Rain – is there going to be a silver lining?

Yeah, it’s not like a couple of years ago where we were getting risk to life warnings every week, but as others say, this is the norm for the UK and in the future, with climate change, this is how we’ll be, the flip side of that is other places are getting it a lot worse, heatwaves, drought, wildfires, etc, so we’re getting the better side of the deal to be fair.

I went out yesterday morning as we had sun and blue sky, dressed for a dry summer ride. But I hadn’t counted on another two weeks’ growth of the triffid like nettles, brambles and weeds lining the trails which were holding gallons of water from Saturday’s rains. Cut the ride short I was so soaked, and arms covered in weird red rashes and cuts

Maybe next weekend it’ll be lovely in Wales for my big summer ride?!

“this is the norm for the UK and in the future, with climate change”

Well, no. How long have we had cold wet summers? When do you think it changed from hot and dry to cold and wet? A decade or two ago?

You can’t say the climate has permanently changed due to anecdotal observations of your patch of the planet over a couple of decades. Weather and climate patterns play out over hundreds and thousands of years.

It’s sunny this morning in the Lakes I am off to make the most of it 🙂

Some of you sound alot like small children.

Its not that cold.

Its not so hot its trying to kill you.

Just get on with it?

Some of you sound alot like small children.

Its not that cold.

Its not so hot its trying to kill you.

Just get on with it?

OK boomer

Nice try sunshine but i’m not yet 40.

It’s the new word that now constantly gets used something Michael Fish and the other old codjers that gave us weather on the BBC probably never knew about the Jetstream

Who was the quirky old Scotsman with funny ears had a lived in face and a voice from an island with only another 50 inhabitants but lots of sheep ?

Are you daft? Think back to last year.

Infrastructure failing due to 40dec temps.

Fires on moors, woodlands. Huge fires abroad.

Where I am (West Yorkshire) the farmers had a really poor start this year due to the wet spring. For the first time in a few years they’ll be able to get a few crops from their hay, rather than one early crop and then nothing as the ground is too dry.

We need a balance, sun and rain.

It’s nice to see everything looking green and lush.

I’m not bothered about the temps, I’d just a like a few consecutive days of sun. Feels like I’ve only seen the occasional snippet of blue sky for the past few weeks and the trails are getting sloppy.

Just realised it’s St Swithin’s day.

Oh dear

Historically, it’s almost always sunnier and drier in May and June than Jul and Aug. It’s both warmer and wetter in Jul and Aug. The average hours of sun in July historically is about 200 hours, this decade we’ve seen about 85% of that total.

If you think the summers of your youth were always sunnier, Looking at the 1970, the average sun hours in Jul over the decade was 152 (Summer 1976 was 259)

It’s ben sunnier in Jul recently (from about 2000 onwards) than the 1970-1990s, but still trending just below the historical average – which goes back to 1865.

So you’re saying that now is the summer of our discount tents?

No like button at the moment but I had to log in specially to applaud this one!

As far as the weather is concerned… personally I don’t care what the average is, it feels like it’s been drizzling almost constantly since September (ok, with the occasional nice few days here and there) and I’m about ready to scream. Never experienced SAD before this last winter but now I understand. Thankfully it’s nice and sunny today!

Given the state of our summers, what exactly is going on in net zero Millipede’s let’s call it brain? 2,500 acres of prime arable turned into a desert of glass.. But hey “the adults are back in the room”

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/dismay-for-campaigners-as-government-approves-2-500-acre-sun-9374530/

Given the state of our summers, what exactly is going on in net zero Millipede’s let’s call it brain? 2,500 acres of prime arable turned into a desert of glass.. But hey “the adults are back in the room”

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/dismay-for-campaigners-as-government-approves-2-500-acre-sun-9374530/

Lol.

what exactly is going on in net zero Millipede’s let’s call it brain? 2,500 acres of prime arable turned into a desert of glass.. But hey “the adults are back in the room”

OK boomer

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Reckon you are closer with that one.

prime arable turned into a desert of glass..

Lol indeed, you can farm under solar panels for crops tha’t dont need huge amounts of light, which is a lot of them… and it prevents the soil drying out too much.. the panels are mounted on frames and can be built to rotate to follow the sun, allowing the ground beneath to get periods of light and shade throughout the day.

https://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/solar-panels/agrivoltaic-farming

Lol indeed, you can farm under solar pannels for crops that dont need huge amounts of light, which is a lot of them… and it prevents the soil drying out too much.. the panels are mounted on frames and can be built to rotate to follow the sun, allowing the ground beneath to get periods of light and shade throughout the day.

https://www.theecoexperts.co.uk/solar-panels/agrivoltaic-farming

You can also graze sheep and geese.

