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  • Sir! Keir! Starmer!
  • crazyjenkins01
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    Might just be me being dim but…

    “World leading” Test Track and Trace system by 1st June blah blah blah….

    If the App that was developed/being developed isnt in use with the population yet, how exactly are we doing the Track and Trace part of this? Forgive me if I’m wrong but asking “who have you been close to in the last 2 weeks?” cannot be a reliable method to say we’ve even got a Track and Trace system, let alone a World Leading system.

    Or am I just missing something?

    fadda
    Full Member

    If you’re missing it, then so am I. It seems what limited capability we’ve fudged into place isn’t being used, and it’s a manual process exactly as you’ve described above, I think.

    Almost completely useless, and utterly indicative of what we have in our government.

    One of the journalists reporting on PMQs did make the point that we’re not hearing much on what the Labour government would do differently – I suspect that’s deliberate, so that we’re not seeing too much of anything but cooperation and gentle holding to account, but that will need to come at some point in the not-too-distant future, I think…

    kelvin
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    Human led processes are more important than the mobile app (according to studies in South Korea etc, where mobile apps were identified as a useful addition rather than central to the success of TTI there) but the idea that our ‘manual’ system was properly up and running, and world class, on 1st June, is just pure bullshit. Most people know that.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Of course, you can page back through other threads to see why we don’t have the mobile app to use… and even if we did why it wouldn’t be as useful as it could be… many of us pointed out the mistakes made by the government with the app from the very start… why the wrong approach was taken, and the wrong people used to deliver it… and, of course, the NHS branding was used as cover for all that, again.

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    The YouGuv one looks like an outlier, so far.

    That maybe due to the way it is funded and run! 😉

    cloudnine
    Free Member

    Apparently Johnson was using an earpiece in PMQ’s…

    frankconway
    Free Member

    cloudnine – that’s an interesting assertion; what’s your source?

    cloudnine
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    cheburashka
    Free Member

    Could be an earpiece, or could be empty space. But it’s a good yarn to keep the public’s mind tuned to think who’s manipulating the marionette.

    avdave2
    Full Member

    Perhaps this virus messes with your hearing as well as your eyesight.

    mrmonkfinger
    Free Member

    Biffle boffle
    protected the NHS
    baffle buffle
    fluffle floffle
    rates down
    boofle falafel

    no figures, no details, no much nothing else except jingo slogan type answers

    keep it up SKS

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    I said to my wife that I thought he was wearing an earpiece a week ago during the briefing with Vallance and Whitty where he cut them off form answering questions about Cummings.
    He had that ridiculous hair carefully arranged so that you couldn’t see in his ears and he seemed to frequently drift off as though he wasn’t listening to what was happening in the room.

    Klunk
    Free Member
    thegreatape
    Free Member

    This weeks PMQ’s was basically Johnson either losing his temper or begging Starmer to stop being mean to him. He’s pathetic.

    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Would be great to hijack his bluetooth and see if you can prompt him to resign during PMQs.

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    are you sure ?

    Sure that I said it? …..Absolutely.
    Sure that I thought it? ….Positive.
    Sure that he was wearing an earpiece?….. Not even slightly.

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    Michael Spicer in the room next door has been rumbled?

    Klunk
    Free Member

    the “are you sure” entirely rhetorical and directed at spectator claim of fake news and was in no way panther related.

    perchypanther
    Free Member

    Yeah, I got that and agree it most likely is fake news but i’m also pretty sure that Boris Johnson being fed lines through an earpiece would be the least unbelievable thing about this entire shit show.

    For example, it’s less believable than me wildly speculating about it and then, by sheer coincidence, an ambiguous photo appearing to show exactly that appearing a week later.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    seems like he need to clean his ears properly

    kimbers
    Full Member

    If he had someone feeding him lines in an Earpiece, he’d have some better comebacks

    Today was just,react angrily and say some nonsensical crap, which tbf has worked for him for done time now

    dannyh
    Free Member

    Didn’t Reagan once mumble “why doesn’t the old bastard say something?” because he was using an earpiece and the staff didn’t have the answer. He sat mute for a few seconds and a staffer who was in the ‘Ops Room’ got exasperated and said the words(?)

    That may be a story I have been told, can’t remember….

