Reccomend me a steel hardtail
Decide whether you want lighter or stronger, steeper or slacker angles, and whether you want 100-120mm or 130mm+ forks. That’ll shorten the options list.Posted 8 years ago
Lighter, 110mm forked Sanderson here – spot on for XC, ‘normal’ trail rides and a spot of racing.
Adjustable forks are good!tinribzMember
I recommend this I saw on fleabay:
With some ‘proper’ forks obviously.Posted 8 years agoTrustyrustyMember
I’ve a Soul and a Dialled (although it’s a Love/hate, see my pics thread) I prefer the feel of the dialled’s and on-ones to the Soul, but the differences are tiny. My mates PA rode great but was a bit of a beast, but that was probably down to the heavy old Marzocchi fork he uses.
If you are near Northants, you are more than welcome to try/borrow mine.
TRPosted 8 years agoswooshMember
I have to say i love my Pipedream sirius. Cheaper than some of the options offered up so far if that’s an issue. I would agree with cheers-drive on the long top tube, short stem option. kinda why i went for the Pipedream as its quite long but long as common as an inbred, so what have i just bought, correct, an inbred, love that too.Posted 8 years ago
I know not long travel but genesis alptitude?
Not sure how fast a burly steel frame will “feel”, probably not like poop of a shiney shovel – but I guess it depends how you build it up. Frame might also not have the spirited ride of it’s lighter steel brethren.
try. see. demo.Posted 8 years agoCountZeroMember
The Alpitude is a stunning looking bike, and well specced, as you’re expect. Like the look of the Alpine, and as the owner of two Inbreds, one with 160mm Nixons up front, and previously a Handjob, that was replaced by my 853 SS Inbred, they are all perfectly respectable choices as well. Difficult decision, these days.Posted 8 years agomike-at-dialledbikesMember
harryflashman – Member
I do love the whole long top tube and stubby stem thing, and the alpine is growing on me everytime I look at Jamie and davidtaylforth’s pics. I’m after something with long travel ideally, but mainly it has to be like poop off a shiny shovel.
Harry, only got the Alpines in 15.5″ size 21″ top tube left, so if you wanna go dialled bikes it’ll have to be a Prince Albert if 15.5″ isn’t your size.Posted 8 years agoswooshMember
CountZero – Member
The Alpitude is a stunning looking bike, and well specced, as you’re expect. Like the look of the Alpine, and as the owner of two Inbreds, one with 160mm Nixons up front, and previously a Handjob, that was replaced by my 853 SS Inbred, they are all perfectly respectable choices as well. Difficult decision, these days.
yes it is, but i’d also suggest that it’s not easy to find a duffer as you seem to have found out too.Posted 8 years agoPiefaceMember
I had the same dilemna.
Went for a Soul in the end because I could afford it and it suits my riding the most. If I’d gone for a PA I’d have to have bought a bolt-thru fork(IMO) (needing a new wheel) etc, which isn’t required for my style of riding.
I’ve never ridden any of the others, though the Pipedreams and Dialled have poor stickers (I know….) and the PAs are heavy, but thats because they’re strong. I guess they’re pretty much unbreakable, but unless you do a lot of jumps on the jump park most things are
Apparently the Handjobs have slack angles, but that means nothing to me.
I bought the Soul cos I always wanted one and was a slighlty longer travel version of what I had before, a RM blizzard.Posted 8 years agoCountZeroMember
At this point I can imagine Mr Flashman going ‘aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhhh! This isn’t helping’. Well, my Handjob was lovely , but I wanted a singlespeed frame that didn’t need a tensioner and the 853 came along at exactly the right time, otherwise I might have gone for a Genesis or a Charge, and been quite happy with either, but I love the Inbred to bits, and would recommend one to anyone. Also, my other Inbred, a 567 prototype I got from Brant happened along when I wanted a cheap long-travel frame to replace a Hummer I had, and again, I just love the way it rides, I can’t fault it, so a 456 would probably suit you with a good fork on the front like a Pike or a Minute. Really tho’ there are so many damn good hardtails around that it’s almost impossible to try all of them, and it probably comes down to the way a bike looks as much as anything. I don’t really like wishbone seatstays, so would discount a Cotic, however I do like the De Kerf design, which On-One bikes copy, so I’m more than happy with mine, plus they work with the long top-tube/ short stem set up particularly well. Write out a list and stick a pin in it is as good a way of picking one as any. ;0)Posted 8 years agomboySubscriber
The question perhaps nobody has asked yet that they should have done, is what type of riding do you do?
Would suggest a Cotic Soul isn’t going to be the best option if it’s a Freeride Hardtail you’re after, likewise a Dialled Alpine not the best if you want a lightweight XC bike!
FWIW, there’s soooooo many options and each has their benefits and detractors of course.
Got a Genesis Altitude with 125mm travel forks myself, I like it, but it’s at the more XC end of the scale from all the frames mentioned so far. Similar to the Cotic Soul, but with more conventional seat and chainstays than the wishbone stays on the Cotic. It’s also about 20% cheaper than the Cotic. Rides nice anyway!Posted 8 years ago
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