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I think that there are a few of us on here.

I need your help, I'm doing some research (for an MSc Course) into how many monitors software developers use.

If you can spare five minutes or so there is a [url=

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Posted : 26/01/2015 7:20 pm
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Posted : 26/01/2015 7:22 pm
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@Klunk -Thanks - I'm starting to worry that I'm not going to find any single monitor users!


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:26 pm
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the last 2 places I worked (computer games) every programmer and artist used two monitors, sometimes 2 of the huge dell widescreen bad boys.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:28 pm
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Done. Hate coding with 1 monitor!


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:32 pm
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I've got one big one.....used to use dual widescreen for years but prefer a large single.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:34 pm
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Two. A while ago i was the only one with two.....now most us have two. Although am noticing the people edging away from the technical side of things seem happy with 1. Will do the survey in a bit for you.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:43 pm
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@dudeofdoom - Thats really useful I was hoping that there where some large single monitor users out there.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:47 pm
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Three.

Main one is a massive 27 inch 2560x1440 IPS display.

Flanked on each side by a bog standard 1280x1024 TN display.

Side ones get used for reference documents, email, VMs, output monitoring etc.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 7:49 pm
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2. But with windows 10 supporting better window docking and some of big super wide monitors coming to the market, I'd happily have 1 that was as wide as 2 stuck together.


 
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Quick question, does "How many monitors does you computer have?" mean how mean screen are you using in total? ie one on my laptop and one external = 2 ?

Either way, I use 2 in total. Built in 13" screen for reference docs or document/website previews and a large external for actually coding on. I'd probably be happy with 1 if I was on a desktop machine and the monitor had enough real estate.


 
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laptop screen + 1 16?in monitor when in the office.
laptop screen on its own when WFH (which is 80% of the time)

survey done


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:02 pm
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Quick question, does "How many monitors does you computer have?" mean how mean screen are you using in total? ie one on my laptop and one external = 2 ?

Exactly. I have two on development machine but tor run tests I require 5, but across a selection of machiens.


 
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Used to use 2 back in the good old desktop/Matrox days, when resolutions were low(ish) and 2 monitors really made a big difference. Then started working from home on a laptop 10-odd years ago and was too cheap to buy a 2nd monitor. Now I'm mostly in the office, but don't bother with 2.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:13 pm
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All my developers use two.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:15 pm
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@whatnobeer - Exactly right - total number of screens
@TheBrick - thanks for the insight - I hadn't really considered people using an array of computers do you use completely separate machines, remote desktop or a KVM switch to control them?


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:20 pm
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One. Laptop user working from wherever the work is


 
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Two, plus a small USB monitor for server logs.

So, three then.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:23 pm
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No idea why any developer who sits at the same desk every day wouldn't have more than one monitor.
It's not like monitors cost much these days and it makes a massive difference to how effectively I can work.

That said I'm puzzled by people who can work all day on crappy laptop keyboards and touchpads, so maybe I'm just an ergonomics-phile:)


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:34 pm
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2, everyone in our office is on 2.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:38 pm
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3 monitors in our place for front end developers.

Back end guys have 2.

Justification is we tend to need more programs open at same time.

got to admit when the change from 2 to 3 monitors happened it was a bit of a novelty but now couldn't imagine working with any less. Guess its what you get used to.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:43 pm
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One, don't like using two monitors. I suppose they're useful for some stuff, but generally prefer to focus on one thing at a time. Quite happy using a laptop keyboard.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:45 pm
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@GrahamS - I agree, unless you are using one very large screen. I prefer a laptop keyboard as it very thin but I've been able to use a touchpad - much prefer a mouse.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:48 pm
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@GrahamS - I agree, unless you are using one very large screen.

I [i]am[/i] using one very large screen (27 inch 2560x1440). I'm just using two smaller screens as well 🙂


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 8:51 pm
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Done. Developer, one screen (laptop). I like to move around the house quite a bit so don't use a fixed desk.


 
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I'd struggle to get 3 27's on my desk and tbh would never work on a laptop anymore as they are an ergonomic nightmare...but I'm getting on at 47 an been programming for 25 years(nearly got the hang of it mind you) so I'm cranky..


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:00 pm
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I'd ask if people are using iPads or tablets as they are good for email/tech docs.


 
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One laptop 13" monitor - suits me just fine, especially as it's a Retina MacBook. I do have another desktop monitor I could plug in but just don't bother.

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Posted : 26/01/2015 9:05 pm
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By the way the survey seems focussed on two monitors.

One of the questions is something like "Is your main monitor on the right or left?", well neither via I have 3, the main monitor is central.

