[Closed] Sick as a dog so, show me you Bivi / Bikepacking / Adventure racing gear.....

Good man ... numbers are looking very healthy but I'll endevour to spread everyone out

Thanks for all your kind words. I'll post a pic of the little angel soon

Regarding handlebar harness systems, you'll be pleased to hear that we're developing a harness to go with our frame bags. Minimal interference with the bike and maximum stability are two key design issues we wanted to address. A prototype was deployed into darkest mid-Wales for rigorous testing earlier this month, and reports on the performance are good so far.

Beth

Late at usual but hey ho. I have just read all 26 pages in one go and I'm dizzy with info and inspiration. The one question that seems to have not been mentioned is do you wear one lot of riding kit and just put up with the fact its going to be damp and maybe smelly the next day or do you dry it out (how?) or do you take a change of kit for each day ?

I have one of the Scandal prototypes from years ago lined up as my multidayer and I already have quite a bit of light weight outdoor kit from my walking trips. I reckon I could be up and running in a couple of weeks and I'm going to see if any my normal riding pals are up for WRT.

One lot of kit, last 3 day'er I did I got home and my 4 year old daughter told me she wouldn't give me a cuddle and told me to get out of the house as I was very smelly.

Depends on the weather, if it's wet i'll take a lightweight set of dry evening kit then wet kit back on in the morning.
If it's dry i'll probably use one set of kit.

I plan to do the same as flatfish and take my a change for the evening as I detest sleeping in damp clothes, plus it makes for a lot more pleasant trip all around

So the question is what lightweight clothes are recommended??

HH Lifa L/S base-layer and Lifa long-johns and a PHD down vest for me which will then double up as sleeping wear rather than a silk bag-liner. Plastic bags to wear over dry evening socks to stop wet shoes just making them wet straight away.

Long johns are no more embrassing than cycling tights!

I've got some Regatta stuff for evening / sleeping duties (when I remember). It's a micro fleece top and long bottoms, very warm, packs small and weighs not much ... also much cheapness. Go Outdoors possibly worth a try for some, they come packaged as a pair.

pb2 is you fancy the WRT you'll need to be sharpish, ie within the next 48 hours. Email me if you want in. stuart@forestfreeride.co.uk

HHHmm, Im going for these clothes so far:-

1 pair of Gore cycle short
2 jerseys
Lightweight cycle jacket
Base layer (sleeping)
Seal socks
Fluffy gay looking socks (sleeping)
Running leggings (sleeping)
Berghaus jacket (outer, for if its wet eve)
Fleece hat
Gloves

Im sure I wont need half this stuff as Stu's already booked a Super sunny 3 days stretch..

gay looking socks? I'm intrigued as to how a sock can look gay?! Dose it have embroidery one one man kissing another man?

Set of Lifa for the nights, normal cycling kit for the day, plus a microfleece top for extra warmth on/off bike and spare pair of socks.

Couldn't sleep in cycling bib shorts/longs - an overnight chammy is not a pleasant sight/smell

Has anybody used Esbit kit? I'm interested in [url= http://www.lovingoutdoors.co.uk/esbit-985ml-cookset-spirit-solid-fuel.html ]this.[/url]

Right with you now,

So one set of clothes for the bike and one set for sleeping should get you through at least 3 days without a wash

So one set for riding and one set for sleeping

For riding the bike:
I reckon on boggo lycra cycling shorts
Some water proof breathable shorts on top unless it's 0% chance of rain in which case some humvees etc.
Base layer
Jersey
Gloves

For off the bike Clothes.(Camp,.emergency)
Waterproof.Jacket......Rab.Drillium.
Insulation.............Patagonia.Down.Sweater.
Hat....................North.Face.Hat
Gloves.(stopped).......Rab.Powerstretch.Glove..
Thermals...............Helly.Hansen.Lifa.Top.
.......................and.Leggings
Spare Socks.
2x.large.food.bags....to keep night socks dry

I think developing a tramp like appearance and smell is part of bikepacking ... I have spent many years in training

gay looking socks

I wanted some sort of fleece sock/warm ones so I tasked the wife with the job and she came back with pink fluffy ones....

Diawi, not tried one but have looked before. If you fancy the idea of solid fuel / meths then it doesn't look a bad buy. The brass meths burner won't be the lightest thing in the world though.

How much do gay looking socks weight then? If they're fluffy then they might come up light on the scales. I might get the old crochet kit out later and do myself a pair of MYOG ones

I wanted some sort of fleece sock/warm ones so I tasked the wife with the job and she came back with pink fluffy ones.

Ha! I'm imagining aerobics style socks now.

Perhaps we can all start to wear 80's leg warmers and ponce around the forests and mountains singing the theme to Fame

Perhaps we can all start to wear 80's leg warmers and ponce around the forests and mountains singing the theme to Fame

What you want to do in your spare time is fine by me but don't get us all involved

We could have a retro early 90's throw back to when everthing was luminous I am sure I have some of that gear somewhere

Your name's on 'The List' so you're already involved

Your name's on 'The List' so you're already involved

ok I'm game the hunt is on for lightweight lumo gear then

pink camo gear ought to do, now where did I see that???

