- Racism in Golf
been of a certain, but not great age i remember it being wrong to call people black, correct to call them coloured and now in recent years specifically detailling skin tone /colour has become the accepted behavoiur.
so when some one of my age uses the currently inappropriate description i have some sympathy, its not as if we receive monthly updates from the powers that be..Posted 4 years ago
I’m glad you posted this, cos I was going to.
a) What the hell’s up with the “fried chicken” comment, is that a cultural thing I’ve missed?
b) We’ve discussed this before, but is the “coloured” comment perhaps not just innocent use of a non-PC term? I’ve used it before in a naive attempt to avoid racially-loaded words (exactly as totalshell describes), and was shocked to hear it was frowned upon; also, the chap in question was supposed to be apologising for the previous comment so it seems mental that he’d be intentionally racist.Posted 4 years ago
Do you think a little common decency and understanding of racism is being force upon you by some megalomaniac in a government department?
No, but I think what words are / aren’t considered ‘-ist’ change quickly. Context is everything; never mind the word, what was the intent? Just because the listener takes offence doesn’t inherently make it an offensive word.Posted 4 years ago
Firstly we have Sergio’s Fried Chicken Faux-pas.
Then the European tour chief executive, George O’Grady uses the term, “coloured athletes” to describe “many of Garcia’s friends” when being interviewed about the “fried chicken” comment.
Frankly, I’m shocked. Golf!! My hands are pretty much wrung dry after the last few days. 😐Posted 4 years agobrakesMember
there’s a really fine and rather stupid line here that has been crossed.Posted 4 years ago
the food he commented on is stereotypically eaten by a particular race and therefore to assume someone of that race should like to eat it could be deemed racist.
if you suggested someone of a particular nationality would like to eat a particular food then that would not be racist, or even seen as that bad would it?
if you were an alien and learning about the planet, would this make any sense?grumMember
In my experience (very limited in real life tbh) black people do quite like fried chicken. The three black people that I know reasonably well bloody love it. Make of that what you will.
It’s maybe slightly stereotyping but I struggle to see how its offensive. I can see with the history of racism it’s a bit different to suggesting British people like cups of tea or fish and chips, but only slightly.Posted 4 years ago
It is a steriotype that black folk like fried chicken. All stereotypes have a basis in truth and in my experience this one is true. For instance look at Usain Bolt all he ate in China was fried chicken, he won a gold medal on fried chicken.
Would there be the same uproar if he had said he was going to serve an English bloke a roast dinner? Its exactly the same thing!Posted 4 years ago
I wonder if there would have been the same fuss if Woods had suggested they have Paella.
Well paella has no racist overtones that I am aware of*. As for paella v fried chicken think say chippy versus say chinki , they are not the same.
Likewise with Chinki the term could be used with or without malice.
Me I know **** all about golf to decide if he was or was not racist
As for the guy apologising for the one who said it I would send someone who actually could and knew WTF they were talking about
* Chicken dishes were popular among slaves before the Civil War, as chickens were generally the only animals slaves could raise on their own. It is generally used in a derigatory way from what little I have gleamedPosted 4 years ago
Will Deadlydarcy answer with anything other than “Probably not, no”?
Resisting the obvious answer…
It was a fairly accurate answer to the three questions. In fact more accurate would be to say, “Not at all” for the reasons JY stated. Paellas and roast dinners don’t have racial undertones. “Fried chicken” does. Which is unfortunate for folk who want to use the term in a derogatory fashion.Posted 4 years ago
Well as Paki is just short for Pakistanian and Scot is just short for Scottish I can use them both as that is what they mean?
You can say they are just the same if you like but you need to ignore what they mean to do this with the example above and fried chicken/paella tbh.
“So you know what you guys do when he gets in here?” Zoeller said to reporters, referring to the following year’s Champions Dinner. “Pat him on the back, say congratulations, enjoy it. And tell him not to serve fried chicken next year — or collared greens or whatever the hell they serve.”
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9ufpU3X-t4w[/video]Posted 4 years agoconvertSubscriber
The irony is that the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) once accused Woods of being racist for his choice of only white partners. If a leading rights organisation has not got around to loosing the “coloured” from their title it can’t be that bad can it? Can’t say I would ever think of using it though.Posted 4 years agobusydogMember
A food associated with black people in America I believe Cougar. Can have racial undertones (or is it “overtones”?) when used in certain parlance.
I think the parties involved are making way too much ado about it. Everything has to be so flippin’ PC these days—good lord we don’t want to offend anyone. 😆
I worked in Human Resources for years and way back when I started the PC term was black, then it changed to African Americans. Same with Spanish/Mexican people–first it was Mexican, then Latino/Latina and now it seems to be Hispanic or Latin American–no matter which you use, someone will be offended in some way. As someone posted above, the NAACP uses the word “colored” in their title, but heaven help you if you refer to someone as colored here.
FWIW, I’m not African American and I love fried chicken.Posted 4 years ago
CharlieMungus – Member
Would there be the same uproar if he had said he was going to serve an English bloke a roast dinner? Its exactly the same thing!
No, it’s probably not
It is but anyway how about saying that the Scottish deep fry everything. Its a stereotype that has a basis in truth but it is no more racist for a black person to say it than it is for me to say it. I am white and half Scottish fwiw.
As an aside is it racist to say that an Indian chap likes curry?
Its a joke about food can’t people get over it? Why does everything have to have racist/sexist/xenophobic undertones that involve people getting their knickers in a twist in some sort of sympathy offence.Posted 4 years ago
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