Likewise the options on how you arrange ide and application also implies two monitors. In fact I'll often be running two IDEs, one application and some comms/hardware monitoring.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:07 pm
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@GrahamS thanks for the feedback - I expected most people to have one or two monitors but I should have allowed for right/left/center


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:11 pm
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One Big monitor for coding on.
No need for 2.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:13 pm
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Two, landscape, same size and have to be lined up as if they were one screen but for some reason I prefer this to one bigger screen. Sometimes I have to use a laptop and external screen but I don't like the screens being different sizes. Pretty much everyone around me is the same set up.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:26 pm
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4

3 is enough


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:32 pm
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2 big uns, one for the ide/debug, the other for google/datsheets etc.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:35 pm
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Survey done. I use 3 and I'd use 4 if my desk were big enough! As a SQL Dev I'm often working across several different servers and more monitors allows me to easy keep each screen to one environment so mistakes are less likely and also makes work much faster.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:36 pm
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Currently on one at work, but that's not my choice. Have always worked with two in the past. Find myself getting muddled up otherwise. Like others, I don't see the sense in using just one when it's so much more productive to have two or three.


 
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@TheBrick - thanks for the insight - I hadn't really considered people using an array of computers do you use completely separate machines, remote desktop or a KVM switch to control them?

I have a keyboard and mouse on each machine that I mainly use but I also have synergy setup with my main machine as the server. It depends what I'm doing if I swap to the computers keyboard / mouse of just flick across using my main keyboard and mouse with synergy.


 
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What size monitor do you use?
15" or less
17"

15.6" is a common laptop size I think...I went for the 15" or less option as the closest.


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 9:59 pm
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@fubar thanks, I did try separate laptop sizes but it looked a mess


 
Posted : 26/01/2015 10:25 pm
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Two, but have used three and would like to again.

Main coding screen is the large one straight ahead, the small one to the left is where I check it works in Chrome.


 
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Currently a coder in training (as you know!), but do a lot of computer work. Photoshop, Illustrator and writing technical documents.

I use 3 monitors and have done for 8 years or so. I now feel very unproductive, with fewer. Being able to have a browser in one window, the main 'software' in the middle (Photoshop, Word etc) and more referencing / technical spec or similar in another side window makes a massive difference.

With Aero Snap (or whatever it's called), with each monitor becoming easily splittable into two, it's even better. Only my middle monitor remains full screen.

I find resolution and size far less important than the number of monitors.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 4:02 am
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Currently down to one and it's painful.....
I'd hook the laptop up and use that but it's not got the power for the current project I'm working on.
Ideally I'd be using 3 as I've generally got a lot open when I'm busy including remotes into cloud stuff etc.
I had 2 previously and at times used the laptop to control the remote stuff, ended up typing and wondering why noting was coming up on the screen....


 
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However many I'm given 🙂

When I had two on one project I didn't know what to do with them. Eclipse didn't make it easy either with only one main window.

I would rather one huge one than two smaller ones tbh.


 
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Two

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@footflaps could I please use your photo in the write up?


 
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Here is mine, sorry it's a bit grainy but you are welcome to use it if it helps:

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Posted : 27/01/2015 9:27 am
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@footflaps could I please use your photo in the write up?

By all means.....

All my photos on Flickr have a Creative Commons License...


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 9:28 am
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I've got a laptop + monitor. I only have the monitor because work gave it to me. All the work is done on the laptop, and the extra (bigger, but same res) screen just gets used for [s]mid-week-mini-movies[/s] chat and documentation.

When I work on my own laptop, I don't bother with the second screen at all and don't miss it either.


 
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All of ICT have 2 screens 1 PC, but our devs have 3 and 2 PCs. They use 2 screens for dev and 1 screen and a separate PC in a user build and login context to ensure they test compatibly and frequently.


 
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Counting monitors gets you a Masters.

FFS talk about academic standards slipping.

😉


 
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a separate PC in a user build and login context to ensure they test compatibly and frequently.

A separate PC?

Have you looked at the wonderful world of virtualisation at all?

Really handy having a testing environment on a virtual machine. Means it is the same for everyone and you can almost instantly return it to a known state.


 
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Hi Graham - yes we have. 95% virtual in server estate. Desktops not cost effective for us to do at last look. Licensing windows desktops in user vms is a massive PITA from a licensing perspective. Plus with good old Micrsoft poised to deliver the shaft to public and third sector it may get much worse.


 
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I think everyone in the company where I work at bar the receptionist has 2 monitors. That's the IT guys, the engineers and the support staff all on 2.


 
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@gwaelod I think that most of the marks are for the statistical analysis of the data - I have to count monitors and say what percentage of people are using multiple monitors 😉

@dragon thanks - useful background I did consider doing a wider survey of habitual computer uses.


 
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Fair enough eatsdirt.

Not sure what it costs us. We use [url= https://www.virtualbox.org/ ]Oracle's VirtualBox[/url] for our desktop VMs, which we use use for development and testing.