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for starters

tons here

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/pink+camouflage+gifts

I think it should be mandatory for everyone to have something 80’s with them or on.. I'm going to an 80’s style ‘Globe Hypercolour’ T shirt that changes colour when you sweat… Oh well I guess that’s just going to stay the one sweaty colour then…!

Back on Page 25:

Very nice job Ian, it'll be interesting to see what effect it has on boil times. If it works well I anticipate a world foil shortage

In between changing nappies, I finished off my Clone with some holes punched around the edge. In the end, I've put about one third of the holes that are shown on the template, with a single row of 21 holes around the top rim, and 19 on a double row on the bottom, but only partially around the base which allows me to direct it or not towards the wind.

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/5574809611/ ]Completed Clone with holes[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/15512491@N08/ ]ianbarrington[/url], on Flickr

So, to the boil test. To keep the test method in line with my previous [url= http://ianbarrington.com/2011/01/09/stove-test-whitebox-vs-vargo-triad/ ]stove test[/url], I boiled 450ml of water in 8m 7s, once the stove is fully primed, which is 4m 21s faster than with a standard windshield.

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/5575395150/ ]Boil test[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/15512491@N08/ ]ianbarrington[/url], on Flickr

With the significant reduction in boil time, it's definitely worth the effort to make one.

ponce around the forests and mountains singing the theme to Fame

Real world performance test, using the above setup: cup of tea made outside in 8 mins 54s total time in quite windy conditions too.

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/15512491@N08/5577107064/ ]Outside boil test, with lid[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/15512491@N08/ ]ianbarrington[/url], on Flickr

Very pleased with that

Told you they were good Don't burn your decking though

Also good to see you making good use of your paternity time.

I boarded the loft out during mine

Stu....As its April tomorrow, does that mean I get to spend all day enjoying WRT Coordinates your about to email out???
OR
Have I got another day spent doing boring paperwork wishing I was out in the Hills?

@Bigface ... you misunderstand, today is the last day to enter but GR and map details aren't sent out until the end of April, the 28th to be exact. Sorry about that but hey ho back to your paperwork

@Ian, how robust do you think it'll be, get a year out of it do you think?

YOUR JOKIN......NNOOOooooo Gutted thought for some reason it was tomorrow, Going to have to buy myself something now to cheer me up

Something lightweight i hope?

Yeah need a cooking pot...Alpkit?

Alpkits as good as any but i recommended this to Valleydaddy who thinks it's the dogs doodah's,

GSI Halulite Minimalist
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Tibetan titanium pans are about the lightest you can get. I use a combo of a small 550ml pan and a 450ml mug for extra versatility without incurring much extra weight.

Stu, I think the Clone would reasonably hard wearing. It withstood being blown across the decking earlier without loosing much shape. It is most prone during transit, so if you can roll it and store it in a pan it should be fine.

Bigface, evernew ti stuff is very, very nice. It'll pretty much last longer than any of us will and it's not that expensive all things considered.

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/page100.asp

Ian what size of gap is there between the top of your stove and base of your pot when everything's in place?

If your looking at Evernew get it bought sharpish as stocks are low and the factory/staff were affected by the Tsunami in Japan a few weeks back so stock won't be replenished for some time.

These look cool, well cheap anyone used one?

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/product527.asp?PageID=100

Bigface, I've not tried one but have been tempted ... reviews seem a little mixed with some testers saying the things split along the folds.

By the way the WRT start list for 2011 is now on the blog

http://welshridething.blogspot.com/

76 unsuspecting victims have been lured into my devilish trap this year

Now that is ultralight!

Back to Big-face, as a vessel only (ie not for cooking too) 60g isn't 'that' light. Just use a disposable cup from a Klix machine at 5g.

Ian what size of gap is there between the top of your stove and base of your pot when everything's in place?

Is it me or is 8+ mins to boil a pint of water very very slow? I was thinking about one of these stoves but that has put me off totally.

What's the rush? ... you're there all night!

Is it me or is 8+ mins to boil a pint of water very very slow?

My MYOG one a few pages above ^^^ boils 400ml of water in about 4 1/2 minutes with one Gelert solid fuel tablet or a [url= http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/SuperCat/index.html ]supercat[/url] meths burner. However, Anthony's [b](Edit: Not Anthony's but Ian's) [/b]wins when it comes to craftsmanship & aesthetics

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Slugwash, you must mean Ian's, my MYOG I've pictured is far from being a winner where craftmanship and aesthetics are concerned!

Sorry! I did mean to double check it before posting but got distracted. Post two above ^^^ now contains an Edit:

Is it me or is 8+ mins to boil a pint of water very very slow?

As Stu and others say, there's no hurry really. I can get the stove lit and a pan on while I do other stuff and it sits there quietly boiling my water with little hassle. Also, it doesn't weigh much. I just happened to weigh my cooking kit, which comprises of a Vargo Tirad, Tibetan 550 pan, 450 Ti mug, Caldera Clone wind shield and a pot warmer comes to 209g before fuel.

Given the light weight, I'm happy to endure 8 mins to boil up for a brew

Ian's wins when it comes to craftsmanship & aesthetics