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  • tjagain
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    Scare some ruddy tourists!

    On my bike I have crossed Edinburgh 3 times this week.  Town is heaving with festival goers and they just wander everywhere.  6 hard stops and two full blown emergency stops to avoid hitting them plus gawd alone knows how many times I had to shout to stop them from wandering into my path.  Im not riding in the gutter, I’m riding legally and they just wander around oblivious in the road and on the cycleways.

    Its so tempting to just whizz past an inch from their elbows and give ’em a good scare 🙂  I sorta see why car drivers do it to cyclists.

    Maybe I should start behaving like a Amsterdam cyclist 🙂

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    fasthaggis
    Full Member

    The sooner you buy that cottage out in the countryside, the better.

    LoLz,etc,etc 🙂

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    scaredypants
    Full Member

    Charlie Alliston

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    fasthaggis
    Full Member

    #TJdissnaerideafixie

    longdog
    Free Member

    It’s a general tourist factor everywhere I think…. wandering about in their own world forgetting that these are actually roads they’re on. Add headphones to the mix for the ultimate pedestrian zombie.

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    I knew it was you on Monday you bastard!

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    TheDTs
    Free Member

    Stopping over tomorrow evening on the way back from the highlands. I’ll keep an eye out for you TJ. I was hoping it was all quietened down a bit by the time we get there but unlikely by the sound of it.. Staying central at my wife’s cousins so hope parking will be okay..

    A bit OT but, TJ how risky would it be to park for the night with 4 bikes on the bike rack (Locked obvs). Water of Leith area, if that matters? Not silly expensive eBikes just some average steel HT’s and an old GT..

    And on topic, yes pedestrians on cycle paths oblivious to other users. very frustrating. We have a boot camp group in Bristol that take over the downs in one area, total disregard for anyone else. I am tempted with a a close pass on the odd occasion..

    fasthaggis
    Full Member

    I wouldn’t. 🙁

    Leave the bikes oot on show.

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    kelvin
    Full Member

    Slow down?

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    dyna-ti
    Full Member

    You don’t see the similarity of cars doing the same to cyclists. Is such behaviour the responsible grown up thing to do.

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    johnners
    Free Member

    Get a bell. And try to remember the hierarchy of vulnerability, you grumpy git!

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    doomanic
    Full Member

    Slow down?

    This.

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    pondo
    Full Member

    But you’ve seen them, right?

    thenorthwind
    Full Member

    Slow down?

    This.

    Have to admit I’ve done this quite a few times in the past. Not proud of it. After this

    Charlie Alliston

    I grew up, got a heavy, slow bike with a bell and stopped being a d***.

    I do occasionally engage in some controlled locking of the rear wheel when it’s not really necessary… The sound often penetrates where a bell doesn’t.

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    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Thread next week: ‘Why I should have worn a helmet while trying to punishment pass a tourist!’

    tjagain
    Full Member

    A bit OT but, TJ how risky would it be to park for the night with 4 bikes on the bike rack (Locked obvs). Water of Leith area, if that matters? Not silly expensive eBikes just some average steel HT’s and an old GT..

    Pretty risky unless you have good locks and more than one and even then I would feel twitchy

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    martinhutch
    Full Member

    Urban bike thieves don’t always know what they’re looking at. The real question is ‘how much would losing my bikes ruin my holiday, even if they’re fairly cheap ones?’

    andrewh
    Free Member

    Pretty much anywhere in Edinburgh just put them in the car, should be loads of room without the people in it, not worth the risk

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Slow down?

    Most of it I was watching and had slowed sometimes to walking pace hence I didn’t hit them. One was where I clearly had right of way and she stepped right into my path off a kerb without warning  Downhill but I wasn’t going stupid fast because of all the festival lovies 🙂 so I did manage not to hit anyone tho one came close

    Get a bell.

