Roits in Manchester?

Have we seen the video of the officers being assaulted and what leads to it?

I’m guessing that must exist?

I say this without judgement, but it’s doubtful that it will surface or if it does not get much traction if it provides a contrary picture/narrative to the one we currently have. I’m sure if it has more wrongdoing from the cops it’ll surface for sure.

Something may be seen if the police release the bodycam and/or CCTV footage. Which I’d encourage in time for transparency once investigations and sanctions have concluded. But there’s a good track record with that sort of thing, an opportunity for the new Home Secretary to give some firm direction maybe?

Cyst bit is weird too, aren’t they slow growing? Could it be that his behaviour was being influenced by this cyst affecting his brain?

Cyst could mean a lot of things, could be an injury caused by the blows to the head though I thought they’d have said was a lesion? , but quite often they can be benign and people dont know they are there until they have a scan for whatever reason. Also possible it could be affecting his behaviour but unlikely, they’ll know from whatever region it’s in whether it’s likely to be the case.

My friend who’s a former senior copper in GMP says however much the lid may have deserved it, the copper will have known they’d no justification for it and that he’s going to be fired.

I think it will, or elements will – purely speculative, but I get the sense that something substantial DID kick off and I guess that’ll be made clear, which is only right and proper. What I suspect it won’t do is justify the actions in this video, I think matey has lashed out in the wrong direction.

Being a cop must be shit. Kick someone in the head, you’re a monster. Let them grab your gun and shoot about a bit, you’re incompetent. I wasn’t there so won’t pass any judgement on what they did.

Being a cop must be shit. Kick someone in the head, you’re a monster. Let them grab your gun and shoot about a bit, you’re incompetent. I wasn’t there so won’t pass any judgement on what they did.

I’d agree with that, but in this instance, if you watch the video you can see the officer has deployed his taser, and the guy on the floor has gone rigid with both legs and arms as he’s getting a kick to the head, there may be an explanation, but it’ll have to be a bloody good one to get the officer out of this one.

That looks soooo bad, wtf are those cops doing, it looks like amatuer hour.

Being a cop must be shit. Kick someone in the head, you’re a monster. Let them grab your gun and shoot about a bit, you’re incompetent. I wasn’t there so won’t pass any judgement on what they did.

With no due respect, you kinda did just pass some kind of judgement…. You’re assuming the guy was grabbing for the gun. There’s no evidence of that.

The only evidence we have is that some guy, who was obviously not in a position to defend himself, let alone grab at or attack someone got a face full of toe cap.

I watched it again for clairty, in better resolution and slow motion.

For accuracy, he kicked, then stamped. So two strikes to the head of a prone subject, who moments before the strike turned his head from looking away from the officer to lifting it up.

Arms and legs still prone and straight with no sudden movements, until after the strikes and the cop leans on his arm, he appears to move at least his right arm in what looks like a protective gesture to his face. Which is understandable after the strikes, that’s going to bloody hurt.

Not a good look at all.

Mr Yakoob said the medical condition of the man who was kicked, who he named as Fahir Amaaz, had worsened overnight and “a CT scan has revealed there is a cyst on his brain”.

GMP will probably portray this as a win for the bloke – if our officer hadn’t used his head as a football, he never would have found that thing growing in his brain!

It’s just a side-finding of the MRI he’s had to have because his bonce was punted into next week, it won’t be as a result of being kicked.

Can’t head injury be a cause of cyst on the brain?

Can’t head injury be a cause of cyst on the brain?

It could be, though I think they’d more likely describe it as a lesion?  brain cysts are not as uncommon as you might think and often totally benign.

But it could be due to the blow to the head, they’ll have an idea from the location whether it likely is or not, but certainly the blows like that in the video could cause a membrane to rupture and fill with fluid.

If that was the case and it resulted in brain damage of any sort, eg trauma related epilepsy is possible after brain injury, then I imagine there is going to be a big compensation claim coming

Just seen 50p Lee on the news. He’s an absolutely cretinous turbo-c*** isn’t he?

And a massive hypocrite, which is not news.

Edit: in case that doesn’t load for anyone, as it hasn’t for me, it’s Anderson fronting a “One Punch Can Kill” awareness campaign in 2021. Predumambly he was campaiging against people hitting each other, but who knows.

Can’t head injury be a cause of cyst on the brain?

