Small, secure padlock. Indoor use.

What about those false electrical socket safe things?

Or others have said, a proper safe? Bolt it to a wall or solid floor.

its really that bad! House keys, window keys, bike lock keys, e-bike battery keys, bank cards and soooooo much faff!

Whereas I have house key, car key and phone. Done.

Indeed I’ve just been issued with a bank card that will read my thumbprint as part of a pilot at work, it’s all very clever, but I’m literally never going to use it, I haven’t used a plastic card since Covid.

How about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oY4ZCJu54&t=527s ? (Bit sweary)

I figured that something compact with an included hasp would make sense on the foreign trips.

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Unless I’m missing something obvious here, you don’t need a padlock, you need professional help.

FFS – it’s been a long time since I’ve laughed out loud here but holy crap……!!

Thanks OP [if you’re real and not some new comedy AI bot]

Whereas I have house key, car key and phone. Done.

Seriously though….. this ^

Umm, unless  I have missed something, how is the red box of keys and sex toys going to remain secured to something in a hotel room/ vehicle / gig venue  to stop someone walking off with it? Or does it go in a hotel safe?

OP off for a swim later
[beard checks out]

I had been thinking about one of these:

https://amzn.eu/d/0d3kVDEU

tgtbt?

still, moon on a string…

A safe box like something out of the movies, looks like one of those flat safe deposit boxes that you used to find in banks…biometric entry, airtagged, room for passport , cash, jewellery, phone, bank cards, hastily scribbled passwords, etc.

just to take on hols when there’s no proper safe available.

What’s to stop someone just taking the box?

What’s to stop someone just taking the box?

The sheer weight of the keys, cards, phones and padlock attached it seems.

“Whet’s to stop someone taking the box?”

airtag?

another consideration for ‘box 101’, is the device that you use for 2-factor identification. You’ll surely take that along to your air-n-b?

as my myasthenia gravis progresses, it will feel liberating to rationalise all the excess baggage.

for example, I’m offloading a bunch of Stephen king novels, as i can find them at a reasonable price to download. And with the weakness of my eyes, the kindle makes much more sense.

And my mobile phone is starting to feel like a house brick.

Even at my pneumonia vaccination yesterday, I couldn’t unscrew the lid of my juice bottle. I ended up binning it, as I figured that if I’m struggling in that respect, I’ll probably struggle to swallow anything fizzy.

im positive that they’ll discover a cure within the decade, but until then:

just to take on hols when there’s no proper safe available.

Call me wild and crazy but, have you considered not carting all that shit about with you?

I had been thinking about one of these:

To do what?

For all the spare house keys and window keys just leave them in a drawer at home.  If anyone breaks in and gets them, well they are already in the house so don’t need them anyway.

Passport and credit cards can be replaced easily enough.

Ebike keys, just put on your key ring if you are that worried.

Honestly, no one carries all that stuff around with them.

Surely, you’d like somewhere to stash the phone whilst you’re on holiday?

When you’re on holiday, it’ll take a while to replace the passport?

Personally, I’d fly out with at least 200 euros, just to tide over any potential IT snafus.

id like somewhere to stash it, plus any meds.

A pocket?

You know what a loose safe or box screams out?

STEAL ME!

An Airtag isn’t going to do shit. Will be easy to find the mangled remains though.

You know what a loose safe or box screams out?

Still, I’d like to leave the phone and passport in the accommodation whilst I’m swimming.

I bought the smartwatch so that I could leave the phone somewhere secure.

that said, I can anticipate scenarios where you’d want to take the keys with you in hols, and keep them secure, but maybe not on your person whilst swimming…

not just the nuclear launch codes, but if for example you owned a veterinary surgery, the locum would have your spare set of keys and you’d keep the original set with you, until you hit the beach.

but where to stash them? (rhetorical q)

Still, I’d like to leave the phone in the accommodation whilst I’m swimming.

Just put it in a drawer or under your pillow.

Still, I’d like to leave the phone and passport in the accommodation whilst I’m swimming.

Hotels often have a safe in every room. They’re not very secure (see Lock Picking Lawyer) but they are more secure than leaving in a drawer.

Personally I’ve never bothered – I’ve just left my passport in my room in a drawer and never had a problem, but my youngest son *did* have his passport stolen (travelling alone, and he was staying in a very *very* cheap hotel). He got a replacement from the Consulate in Alicante in about 48 hours.

but if for example you owned a veterinary surgery, the locum would have your spare set of keys and you’d keep the original set with you, until you hit the beach.

I would leave them at home. Exactly why would I be carrying keys for somewhere a couple of hundred/thousand miles away?

If I did have that vets surgery then if I am on hols I would have the keys hidden somewhere at home possibly in a safe.

For the phone/passport. If I didnt feel comfortable leaving them for an hour or two unattended in my room with minimal effort put into hiding them then I would be looking to stay somewhere else.