    This bike doesn’t have a bell (but the rest do) but I’m not sure if a polite ping would have made much difference given the environment.  a big loud “dring drging” might but I do find that a bit rude Dutch style 🙂

    And try to remember the hierarchy of vulnerability, you grumpy git!

    So maybe a bit of this but arrgghhh they drive me potty.  I have been reflecting 🙂 and I didn’t actually do it to any of them

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    martinhutch
    Full Member

    It’s festival time, shouldn’t you have an airhorn that plays ‘La Cucharacha’ or something similarly wacky?

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    BadlyWiredDog
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    Its so tempting to just whizz past an inch from their elbows and give ’em a good scare 🙂  I sorta see why car drivers do it to cyclists.

    I look forward to your thread titled: ‘Single Defendant Track World Can anyone recommend me a good defence barrister in Edinburgh?’

    You’d be an unpredicted movement away from ploughing into someone. As above, slow down, be patient, understand that people on holiday are more interested in taking in their novel surroundings than watching out for cyclists.  Be nice 🙂

    Oh, and maybe do as I do here in the Peak District and simply be grateful to be living somewhere that other people actually want to visit.

    jimdubleyou
    Full Member

    get a timberbell… (or two)

    dyna-ti
    Full Member

    They don’t pay road tax y’know.

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    ajantom
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    “excuse me”

    “Excuse Me”

    “EXCUSE ME”

    “EXCUSE ME!”

    Turns around startled and takes out ear-buds

    “Ah, you scared me!”

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    tjagain
    Full Member

    You don’t see the similarity of cars doing the same to cyclists.

    Of course I do. Sort of the point of the whole post hence “punishment pass” and “I sorta see why car drivers do it to cyclists”

    🙂

    I understand the temptation to be a dick and scare folk.  I try not to actually do it tho

    tjagain
    Full Member

    I didn’t actually do it BWD.

    Caher
    Full Member

    Get some metal scythes on your bike wheels, that’ll cut those pesky pedestrians down to size.

    matt_outandabout
    Full Member

    Get one of those huuuuugely noisy electric horns….

    longdog
    Free Member

    “excuse me”

    “Excuse Me”

    “EXCUSE ME”

    “EXCUSE ME!”

    Turns around startled and takes out ear-buds

    “Ah, you scared me!”

    Yup! Bell as well as calling out and the same response.

    Then there’s that added to the uncontrolled  dogs or ones on 10m leads.   Had someone the other day hear my bell and tell me his dog (20m further on) won’t hear it as it’s deaf ?

    kormoran
    Free Member

    A bit OT but, TJ how risky would it be to park for the night with 4 bikes on the bike rack (Locked obvs). Water of Leith area, if that matters? Not silly expensive eBikes just some average steel HT’s and an old GT..

    Ex Leith resident here…..no, I wouldn’t do that. Wouldn’t leave them in the car either.

    scruffythefirst
    Free Member

    Cambridge is a nightmare, constant belly ringing gets nowhere. I usually punish them with a cheerily shouted ding-a-ling and a skid. While muttering under my breath…

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    Remember my Cambridge days – there was a day in the spring/ early summer when they all just suddenly appeared. Just because the street is cobbled, doesn’t mean it’s not a street open to all traffic. (And with well defined wide raised pavements on both sides)

    ChrisL
    Full Member

    Maybe the council will spend the money from the forthcoming tourist tax on buying cattle prods for any residents that have navigate the city centre during the Festival?

    Phil_H
    Full Member

    https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/edinburgh-fringe-kicks-off-annual-tosspot-migration-200908061961

    St Andrews is full of slack jawed golf tossers at the moment thanks to the AIG women’s open. They’ll be gone by Monday though.

    LAT
    Full Member

    they just wander around oblivious in the road and on the cycleways.

    that’s what it’s like when you live in a holiday hot spot that is also a real town.  Visitors to whistler manage to end up driving on the cycle paths

    CountZero
    Full Member

    Slow down?
    This.

