really sorry – ardent v advantage v HR v minion
I need to rplace the standard mountain kings on my crush and will be fitting maxxis. was going for the minions 2.3 60 flavour front and rear. Don’t know why really but owts gotta be better than the conti’s. i ride at gisburn or the dales mainly but am certainly not a badass downhill type dude.Posted 7 years agodrunkenmonkeyMember
I know where you’re coming from with this one. For more heavy duty stuff I would go with minions but if you have to pick only one I would go with HR. I switched from minions to HR recently and was really impressed. Light, roll well and stick almost as well as the minions.
There you go that’s my input over.
EnjoyPosted 7 years agoltheisingerMember
Advantages = Good tyre & rolled VERY well, but I had issues with grip on the front end and had endless punctures!
High Rollers = ‘OK’ at everything and rolls well but also suffered with punctures.
Minions = Most grippy tyre I have used and NO punctures whatsoever despite just covering some really harsh terrain in California, but DO NOT ROLL VERY WELL AT ALL!
So I think the next mix for me will be Minion Front & HR rear.Posted 7 years agojools182Member
I have a Patriot and I can’t make up my mind which maxxis tyres to go for, read all the reviews and its not helped much as everyone seems to like all of them
I want something thats pretty fast rolling as the bike is a heavy old girl, and I ride in the peaks, and I’ll probably use them all year round as I’m skint
I’m off to hide now for what I’ve donePosted 7 years agoSuggseySubscriber
I have been running Ardents all Summer in the UK and they are an ace summer tyre but and here is the big but, on the front end on sticky clay soils they are lethal. So at the the moment I have switched back to a Minnion FR single ply front on the front and an Ardent still on the rear but for the peaks I would consider running two minnion fronts that way there will be no compromise on grip.Posted 7 years ago
As for puncture resistance last time I sliced the sidewall of a Minnion Single Ply rear was after descending Jacobs Ladder on my Kona Coiler-cut it on one of the drainage bars by the farm at the bottom.
I know someone that has run Advantage all winter last year and he seemd to have okay grip unless it got really claggy.
Just remeber running an Advent on the front in winter mud=laying on the floor thinking ‘how did that happen’.scaredypantsSubscriber
Just remeber running an Advent on the front in winter mud=laying on the floor thinking ‘how did that happen’.
Advents don’t really come into their own until about December 😉
(I found the same with ardents – they have a central strip, then a bald patch before the edge grip. scary if you lean a bit; OK if you lean a lot, or barely at all. I bought one for my wintery mud nightriding bike, which I don’t rag about everywhere & lean like I’m in motoGP, and it just didn’t work for me. Prob great on drier ground)Posted 7 years agoBadlyWiredDogSubscriber
Peak-based here – I use a Minion DHF on the front – 2.35, but it’s small for the size, so with a Patriot you might want to look at the 2.5 maybe – and an Ardent on the back – good combination most of the time in the Peak (local riding) unless you find mud, in which case the rear will let go occasionally, good on rocky/gritty norm though and reasonably fast rolling. For fool-proof, all-year riding, Minion DHF front and rear works really well and isn’t ridiculously slow.
If you want fast rolling, I’d steer clear of High Rollers which are s-l-o-w ime, or maybe just use on on the front, tho personally I think the Minion is a better, more directional front tyre without the on/off lean thing you get with HRs. I haven’t ridden the Advantage, so I have no idea, but year round, idiot proof combo would be Minion DHF/Minion DHF, faster option, Ardent on back but be prepared for slippage and wear.
Great tyres btw, I used to use Schwalbe NNs/RRs, but got tired of wearing through sidewalls before the tread expired. Maxxis use grippier rubber, tougher all round and are a lot cheaper too.Posted 7 years agoorena45Subscriber
ADvantage fan here as well. Run 2.1 folding Exceptions front and rear on my EX8 all year round, although have had the 70a on the rear before.
Am about to start consolidating my jump bike and XC hardtail (which also has 2.1 ADvantages) onto an MmmBop and that’ll have 2.25 ADs on too when complete.Posted 7 years agoBaldysquirtSubscriber
Advantages seem to be very popular amongst our group of regular peak riders. I’ve had a pair on my Prophet for nearly a year now and think they’re great. 2.25 folding are what I’m running (I think that’s 62a compound). I’m considering putting something more toothy on the front for more muddy conditions – not because the Advantages are bad in mud (They’re one tyre I reckon could be kept on all year round) – It’s that I’m not very good in mud and need all the help I can get.Posted 7 years agobigjimSubscriber
high rollers were great for grip and surefootedness on the way downhill, but are so slow rolling and heavy, and not great on the back on climbs, in my experience. to be honest you aren’t likely to go wrong, people get obsessed with tires and anyone that says “I had tire x on the front and crashed therefore its the tire” needs to look at their riding. smoke and dart ftw.Posted 7 years ago
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