I say.

Who’d be without one, perhaps a well dressed chap.

😆

No wearing shorts in Paris? Have you actually been there? It’s rough as ****. Wearing shorts is one of life’s simple pleasures. Apart from work, I spend pretty much all my time between April and September in shorts, T-shirt and no socks or shoes. Not because I don’t care about my appearance, but because it’s really comfy and I don’t care what random strangers think of my appearance.

Edit – that picture above shows, IMO, the greatest crime against clothing. Those bloody faux priest shirts with the different coloured collar. It just screams **** and makes you look like you’re wearing a bib 😆

Tie clip?

FFS…

also a style crime of tie matching pocket square. thats what people do who never wear them except for that one wedding where a visit to Burtons is called for along with all the other males dressed by their mums/wives/girlfriends. they sell them in Burtons so thats what they wear.

I suppose I’d like to wear some nicer clothes one day, if only to avoid letting my wife down – she wears unusual clothes not like the masses but always looks beautiful.

Problem is I’ve been riding bikes for 30 years and even when I’ve lost a few lbs my thighs and calves are massive. Working in a manual job for a while has given me huge shoulders and upper arms. So none of the nice clothes listed above ever fit me. I can’t fit in most standard cut shirts, never mind any of the skinny fit ones. Trousers/jeans are the same.

At the moment I cannot fit into ANY of the jeans on sale at the moment, I’ve been wearing the same 2 pairs for about 3 years which don’t fit well anyway but at least I can fit into them and walk/crouch in them!! I’ve tried on loads and most I can’t even get over my thighs.

Shirts – always really tight across the shoulders and around the upper arms. Even if I can do them up I feel if I move an inch they will rip – if I can move.

So I wear my 1990’s Gap carpenters trousers (thank goodness I bought 4 pairs), odd shirts I can get in TKmaxx, shorts and hooded tops.

Find me a pair of nice trousers/jeans that fit the rules and aren’t eye-wateringly expensive and I’ll give them a go!!

At all costs tuck the shirt in. Also ensure that the buttons line up with your fly, not dragged to one side. Trews shouldn’t wrinkle around the knees. Thats too long. Black jeans often look cheap unless dead black and new and well accessorised.

I was looking at my wrinkled knees and wondered if simply turning up the bottom of the jeans would fix this and still look acceptable?

I was looking at my wrinkled knees and wondered if simply turning up the bottom of the jeans would fix this and still look acceptable?

Depends on the Denim according to some. 🙂

Seldevege, then yes, turn up away. If it’s common or garden denim, then no, get them turned up properly. 🙂 🙂

I’d be asking yourself if you have a personality before any alterations to clothing 😆

bikebouy – Member

I’d be asking yourself if you have a personality before any alterations to clothing

I don’t, I wear expensive watches too. 😆

Though I do have several Seiko/G shocks.

Never, ever, tuck a shirt in when worn outside the office.

Never, ever, tuck a shirt in when worn outside the office.

Why not?

Because someone said the opposite earlier. And it looks really, really stupid.

Don’t even get me started on ‘popped’ collars.

I popped into a nice bar last night for a pint wearing my polo shirt tucked into my Rohan Bags. I was served promptly, not shown the door and no-one appeared to notice my many fashion faux-pas. In fact I was left with the distinct impression no-one cared and I was being ignored.

In fact I was left with the distinct impression no-one cared and I was being ignored.

If that’s what you were aiming to achieve then I’d say you were successful! 😀

You do realise that you’ve become ‘that person’? You know….. the one that everyone is a bit scared of speaking too? In case you start talking about our lizard overlords, and the end of the world?

I’m not knocking it. I’ve spent years cultivating this ‘look’ so that everyone leaves me alone, and I can read David Icke’s latest book in the pub, in peace 😀

I’m not knocking it. I’ve spent years cultivating this ‘look’ so that everyone leaves me alone, and I can read David Icke’s latest book in the pub, in peace

He actually lives about 400m as the crow flies from here. Occasionally I see him around town. Really must have a pint with him one day.

Its a fine line between being presentable and trying too hard.

Personally designer jeans, fancy brogues, blue suits etc puts you in the estate agent, white Audi catagory. Not an image I would want to cultivate.