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Skip hired. Skip filled with rubble, about level. Skip company called to collect skip 7 days ago. Skip still outside. Last night skip overloaded with stinking waste from fast food joint. Skip co. now saying skip is over-filled and won't collect. 'Jo' on council web chat says it's not their problem (I thought the waste had been fly-tipped?)

I REALLY don't want to have to put the fetid stinking bags of rotting meat and flies in my car... but accept I may have to. Nor do I want to hire another skip. I like the idea of the rubbish falling into the street (I am sure this IS a council problem), but don't want to damage relationship with neighbours. Any other ideas?


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:12 pm
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Return the bags of waste to the local fast food place? About 9pm friday night?


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:13 pm
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Ooh I like that. But if only I could pinpoint which of the 129034823428 places it is...


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:16 pm
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Sounds like it's a case for Wee Shoe Bomber man


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:22 pm
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The usual practice here is to put the fly tipping stuff in a white van, drive to your local bridleway and dump it out the back

Failing that what does your contract with the skip people say?

Or try posting somewhere you might get a real lawyer

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Id be pretty livid if this had happened to me
Things going through my head to formulate the next steps:

Have you paid the skip guys?
Is the skip on the road or your land?
If its in the road did they apply for the correct licence and paperwork and is it marked up properly?

Good luck


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:30 pm
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Feel for you i really do, it is technically fly tipped but as its private and unsecured councils won't touch. It's costs enough to tidy up after the scum who do this in the country side without dealing with private land / matters unfortunately.

I would suggest a massive piece of tarp in the back of your car load the bags fold/tie up get to the dump as quick as possible and unload the whole lot.

I would also suggest camping out gun in hand ready for the next lot of waste until said skip has been removed.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:33 pm
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Combustible?


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:36 pm
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Skip co. now saying skip is over-filled and won't collect.

It wouldn't have been over-filled if they'd collected it when they were supposed to, ergo it's their problem IMHO. I'd be inclined to say "fine, it can stay where it is then", I expect they'll be wanting their skip back at some point.

Is it on your private land? Charge them storage.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:39 pm
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Is it on your private land?

Nope, on the street, with licence. Lights have stopped working, no cone supplied.

Combustible

I like that one.

I would suggest a massive piece of tarp in the back of your car load the bags fold/tie up get to the dump as quick as possible and unload the whole lot.

I think this may be the quickest way of solving the problem.

Have you paid the skip guys?

Like a mug. Yes. LSS Waste in Leeds - Not recommended (2 days late to deliver, 1 week and counting to collect)


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:42 pm
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Nope, on the street, with licence. Lights have stopped working, no cone supplied.

Sounds dangerous to me, ring the police.

Presumably now a) the licence has expired and b) your contract with the skip hire company has ended. Failing to see how it's anything other than their problem now.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:42 pm
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Can't you give the fast food waste to the poor? They might be able to scavenge a meal out of it, then they have to dispose of the resulting rubbish, or consume the all of the waste, depending on how poor they actually are.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:44 pm
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[quote=loddrik said]Can't you give the fast food waste to the poor? They might be able to scavenge a meal out of it, then they have to dispose of the resulting rubbish, or consume the all of the waste, depending on how poor they actually are.

fetid stinking bags of rotting meat and flies

Really ?

And who are "the poor" BTW ?


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:50 pm
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Y'know, the poor? "They haven't got two pennies to rub together but that's because they're poor"


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 1:53 pm
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Can't you give the fast food waste to the poor?

It's true - Harvest Festival is coming up - get it into the display at your local church. 🙂


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 2:02 pm
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/\ By some of the packaging that's not been torn apart by foxes, it's Halal, which I guess gives me some more options here? /\


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 2:03 pm
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How does that give you more options? 😕


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 2:55 pm
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Phone the council, they will fine the skip company for the permit having expired.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 3:02 pm
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I'd be wary of doing that as sometimes it is the householders responsibility to get a permit so it could backfire. Its a pain, but I'd just double bag it and take it to the dump.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 3:06 pm
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it is the householders responsibility to get a permit

The householder did get a permit for the length of time the skip was in his hire. It's no longer in his hire, it belongs to the company. They've abandoned it outside his house.

IMO.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 3:13 pm
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Move stinking mass to one half of the skip, remove a load of rubble, put stinking mass in place of rubble, cover with the removed rubble, simples.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 6:59 pm
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Yep last post is the best option. You'll soon compress it down with all the rubble.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 7:09 pm
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Problem with skips is lots of neighbours think they are communal and fill them or empty them on the road,let the skip company sort it out.Its their skip


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 7:14 pm
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Strange, when my extension was being built the builder brimmed the skip and piled it about 4 feet high above the skip sides using doors and pieces of wood to effectively extend the side of the skip to fit more stuff in. He got rid of about 4 skip fulls like that over the course of the build. My neighbours have just started getting a new kitchen installed, and in a similar fashion their builder is also using the same trick to significantly increase the capacity of the skip. Its a bit odd that your skip company is being so fussy about the fill level of the skip. Can't you challenge them about it? Maybe the guy they sent round to pick it up was just being awkward and a different driver might be fine with it as it is.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 7:58 pm
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The skip company has a rate for a specific size of skip. If you make the skip whatever size suits using doors etc to increase the capacity of the skip then the charging system is useless and profitless, hence the skip company refusing to lift the skip. 'Fill level' isn't the guy that painted it!!!