    How fast would you suggest? I’ve been knocked off my bike at walking speed, having rung my bell several times, by someone walking along staring at her phone, then just walking in front of me as I got level with her! The compensation was she dropped her phone as she fell on top of me and smashed it. She never said a word the whole time, just turned around and walked away.

    “excuse me”

    “Excuse Me”

    “EXCUSE ME”

    “EXCUSE ME!”

    Turns around startled and takes out ear-buds

    “Ah, you scared me!”
    Yup! Bell as well as calling out and the same response.

    Then there’s that added to the uncontrolled dogs or ones on 10m leads. Had someone the other day hear my bell and tell me his dog (20m further on) won’t hear it as it’s deaf ?

    *sigh* – That could be me ten-fifteen years ago riding the Sustrans path along the Kennet & Avon Canal. There’s a certain irony in that Cyclebag, as Sustrans was twenty – thirty years ago restored the towpath for cyclists from Bath east towards Devizes having already done the Bristol – Bath railway line, and then the pedestrians demanded cyclists be banned from using *their* path!
    As well as a bell I also carried a Fox40 sports whistle, allegedly the loudest whistle on the market designed for referees in the huge American sports domes, and still people seemed not to hear it!
    I had people get cross because I rang a bell, “because it’s rude”, I’ve had others complain because I called out “excuse me”, ‘cos I should be using a bell…

    One bloke with a dog on a lead in front of me, on a busy stretch coming into Bradford-on-Avon, who I’d been following at walking speed because it was so busy, suddenly let his dog run in front of me as I started to pass having rung my bell, causing me to grab my brakes and stop doing a small skid on the lose gravel told me I was going too fast! My answer to that was that I’d been following him for the last hundred feet or so at the same speed he was going at, he should be controlling his bloody dog because of all the other people, dogs, children, and cyclists.

    To which he had no answer.

    I haven’t ridden the K&A for years, I doubt very much it’s got better, considering the number of people in Bath a couple of days ago who would look straight at me then walk directly across in front of me, in one case almost barging into me, or else would be walking towards me, phone in hand, staring in a completely different direction with no regard to anyone else. Many are tourists and don’t consider that they should be looking out for others, but it seems to be a global problem, like those defacing monuments, killing themselves taking selfies, dissolving themselves walking into hot acid springs in Yellowstone Park…
    And breathe.

    tall_martin
    Full Member

    how risky would it be to park for the night with 4 bikes on the bike rack (Locked obvs)

    100% risky.

    I wouldn’t do that anywhere anyone could see bikes, but absolutely not anywhere in a city.

    I still lock my bike places people can’t jump on the wheels. I moved from Edinburgh to Nottingham for 20 years and my mates take the piss out of me for locking my bike up high.

    Every time I go home to see my folks I see bikes with bent wheels, missing bits, sad frames d locked that everything has been stopped from.

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    BadlyWiredDog
    Full Member

    I didn’t actually do it BWD

    Yes I know that, but the urge is plainly present…

    A halfway house that’ll ease the frustration might be to ride with a long-handled – preferably pink – feather duster. That way you can playfully tickle unsuspecting pedestrians as you pass, while still keeping a safe distance. It’ll maybe satisfy your ‘punishment pass’ urges, without risking any sort of actual collision?

    I look forward to reading the ‘Edinburgh Tickler Rides Again’ headlines in due course.

    You can thank me later 🙂

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    kormoran
    Free Member

    ride with a long-handled – preferably pink – feather duster. That way you can playfully tickle unsuspecting pedestrians as you pass

    (Ken Dodd voice) “What a lovely day to tickle a tourist”

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    A halfway house that’ll ease the frustration might be to ride with a long-handled – preferably pink – feather duster. That way you can playfully tickle unsuspecting pedestrians as you pass,

    Pretty sure you could get an Arts Council grant if you did as a Fringe event!

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