Rugby world cup

TandemJeremy – Member

He dropped with his feet higher than his head – dangerous tackle- read the rules as posted above. Certain penalty – another day another ref could have been only a yellow but its not outrageous to be a straight red.

I’ll listen to the people who know what they’re talking about thanks.

The key term in that memo is “With no regard for the players safety”, Warberton clearly had this regard as he let go before the tackle becam speared. It was unfortunate that he was off balance to ensure the player was grounded securley, clearly a Yellow.

I’ll say it again …France were cr4p -and will get hammered next weekend

read that twitter post

https://twitter.com/#!/RugbyRefscom/status/125135994323353600/photo/1/large

Sorry TJ, but you’re wrong

99 times out of 100 I’d agree with anyone saying this. However, this is not one of them…

Read the memo in the twitter link up there. The rules are unequivocally clear, actually.

agree with above ref Jones, he shit himself, he did not want the drop kick, u could see phillips staring at him! Jones hang up your boots, thanks for everthing but time to go. gatlands got it right the younguns will rise and rise. ref the tackle defo a card but yellow. anyway what’s done is done!

The key term in that memo is “With no regard for the players safety”, Warberton clearly had this regard as he let go before the tackle became speared. It was unfortunate that he was off balance to ensure the player was grounded securley, clearly a Yellow.

Gutted for Wales. They should have taken the opportunity for a drop goal near the end.

They played superbly considering the daft ref.

How can a ref called Alain Rolland who has a French father keep being given key France matches to referee? That’s like getting a ref called Sean Kelly to ref Ireland or Gordon Campbell a Scottish match.

Jamie Roberts talking sense now.

The tackler has a responsibility to ensure the player lands safely – whatever Warburton did, the player stood up and walked away, so he did land safely…

Very mature interview from Jamie Roberts, not rising to the bait about the ref.

On the bright side, the welsh will forever be able to claim that they were robbed of the WC which I guess is better than the reality of being a losing finalist 😉

Allez les Bleus!

whatever Warburton did, the player stood up and walked away, so he did land safely…

I was driving down the high street at 100mph the other day, but I didn’t kill anyone, so I must have done it safely 🙄

Zokes,

If you had regard for everyones safety then yes you did!

Well whatever the opinion on the card I think Wales were the better side, it was the missed pens and conversion that cost us. France didn’t score a single point in open play. They will get smashed by whoever wins tomorrow.

If nothing else, it sets up the possibility of letting NZ hump France off the park next week – I reckon there’s a fair chance we’ll see France being exposed really badly.

unless Allain Rolland is reffing that game as well?

It’s all over now, Wales were unlucky but they missed 8 points of kicks so can’t really pin it all on a bad tackle/bad decision.

Bugger.

Interesting interview with Dausetoir – kind of a just happy to get to the final attitude, rather than we’ll go and win it now. Not much talent, a lot of heart, he said!

It was the South Africa all over again really…

The odds were against Wales…
Yet you always felt Wales should and would win…
But the Welsh kicking was sub par and they didn’t take the opportunities for points…
To end up losing by a single point

The red card was super harsh but not “wrong” under a subjective interpretation of the law. To be fair, if the French had lost through the Leigh Halfpenny kick then they would have rightly been unhappy given how Charteris held on to the ball on the floor two or three times. These may not be directly comparable ref decisions but Wales still were given their chances

Now lets smash the Southern Hemisphere for 3rd place and show the world what could and should have been!!!

Now lets smash the Southern Hemisphere for 3rd place and show the world what could and should have been!!!

Now that’s talking sense.

What, in the Twitter link is conclusive that it should have been a red?
“The p`layer is lifted then forced or ‘speared’ into the ground. A red card should be issued for this type of tackle.
The tackling player released, so he wasn’t forced or ‘speared’ into the ground.
“The lifted player is dropped to the ground from a height with no regard to the player’s safety. A red card should be issued for this type of tackle.”
Open to interpretation, what does ‘a height’ mean? Who decides the level of regard shown? The ref decided it was a red. End.

They’ll destroy the Meateaters!

+1 smash the Aussies!

You guys have forgotten the choke factor…. You might get the ABs yet!

So what do we think would make a better final?

Aus vs. Fra would be my pick.

I don’t think France have any sort of a chance against NZ

It would be mightly nice for the Welsh to go on and humiliate NZ with a win but this may just be wishful thinking 😀

P.S. There have been several tackle’s like Sam’s this RWC and none have got red to the best of my knowledge. There was a period a year or so ago when feet above the head was an automatic red in Southern Hemisphere competitions but common sense seems to have to over lately and the automatic red ruling was relaxed to only being applied if there was real intent to drop a guy on his head. The law itself didn’t change at all though (after the BOD incident that is).

wonder what the citing comissioner will say, if they dont ban him for a time it will be a tacit admission the ref got it wrong

No, the AB’s have sorted it with the ref’s so we can smash the Aussies!

as I’ve said all along, any of the other three teams in the semis should smash my Froggy compatriots. Thing with them though is that from time to time they can simply rip any team apart. especially the ABs at WCs, it seems.

so, a narrow, undeserved win today sets them up perfectly.

Though chances are they’ll be hammered. never mind, it’s just a game 😉

On this occasion I don’t agree that Jones bottled it.

That series of rucks was only just inside the French half. He would have had to take the drop goal from within his own half – very difficult and low chance of success. Given how well Wales were keeping possession through the game, to keep going at them and try and force a penalty was the more logical option. A place kick from the French ten metre line, from Halfpenny, would be far more likely to go over than a drop goal from past halfway. Ok, they didn’t get the penalty, but I don’t think Jones was close enough for a drop goal.

I agree about the 1/2p missed penalty. There was no ruck, Charteris was on the ground, having release the ball and then played it again. Should have been a penalty the other way – and on another day that sort of offence earns the player a yellow card.

The red card was harsh, but not outrageous. Other games it might have got a yellow. However just because it was the WC Semi-Final does not mean that the laws should be changed. A dangerous tackle should and must be punished regardless of what is the match and when it happened.

Well thats the end of a great adventure, very proud of being Welsh and not ashamed to say I have a tear in my eye.

I thought France were really poor in a cagey game even Dausetoir said they didnt play good rugby in his interview.

I thought the refs decision to send off Warburton was really poor but it lets the “pay attention to me” usual suspects talk utter bollox

Want the All Blacks to win now so will support them.

but Il don’t think Jones was close enough for a drop goal.

he was in the sequence where he finally took the ball into contact and knocked it on. He was never in the right position.

France tried to blow Wales away after half time and failed, they then seemed to tire.

That series of rucks was only just inside the French half. He would have had to take the drop goal from within his own half – very difficult and low chance of success. Given how well Wales were keeping possession through the game, to keep going at them and try and force a penalty was the more logical option. A place kick from the French ten metre line, from Halfpenny, would be far more likely to go over than a drop goal from past halfway. Ok, they didn’t get the penalty, but I don’t think Jones was close enough for a drop goal.

The bit where he took the pass stood in the pocket, hesitated, then lumbered into the french forwards and dropped the ball was within the 22

+1 pigface, Blackness to take the home win now

The bit where he took the pass stood in the pocket, hesitated, then lumbered into the french forwards and dropped the ball was within the 22

thats the bit I was talking about, he never went into the pocket though.

I agree about the 1/2p missed penalty. There was no ruck, Charteris was on the ground, having release the ball and then played it again. Should have been a penalty the other way – and on another day that sort of offence earns the player a yellow card.

yeah that was a shocker from the ref.

me too, All Blacks all the way now

not even a pen, **** refs 😆

Bravo AA but TJ will argue black is white.