Slobbergob/wet farts – cpap issues

Been a cpap (resmed 10)user since the start of summer and it’s all been more or less fine once I got rid of the supplied F10 fullface hard mask and got a F40 full face soft one.

I was using a humidifier tank as my nose gets sore and dry without it, but then ditched that as I started getting rainout/condensation/gurgling in the tube as the weather cooled, but also started getting slobbergob and wet farts from the side of the mask as the nights have cooled even more.

It’s got to the stage where it’s waking me up several times a night to wipe around the lower edge of the mask and my mouth, after which it seals nicely for an hour or two until it gets sloppy and annoying again.

I’m pretty it’s not drooling, as my mouth isn’t open or drying out, I think  it’s just condensation in the mask with it being colder on a night (no issue in the tube atm). Pressure isn’t too high either, I have it capped at 11 which is enough to keep my nose open so my mouth isn’t forced open, and it only blows the farts out when it gets slobbery around the lower mouth seal

I’m going to try lining the inside of the lower mask with some tissue tonight to see if that helps by absorbing it. There doesn’t appear to be any actual mask liners for the F40 , possibly as the pillow nose section would make it pretty difficult to do?

Any ideas??

I would try to get some advice from the folk who supplied it.

I know when I have sued ventilation in hospitals when had a condensate trap in the pipework and i do wonder if the drier air with not using the humidifier could be making the issue worse by the contrast between dry air going in and moist air coming out.?

Can’t help beyond that tho

You can adjust the level of humidification on Resmed Airsense 10, via the My Options menu, have you looked at whether that makes a difference with your machine?

Yeh I would if I thought they’d be any help, past experience suggests not when I’ve asked about other things.

The tube is fine in terms of condensation and the machine is lower than my head, it’s just the inside of the mask itself around my mouth gets all sloppy and then the seal fails with a comedy fart.

I’m going to put the humidifier back in tonight on a low setting (need to as my nose is getting dry and sore inside) and I’ll try a section of tissue laid in the channel at the bottom of the mask and see how it goes.

It’s annoying waking up to turn it off, unclip the bottom of the mask, wipe my mouth and mask (yuck) refit and turn back on.

Yeh I can do all the adjustments via the power of YouTube.

Having it down at 2 solved the rainout in the tube, but I was still getting the issue in the mask. I’ve had no humidifier for a little while now but the mask seems to be getting worse with the cold nights, no heating on at night.

If it was an issue with the tube I’d get a heated tube or tube cosy, but it’s just the mask.

Could you put the heating on but at a lower setting than during the day.

Hmmm…. Our heating isn’t very controllable, it’s shit,  as is the insulation (rented old house). I’d have to turn every other radiator down on an evening and back on on a morning. Plus cost and baby robins. We never have the heating on that length of time even in the day.

Some more googling makes me wonder if i do just need to get a heated tube. Maybe it’s only getting cold enough to condensate by the time it’s in my mask?

But then with the cold room it’s maybe enough that my expelled warm moist air is just condensating on the mask itself, in which case cold room or head under the covers is the only option? At least I’ll not suffocate lol!

I have the heated tube on mine (was standard) and the only time i have condensation issues is when the humidity really ramps up in the house. Then i turn the unit down to 1 or off (still leave water in the reservoir so get *some* moisture in the air).

I also only use the nose mask, rather than full face. So even if i do drool, it doesn’t flood the mask. And (apparently) easier to maintain a seal with the shorter seal length. Have you been offered the nose mask? Seems to be the usual here, try the nose first then move to face if it doesn’t work.

Sneezing is hilarious though.

FWIW my bedroom regularly gets down to 15/16 degrees at night, don’t know how that compares with yours? (coldest it’s been is 13, but only a couple of times since i’ve had the CPAP)

Not actually sure what temp it gets down to. I’ll see if I can find a thermometer. Mrs Ls response when I mentioned heating on over night was ‘well, that’s not happening!’ lol!

They gave me the full face as I have a deviated septum and nasal/sinus issues, but I can generally nose breathe (and use a spray) unless it’s particularly bad, especially now that I’ve got my pressures dialled in.

My wife has the heated tube, I suspect that’s what you need.

Decided to buy the heated tube,  £33 so hopefully the solution. I don’t know why it’s not supplied with it along with the humidifier tank ( another £45)  as they seem to be necessary, but then…. NHS eh?

Tissue in the bottom of mask last night was no use, vibrating and tickling within seconds. Fleece sweatshirt over the head was pretty good, at least I didn’t wake up until 4.30am due to some slobberiness. I definitely slept better too.

Let’s hope the heated tube is the answer.