This thread is very confusing.

Is it some sort of wind up?

So if the hinges are Palestine and the bank cards are Gaza…

No, no clue here either.

In a hypothetical ‘veterinary surgery’ situation, I’d take the keys to the ends of the earth.

The streets of Loudon, awash with ketamine, and the cops suspect an inside job?

but there’s plenty of instances where someone gets lumbered with the keys to the premises.

Tbe title made it very clear “small, secure padlock indoor use”.

the actual use of the padlock is kind of irrelevant.  I could as easily be using it to chain my bikes together whilst I swan around abroad.

so, if you secured your bikes indoors with a £20 padlock, would you feel secure whilst abroad?

maybe a topic on home security, in general?

theres devices to stream footage of your home, direct to your mobile device.

but that’s assuming there’s no power or Wi-Fi outage?

the actual use of the padlock is kind of irrelevant.

Well, it kind of isn’t, because you’ve come up with a solution without describing the problem.  This thread is “what hammer for knocking in screws?”  Almost three pages in and we haven’t progressed beyond you wanting to take a metal toolbox containing 15 kilos of keys swimming with you.

if you secured your bikes indoors with a £20 padlock, would you feel secure whilst abroad?

Yes?  The front door is locked and I have home insurance.

maybe a topic on home security, in general?

theres devices to stream footage of your home, direct to your mobile device.

What’s that going to achieve when you’re abroad?  Are you going to jump on the next flight and get home just twelve short hours after the burglars have left?

Small, cheap, secure padlocks don’t exist.  But if they did, they wouldn’t help you here.

If I owned a veterinary surgery and needed to hide the keys for a locum….
….up the cows bum?
I mean, no one else is a) looking there or b) likely to go there.

I put all my important keys under the doormat. I don’t think anyone would think to look there.

Just back from Lidls with one of their keysafes.

I’ll just stash it “in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying beware of the leopard ’.

(hitchhikers guide to the galaxy).

though, I’ll still need something to keep my meds and euros safe , whilst on my hols…

What risk do you need to mitigate against for your meds whilst on holiday?

Diabetes isn’t painful like dying, but it’s a wretched ‘circling the drain’ feeling, nonetheless. I think they call it the ‘bonk’.

actually, it does nip a bit around the chest, as those muscles fatigue. Like being thoroughly wedged in a ravine, up to my armpits.

Taking a cash box swimming with you, less common than you might think.

That’s what the police said when I tried to explain to them what had happened to the first MrsJ. 

Does everyone spend their lives in fear of being robbed?

The vast majority of homes are very easy to break into. Just smash a window.

When I leave the house I have my keys, phone and my wallet, which contains a few bank cards and driving licence.

Why on earth would anyone take their spare house keys with them? For what purpose?

Regarding passports, I have photos of them on google drive. If someone nicked when on holiday, it’s not the end of the World to get it sorted, pain in the arse but not difficult. They are not that valuable on the black market.

Who wants to nick your meds? Are your meds opiates?

This is all quite bizarre, is it  a simulation?

For keys at least, I found a genius way of keeping them safe whilst working abroad. Simply leave them on the airport transport bus  at Heathrow and collect them from lost property on return.

Of course if unintentional, it does mean you spend the whole week ringing people and searching bloody everywhere.

I was on holiday a few weeks ago. I left my passport, cash and cards in my cabin bag in the wardrobe, and my phone on the bedside table. I went to the beach with a small backpack with a book, snorkel, towel, bottle of water and a €20 note and relaxed.  At no point did I worry that someone in Spain might steal the keys for the windows in my house back in the UK.

Why on earth would anyone take their spare house keys with them? For what purpose?

So that if you lose them, you can conveniently lose them all at once.

Does everyone spend their lives in fear of being robbed?

I did for a while.  I was burgled, twice, and the second one really messed with my head.  I got over it in the end but it took years.

greatbeardedone – 2x T1D in this household and neither have worried that their insulin will get nicked.  They do worry that a bag containing it will get lost/stolen and so split between bags so they have enough to last whilst they work out a solution.  In hot places storing it so it doesn’t get cooked is probably more important than getting nicked.  Don’t put your fast acting glucose in a difficult to access place – when you are properly hypo working a lock or remembering a combination is not what you want; it is also not what anyone else wants.  Having had locks seize or combination codes be inadvertently be changed I wouldn’t be putting my critical meds in there either.  Although no small lock is invincible to even the sort of ordinarly tools you’d normally find inside the box you had on the OP.  There’s really no such thing as an unpickable lock, but for most people brute force will get you in quicker.  Locks are to keep good people honest.   Something portable with a lock like a tool box or cash box, might be more attractive to the opportunist than your wash bag or the bottom of your rucksack with the smell socks…

oldnpastit Full Member
I put all my important keys under the doormat. I don’t think anyone would think to look there

That’s just silly – the strongbox must make a huge lump under the mat