But i’m not sure actual facts are going to be enough in this instance.

Edit: geese not turkeys.

Of course the St Swithin’s day weather prophesy dates back to the 13th or 14th century and is possibly pre Christian. The risk of a rubbish July/August is just one of the joys of living on a rock on the North Atlantic

So you’re saying that now is the summer of our discount tents?

This deserves far more recognition than it got. Chapeau sir/madam!

It might as well rain until September.

So you’re saying that now is the summer of our discount tents?

I remember seeing a sign outside Millets(?) Beeston with the winter version of that joke 25 years ago. It’s very good.

I’m trying to plan a week or two in England over the next month or two… could you just settle on dates for rain now please to help me decide.

Frankly, I expected more from a Labour government.

You can’t say the climate has permanently changed due to anecdotal observations of your patch of the planet over a couple of decades

However we can clearly say that the 1.5degree rise in temps worldwide has now happened.  We can also say that with more energy in the atmosphere that weather will become more extreme.

Some of you sound alot like small children.

Its not that cold.

Its not so hot its trying to kill you.

Just get on with it?

I think you’ll find that small children couldn’t give a shit! Two years ago, at about this time I had blisters on my fingers from picking up a car key someone had left on a car dashboard. It was 40° inside the car…

Personally, I’m fine with the weather as it is, I like it a bit changeable, and it’s saving me from having to water my garden every day.

This map shows what any given location will be like in 2080 – Chippenham will be like just south of Bordeaux. Good for wine growing.

Here’s a link to the map, for anyone interested who wants to play with it…

https://fitzlab.shinyapps.io/cityapp/

I’ve read this through. Is it raining too much, or is it too hot?

I believe the complaint is too much of both, just not at the same time in all places.

I think you’ll find that small children couldn’t give a shit!

Very valid point. Okay you lot all sound like miserable middle to old ag….

…as you were.

I remember seeing a sign outside Millets(?) Beeston with the winter version of that joke 25 years ago. It’s very good.

Yes, just a twist on an old classic.

And as to the weather, it would be nice just for the rain to leave off for a few weeks.

Don’t even want it too hot, that makes riding unpleasant – and some of us on here still do that.

It’s nice to see everything looking green and lush.

This!

Yes it rains a lot, but ours is a beautiful country!

Give me rolling green hills, thick colourful hedgerows sprinkled with wildflowers and butterflies, and where I am, beaitiful rivers. I’ll take this over dusty, parched and dry.

I feel for those who only see Britain as a wet and dreary place, and who’s only escape is a week in Turkey

I feel for those who only see Britain as a wet and dreary place, and who’s only escape is a week in Turkey

Assuming this was directed at me – I don’t ordinarily think it is a wet or dreary place but this year has been awful – only had nice enough weather to sit outside on an evening on a couple of occasions, only had a couple of BBQs and my chillies and tomatoes are crying out for sunshine. So we decided to go somewhere where we can get a bit of guaranteed sunshine for 10 nights rather than holidaying at home and potentially dodging even more cool and wet weather.

And I got soaked again this morning walking the dog.

It’s good to see a weather moan thread (genuinely) that doesn’t have reams of idiots spraying their HIDDEN TRUTHS about cloud seeding and the government plan to cover up the sun, which they seem to have deduced from “something isn’t right”.

Holding out hope for a nice August and September.

No @johndoh not at all.

The general public, that I sometimes feel don’t appreciate how beautful GB is – if you have a decent rain jacket!

My grass is appreciating the rain and warm weather, has put on a growth spurt.

47mm of rain here in Aviemore yesterday. Running round Glenmore was interesting 🙂

This map shows what any given location will be like in 2080 – Chippenham will be like just south of Bordeaux. Good for wine growing.

Apparently the major French vineyards have been buying up land in the south of England for a few years now, in preparation for a time when it’s better for viticulture than France. (Vines take a very long time to grow and get productive)

If anything it’s teaching me to seize the moment, I passed on a solo ride in the sunshine yesterday evening for the prospect of a group ride this evening, but the forecast has changed (as they now seem to do on a near hourly basis) and it’s heaving with rain, d’oh!

Carpe diem etc.

However we can clearly say that the 1.5degree rise in temps worldwide has now happened

1.5 degrees change compared to what?

What are the datas points and how reliable are they?

Just to remind you there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

After yesterday’s downpour I’m wondering if you can get clipless mtb wellies

Wales is going to be moist