At this point I can imagine Mr Flashman going ‘aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhhh! This isn’t helping’. Well, my Handjob was lovely , but I wanted a singlespeed frame that didn’t need a tensioner and the 853 came along at exactly the right time, otherwise I might have gone for a Genesis or a Charge, and been quite happy with either, but I love the Inbred to bits, and would recommend one to anyone. Also, my other Inbred, a 567 prototype I got from Brant happened along when I wanted a cheap long-travel frame to replace a Hummer I had, and again, I just love the way it rides, I can’t fault it, so a 456 would probably suit you with a good fork on the front like a Pike or a Minute. Really tho’ there are so many damn good hardtails around that it’s almost impossible to try all of them, and it probably comes down to the way a bike looks as much as anything. I don’t really like wishbone seatstays, so would discount a Cotic, however I do like the De Kerf design, which On-One bikes copy, so I’m more than happy with mine, plus they work with the long top-tube/ short stem set up particularly well. Write out a list and stick a pin in it is as good a way of picking one as any. ;0)