Around here the average skip price is £160, landfill gas and tipping charges are around £100. In order to avoid landfill charges waste segregation and recycling are necessary this is quite labour intensive and costly so no matter how you look at it margins are tight, hence the 'we won't lift an overloaded skip' stance.

Its usually the hirers responsibility to ensure that the skip is correctly loaded and it wouldn't be good practice for a waste company to allow one its vehicles to carry an overloaded container on the highway as VOSA and/or the police would charge the driver for carrying an insecure load at the very least.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 8:57 pm
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Order a skip to be delivered to the fast food joint, then pop round & chuck in the offending food wrappers.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 10:13 pm
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i agree with above - permit has expired, tell the council, lights aren't working, tell the council.

If they put more lights on - remove the lights and tell the council.


 
Posted : 29/09/2014 10:46 pm
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Phone the skip company, tell them again that its been fly tipped due to late pick up, permit expired etc, council aware, but as a goodwill gesture you will pay £50 towards an extra skip required for removal of fly tip but take no responsibility for any further accumulation of rubbish.

I wouldn't try and put the meat below the rubble as if they are expecting clean hardcore they could claim its now mixed waste and charge extra.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 5:42 am
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As someone who can set up roadworks, I think its a criminal offence to interfere with lights/signs, so perhaps don't move the additional lights!


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 5:43 am
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[i]Phone the skip company, tell them again that its been fly tipped due to late pick up, permit expired etc, council aware, but as a goodwill gesture you will pay £50 towards an extra skip required for removal of fly tip but take no responsibility for any further accumulation of rubbish.[/i]

By far the most sensible comment; irrelevant of anything you want rid of it and by just leaving it there YOU will face additional costs/hassle at some point.

It's 5h1tty, but unfortunately 5h1t happens.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:17 am
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I had this a few years ago. Waited for a skip on a Monday and it turned up at 5pm. It was in a back lane.
Turned up the following day and there was a bed, wardrobe and a set of drawers in it.
Removed them and phoned the council and told them and that they were on the roadside waiting to be collected.
Turned up that day to remove.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 7:21 am
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Our council will collect certain items if you phone them. We've done this in the past for things that were too big to get in the car. I think they will do 2 collections a year free.

not that it helps but when we had building work done we let the builders hire the skip so policing it was their problem. There was still all sorts of crap going in there and the odd person rumaging around or knocking on the door asking about scrap metal. Surely there is a market for skips with locking tops.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 11:56 am
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Surely there is a market for skips with locking tops.

The one outside the shop below our flat is, presumably for that very reason. The owner does segregate the metal out though and leave it for the [s]pikeys[/s] [i]good honest scrap metal collecting folk in order to stop them ****ing with the skip[/i].


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 12:01 pm
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Surely there is a market for skips with locking tops.

You can already get them.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 12:18 pm
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If its anything like this, you'll be lucky to get it lifted.

If you've negotiated a better price for just rubble, then you'll either have to move the waste yourself or pay extra for it to go. If not, then pull your rubble out and cover it with it. Get it level in the morning and tell them they must collect in the afternoon.

The problem is the Big Yellow Skip People only like rubble/building waste and their recycling station is only really set up for that, not for food and crap so they'll prefer you to shift it.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 12:51 pm
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Thanks everyone. Love that pic skiprat, believe that's Leeds too.... update, redistributed things a bit (around the skip), put excess in black bin (collection tomorrow), different driver came back at 6.30 this am chucked a tarp over everything, loaded up and toddled off. Skip still a good 2 ft above level - guess there's some subjectivity involved here!


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 1:03 pm
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I like skiprat's pic - it's the 'student at a one visit salad bar' approach writ large.


 
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Think your right about it being Leeds by the name.

Glad you're sorted now Will. Drivers are funny buggers, one of ours once came back with a 16yd skip full of tarmac. He thought it was a bit heavy when he drove back, what he didn't see was the wheels on his lifting legs were on the floor when he went round corners...it had about 15 tonne in it so well over weight.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 1:13 pm
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2cv in a skip funniest thing I've seen on tv,can't remember the sitcom though.


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 1:53 pm
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I didn't believe it so I googled;

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Posted : 30/09/2014 1:56 pm
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This is my best 'skip' related photo, a Skoda parked in the skip bay at a Police Station next door to one of our buidings 🙂

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Posted : 30/09/2014 2:42 pm
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Spooky you're going to incurr the wrath of the Skoda massive now 😀


 
Posted : 30/09/2014 2:49 pm
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Yep but the best was yet to come when he opened the door. Comedy gold.


 
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