Yeah, but not instantaneously, unless it’s been misdescribed.

Why is that gobshite Anderson constantly on the news? It’s not his constituency, and he’s part of a tiny party of idiots and con-men. Just because someone is willing to be quoted on something doesn’t mean you should quote him.

Unless there was a real and immediate threat to life, kicking someone in the head when they are on the ground seems out of all proportion, and quite possibly illegal.

Though if being a copper was simple and straight forward, we’d all do it.

Nope. some of us decidedly ago to do something more useful, where shit decisions from above could be questioned.

Why is that gobshite Anderson constantly on the news?

Probably so that soundbite can be shared across various platforms to generate clicks?

There will be some fine upstanding citizens masturbating themselves into a frothing frenzy over it no doubt.

All we need is a comment from Farage and Robinson and we have the trifecta of weapons grade bellends.

Goodness – here’s footage of cops going through the red shirt chap’s pockets.

https://x.com/mikecmorgan/status/1816226227776282780

The icing on this entire sorry affair is that the solicitor representing the guy who’s head was stamped on also appears to be an absolute weapons grade bell end.

@Tom-B that interview felt very ‘American’ that’s for sure. Same with the compoface tik toks.

Yeah, but not instantaneously, unless it’s been misdescribed.

I’m not sure that’s true- a cyst would form if fluid built up after membrane damage, could increase in size as it fills up

(my nephew was recently diagnosed with epilepsy and a cyst has been fine in a ct scan, so I’ve been chatting to docs about this)

@Tom-B that interview felt very ‘American’ that’s for sure. Same with the compoface tik toks.

I mean he falsely accused a teacher of racism, naming her and her school online, prompting the inevitable death threats that females get targeted with in these instances. It was a total fabrication and he’s refused to apologise.

Being a cop must be shit. Kick someone in the head, you’re a monster. Let them grab your gun and shoot about a bit, you’re incompetent.

But can we believe anything they say ?, which is pretty much how it goes when they’re in the wrong and attempting to prove justification for their actions.

Hillsborough for example.

David Duckenfield, South Yorkshire police chief superintendent, claimed the Liverpool fans were the ones that opened the gate. Turns out he authorized its opening himself. Or how these fans were drunk and non compliant which turned out to be a pack of lies.

Or Jean Charles de Menezes

They said he was challenged and refused to obey and then ran off, and  how he was wearing a thick padded jacket on a hot day which they said they believed might be concealing an explosive device, so their suspicion of him was justified. which were complete fabrications,but was in fact wearing a thin denim jacket. they further claimed he had jumped the barrier and ran down the escalator, when in fact he walked through the barrier and slowly down the stairs.

He hadn’t been challenged right up until the seconds before they emptied they guns into his head,

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It’s no longer Dixon of Dock green, but a force trained overwhelm anyone with force of violence.

Stephen Lennon has for a while been planning a large demonstration in London this Saturday, I don’t know whether recent events in Manchester are likely to significantly swell the number of his supporters, or counter demonstrators, I suspect that it might

SAT 27 JULY: DEMONSTRATE: Unite against fascist Tommy Robinson in London

I’m not sure that’s true- a cyst would form if fluid built up after membrane damage, could increase in size as it fills up

I’m sure head trauma can produce a subarachnoid cyst, but the formation of a cyst sac takes time. Brain scans often turn up incidental findings, sometimes without providing the necessary context for families who are understandably stressed out about the primary reason the scan was ordered.

Presumably the guy’s lawyer believes that the cyst is relevant to the assault otherwise I can’t see the point of mentioning it at the impromptu news conference. And if he does you would hope that it is based on medical advice which he has received.

I have  just seen one news website describing the situation as the man “fighting for his life”, I didn’t think that it was that serious and I’m hoping that it is hyperbole

Presumably the guy’s lawyer believes that the cyst is relevant to the assault otherwise I can’t see the point of mentioning it at the impromptu news conference

Cysts and abscesses are usually the result of a previous injury that has healed, at least partly i think. While i was doing college for meat inspection at Glasgow abattoir we would see these types of things. Site of injections or previous injury, although usually just below the skin, or buried deep in the muscle,or even in some of the organs like the lungs or liver.

So I think as a matter of course, and being walloped in the napper is going to produce a bad headache, a trip to a+e would be something family would insist upon. Then finding a cyst might just be coincidental, and its been there for a long time.

