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  • inigomontoya
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    Zokes take the chip off and get real

    duckman
    Full Member

    Really harsh,that WAS a yellow,despite anything Alfie might say.But a red? No clucking way

    DenDennis
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    VERY HARSH sending off! well done ref *slow claps*

    Margin-Walker
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    Test book …..what like BOD in Lions v NZ

    Bolleaux -wrong decision

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    oh well, it was good while it lasted 😥

    toadfish
    Free Member

    are wales seen as a threat to nz if they make the final hence red card?

    DenDennis
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    what are the odds on the ref seeing that again at half time and feeling he needs to even up in 2nd half? watch this space!

    Shandy
    Free Member

    Joke decision.

    Pigface
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    WTF great way to ruin a World Cup FFS what was he thinking?

    brakes
    Free Member

    the ref is half french…

    zokes
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    Zokes take the chip off and get real

    Admittedly from wiki as I’m trying to watch the match, but:

    The IRB has also said that in Rugby Union a spear tackle should be a straight red card.

    No chips to get off, rules is rules etc. Funny how everyone’s complaining now the boot’s on the other foot

    duckman
    Full Member

    Put your head back up your own arse Zokes,learn the rules before you spout off with your nobody likes the master race pish. Why is it that we are not talking about an English spear tackle? Oh aye,despite ITV’s support you are not there. Very refreshing to be watching a game without updates on England.

    Dump tackle-not deliberate= yellow.Deliberate= Red.
    I won’t talk about spear tackles,because that wasn’t a spear tackle.

    oldgrump08
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    Excuse my ignorance but how was it not a spear tackle?

    ditch_jockey
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    FFS – that’s a ludicrous decision. Half the world’s been waiting all week for this game and the ref’s ruined it as a contest after 20mins.

    brakes
    Free Member

    the law:

    Lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player’s feet are still off the ground such that the player’s head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play.

    wrecker
    Free Member

    Ooh look at her!

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Clear spear tackle. certain yellow and yo are allways at risk of a red.

    ’tis a shame for the neutral as it might spoil the game but its not that out of order as a decision

    inigomontoya
    Free Member

    Not driven into the ground

    DezB
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    Don’t worry, with defence like that Wales can still do it. WILL do it!
    Hook really needs to start kicking the ball in to touch now though, instead of giving France possession!

    Markie
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    How is it a ludicrous decision given that it was a spear tackle? Or is the spear tackle part in doubt? Can’t blame the ref for ‘ruining the contest’ if he’s applying the laws of the game correctly, blame the guy who broke the rules.

    zokes
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    FFS – that’s a ludicrous decision tackle. Half the world’s been waiting all week for this game and the ref’s captain’s ruined it as a contest after 20mins.

    FIFY

    Margin-Walker
    Free Member

    wales are playing amazing

    come on hook

    Stuey01
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    The welsh commentator said it was a really strong perfect tackle, talk about one eyed commentary.
    He turned Clerc upside down and dropped him on his head, really dangerous. It’s a minimum yellow, can easily see it being justified as a red.

    Uphill battle for the welsh now. Especially with the scrum starting to creak. Hope they can still do it!

    sputnik
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    Wales can still do this.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    right one of the front row has to break and take it to uncontested scrums

    anagallis_arvensis
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    It’s a minimum yellow, can easily see it being justified as a red.

    sadly true, I think it was a yellow, but red is harsh.

    DezB
    Free Member

    Not driven into the ground

    back of the neck hit the ground then forearm in the face iirc!
    Get over it, Wales will still win

    Lifer
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    That’s a red spear tackle.

    donsimon
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    The welsh commentator said it was a really strong perfect tackle, talk about one eyed commentary.

    😆
    It’s done, it has happened and history can not be changed. The story is all about how Wales react and move forward and their character, and that seems about right at the moment. Even with a man down we seem to be holding our own…

    zokes
    Free Member

    The welsh commentator said it was a really strong perfect tackle, talk about one eyed commentary.

    The Welsh Phil Vickery…

    Pigface
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    Gatland Edwards Howley and McB have got to give the mother of all team talks at half time.

    Houns
    Full Member

    Zokes was right

    *wishes both teams could lose*

    England would have been 10 points clear by now

    😉 😛

    TandemJeremy
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    inigomontoya – Member

    Not driven into the ground

    You don’t have to – lift his legs above his head you have a responsibility to put him down safely. Dropping him on his head is not putting him down safely

    duckman
    Full Member

    Old grump; spear tackle is just that,not attempt to use arms in tackle. Used to Nonu’s speciality,run hard into somebody’s chest with your shoulder.
    A dump tackle has been under scrutiny since BoD in NZ. Up to then it was covered by dangerous play. 09/10 different interpretations of what is a dump and a spear, a dump CAN be accidental, a player trying to reach over to pass out of the tackle can ride up. Hence yellow/red distinction. The distinction is made in how the player is put down, driven= red, no arguement. dropped= yellow.

    Lifer
    Free Member

    Just a penalty for this one

    Markie
    Free Member

    Wales responding fantastically so far, utter commitment.

    DezB
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    That’s a red spear tackle.

    So was Warburton’s.. See where he’s sitting?

    DezB
    Free Member

    Blimey, this half has flashed by!

    donsimon
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    You don’t have to – lift his legs above his head you have a responsibility to put him down safely. Dropping him on his head is not putting him down safely

    I think he did it a safely as he could in the circumstances.

    toadfish
    Free Member

    have read what people are saying about spear tackles

    he hit him in middle legs went up (were not lifted)

    no use of arms in tackle (both were around player)

    i agree him did not put him down gently but he did not land on head only

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