    Riksbar
    Full Member

    spectator claim fake news and the pm can obviously think on his feet are you sure ? 😀

    Where did Mary Wakefield and husband say they sat out their brush with Covid19 in the Spectator article again?

    binners
    Full Member

    I was just thinking that. If I wanted an unbiased opinion of Joris Bohnsons abilities I doubt I’d be asking the Spectator.

    More to the point: if Dom was the one on the other end of the earpiece then he did a rubbish job. Again.

    How did he get this reputation as a master of the dark arts again? Other than thinking up catchy 3 word slogans, he’s a bit shit at this, isn’t he?

    He’s no Malcolm Tucker

    fingerbang
    Free Member

    Would be great to hijack his bluetooth and see if you can prompt him to resign during PMQs.

    …and I’m Boris Johnson. Go **** yourself House of Commons

    yourguitarhero
    Free Member

    If he was on an earpiece, whoever was on the other end was absolutely rubbish. Better off without it.

    crazy-legs
    Full Member

    This weeks PMQ’s was basically Johnson either losing his temper or begging Starmer to stop being mean to him. He’s pathetic.

    Keir Starmer seems to have inherited his mother’s aptitude for owning donkeys.*

    *Sadly not mine, just seen it on Twitter.

    ctk
    Full Member

    Barry Gardiner surely trying to stitch SKS up? Why else would he be such a cock?

    frankconway
    Free Member

    Comment in Guardian that johnson is complaining about Starmer opposing him when that’s what the opposition do.
    ctk – as for Gardiner, see my post in thread about protests; he’s more than just a cock – stupid, irresponsible, risk to himself and others.

    BillMC
    Full Member

    enlightening people with (mostly) alliterative patterns of three: Brexit Means Brexit, Get Brexit Done, Take Back Control, Get a Grip, Clunk and Click, Shower of

    tjagain
    Full Member

    I think Starmer is acting in a long term way. As well as the ritual skewering at PMQs he is building a list of lies and evasions to use against Johnson at future PMQs and also building evidence for the inevitable inquiry

    binners
    Full Member

    Barry Gardiner surely trying to stitch SKS up? Why else would he be such a cock?

    Are you unfamiliar with his whole ‘career’? The bloke is an absolute bell end!

    greentricky
    Free Member

    I see he his getting a monthly slot on LBC for a phone in now

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Still a big gap between the public view of the leader and the party…

    YouGuv

    Very worrying.

    ransos
    Free Member

    I haven’t seen anything from the usual suspects for a while on Starmer’s superb performances at PMQs…

    somafunk
    Full Member

    Starmers doing perfectly well in my opinion, but you could substitute a lump of dogshit on a stick and it would also outclass johnson at PM questions.

    binners
    Full Member

    I haven’t seen anything from the usual suspects for a while on Starmer’s superb performances at PMQs

    It doesn’t really need stating though, does it? It’s a given.

    Joris was his usual bumbling, incoherent self, this week refusing to answer any questions at all and asking them instead. Because he had no answers. Which hardly makes him look prime ministerial, does it?

    You’d be forgiven for thinking the roles had been reversed. Because that’s exactly what it looked like. As Starmer pointed out

    Would you be happier if he grew a beard, dressed like a geography teacher from 1981, then started doing shouty ten-second soundbites to put on Twitter, before going on a rally with some members of hamas?

    dazh
    Full Member

    Would you be happier if he grew a beard, dressed like a geography teacher from 1981, then started doing shouty ten-second soundbites to put on Twitter, before going on a rally with some members of hamas?

    Christ man, move on, everyone else has! Jezza is enjoying his well-earned retirement from the limelight and is no doubt enjoying it. I know you need a bogeyman to fuel the rants but can we please stop now?

    A quick point on Starmer’s PMQs performances, it was a novel having De Pfeffel forensically taken apart by a barrister, but that’s worn off a bit now and no one is paying much attention. I couldn’t care less to be honest cos PMQs is a pointless ritual, even despite Starmer’s best efforts to turn it into a court drama, but it does mean he’s going to need to find ways to cut through. He’s not really doing that right now and is becoming very easy to ignore.

    ransos
    Free Member

    It doesn’t really need stating though, does it? It’s a given

    Even the Guardian has given up on that particular line.

    binners
    Full Member

    Any insightful critical analysis to add yourself, comrade? So we may all benefit from your political wisdom?

    So we don’t have to rely on those bastards in the MSM (you strike me as someone who uses that ridiculous term a lot)

    Maybe you could retweet something from The Canary?

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