I think if actual damage had been done at the time, it would be in the form of a clot or a bleed.

Presumably the guy’s lawyer believes that the cyst is relevant to the assault otherwise I can’t see the point of mentioning it at the impromptu news conference. And if he does you would hope that it is based on medical advice which he has received

Its a good job lawyers, as a profession, are renowned for their honesty and integrity and are never referred to with prefixes like ‘ambulance chaser…’. I believe they’re up there with GPs and your parish priest when it comes to trustworthiness. This particular one looks like the very beacon of probity, not at all predisposed towards hyperbole or exaggeration or like he’s loving every second in front of the TV cameras.

In the absence of all the facts, I think at this point we probably need to take what comes out from both sides with the usual side order of salt

I mean he falsely accused a teacher of racism, naming her and her school online, prompting the inevitable death threats that females get targeted with in these instances. It was a total fabrication and he’s refused to apologise.

This I did not know. He sounds and acts like an absolute whopper.

I have just seen one news website describing the situation as the man “fighting for his life”, I didn’t think that it was that serious and I’m hoping that it is hyperbole

Unless he’s deteriorated suddenly, he looked OK in the video he released via his lawyer as soon as he was released, in fact, he looked way better than I expected given the awful kicking he took in the video…the mere fact that there’s a lawyer all over the media so quickly makes my skin itch though. Ambulance chasing at it’s finest.

the mere fact that there’s a lawyer all over the media so quickly makes my skin itch though. Ambulance chasing at it’s finest.

I’m pretty sure that same lawyer has also been involved in other controversial cases, he does seem like a massive dick

Can’t help thinking there’s a certain amount of “**** around, find out” involved here, but I’ll be keen to hear the justification for kicking someone in the head when they’re on the ground.

I’m going to reserve judgment until I hear the facts.

Presumably the guy’s lawyer believes that the cyst is relevant to the assault

Relevant to his client’s future compensation case, certainly.

TBH people who get booted in the head to that degree should probably be awarded extra up front even if there is no immediate evidence of lasting damage, given what we are learning about the legacy of head injuries. And any police officer who views that as an acceptable way to subdue someone should have to pay it personally.

The lawyer is definitely giving off a certain vibe…

I believe they’re up there with GPs and your parish priest when it comes to trustworthiness.

You don’t trust GPs? I wasn’t aware that as a profession they had a reputation for being dishonest or somehow untrustworthy.

If there has been no medical advice that the cyst on the brain could have been caused by the assault then it will be undoubtedly incredibly easy to refute – those investigating the assault will obviously have access to all the medical reports.

Slightly random tangent occurred to me, but if the copper is sacked or convicted of an offence, would Lee Anderthal’s statement that the public want more of this type of Policing count as bringing Parliament into disrepute and need to be dealt with by the Parliamentary watchdog.

And even more intriguingly,  would Farages totally incorrect comments about the Leeds riot qualify as racist hate speech?

those investigating the assault will obviously have access to all the medical reports.

Those handling the compensation claim certainly will.

So, we’ve a short video of a longer messy interaction & a cock womble of a solicitor with form for fabrication – it’s not like we know an awful lot about what went on is it? If that officer is guilty of any criminal activity then they should be punished without question. But how about we wait a bit before jumping all over GMP? Innocent before etc..

Yeah, it’s not like anyone has ever released a very selectively edited video onto social media, wrenched out of context of a bigger picture, to convey a certain message

We don’t know much but we do know that 3 police officers required hospital treatment, one female officer with a broken nose

Theres no video (yet) of how that happened, but it’s probably safe to assume all 3 of them didn’t trip up over a clumsily placed Ferrero Rocher display in duty free

But how about we wait a bit before jumping all over GMP?

Has anyone actually done that?

Edit: To be fair I haven’t been following the thread that closely so it is a genuine question.

You don’t trust GPs? I wasn’t aware that as a profession they had a reputation for being dishonest or somehow untrustworthy.

I am detecting a hint of sarcasm in Binners’ post. Hard to believe, I know. GPs are right up there with journalists when it comes to safeguarding truth and freedom.

would Lee Anderthal’s statement that the public want more of this type of Policing count as bringing Parliament into disrepute and need to be dealt with by the Parliamentary watchdog.

Likely to be an accurate comment about the views of those who sent him to Parliament.