VirtualBox itself is free. I assume we must get a decent deal on the OS licenses and tools because we are a Microsoft certified partner. (I'd be surprised if it was hugely expensive because we don't spend money where we don't have to!)


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 10:25 am
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Done. Not really enough space for 2 monitors, so have the laptop hooked to big Apple monitor. Works mostly though sometimes would be useful (VS desktop apps) to have multiple monitors..


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 10:30 am
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Three

Wide screen 23" and a couple of 17"

"What I am doing" in the middle,
"Working from" on right
"How I am doing it" on the left...Not always on


 
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If it helps to elaborate:

I have one laptop (on the left) which is the corporate one that has access to most things and where I have to run my IDE (due to access to SVN, Databases, etc). This runs my laptop and an additional 17" monitor. I'm a java and oracle developer/designer so mainly use Eclipse and TOAD.

I have a linux box which is used for server terminal access and anything else techy, and a bit of web/STW browsing. This just has one 17" monitor.

Both share a keyb + mouse via synergy, which is awesome, been using it for many years and support the project.

Then I have another laptop which is on a different network (emails timesheets, etc) for minimal use (1-2 hours per week) which has an attached monitor, but requires another keyb and mouse due to different network.

All my monitors are 17", and very shit. It's hard to get them replaced, because we are now an outsourced third party (TUPEs suck), and no longer part of the company that used to employ me - all dev employees of the former company have 24" high res monitors and I'd trade all three of mine for one of them. </averagely-paid-developer-problems>


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 11:07 am
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I'd trade all three of mine for one of them.

I got my big one after I said to my company that I wanted a large high spec IPS monitor and I was prepared to pay for it myself if they could put it through the books to avoid the VAT.

It was £250 ex. VAT which seemed like a reasonable investment in my health for something I stare at for 9 hours a day.

In the end they paid for it. Which was nice.


 
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In the end they paid for it. Which was nice.

Sounds like you work for a nice company. I can't imagine who I'd have to talk to, how many forms I'd have to fill in, tickets and I'd have to raise, etc to get something like that sorted.


 
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I have used multiple screens since I discovered that the my debugger would output to a serial terminal. </old school>

My latest computer has a 27" screen (and 5K resolution). After a couple of days I cracked and bought the adapter to run my second monitor as well.


 
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One, I never got used to using two (hate it) but then I can see it as useful if I need to compare 2 bits of code.


 
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I use one. I could use the laptop screen as a second but it's too small and not clear enough to use unless very close. The company won't let us have more than one monitor because they are tight.


 
Posted : 27/01/2015 4:36 pm
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The company won't let us have more than one monitor because they are tight.

That's a maddeningly short-termist attitude. Monitors are cheap, developers are expensive.
If having a second monitor only saves you a couple of hours a year then it'll still easily pay for itself over its lifetime.


 
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Here is a blog post from the dusty days of 2008 that lists some good evidence on the benefits if multi-monitors.

http://blog.codinghorror.com/does-more-than-one-monitor-improve-productivity/

And a couple of others by the same guy:
http://blog.codinghorror.com/multiple-monitors-and-productivity/
http://blog.codinghorror.com/three-monitors-for-every-user/


 
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Two 24 19290x1200 at work, and at home a single 24 1920x1200 and my 17inch 1920x1080 laptop , although it is not quite as good a setup as RDC can't cope with the 2 monitors so my RDC screen is only the 24 but I can RDC to my spare machine at work on the other, or open documents on it.

(the 1200 bit is important - 16:10 is a lot nicer to work with that 16:9).

When we moved office work wanted the developers to have All-In-One PCs as they looked neater and one of the directors is an apple fan.

I persuaded them otherwise and that we could have the very small HP machines under the desk and a single 27inch monitor (2560x1200).

We got one in to test, but the tester didn't like the single screen - so we kept the 2.

I did find that Visual Studio still made a mess of debugging UI code sometimes with the single monitor - it didn't redraw the screen properly when a breakpoint was hit, which could be problematic.


 
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Thank you all very much for your help.

@GrahamS thanks, I've allready defences Jeff and Joel. Its funny there are a few papers on productivity and multiple monitors but not many that specifically looked at software.


 
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Don't do much dev work anymore but still like a couple of monitors. Now usually it's a 2560x1440 27" and a laptop (sometimes a hateful 15" customer laptop and sometimes my own 17".) Resolution is everything on a big screen, tempted by a 5k now.

Do make a lot of use of virtual desktops on the big screen too, swiping between them on a mac trackpad works really well. Keeps things reasonably organised.


 
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2 x 27" bad boys, really struggle working from home on one now.

Licensing windows desktops in user vms is a massive PITA from a licensing perspective

If you're on software assurance, look into using Hyper-V (it's not bad on 2012R2) as it simplifies licensing dramatically, and MS make it cheaper for you if you use their stack end to end (as do Oracle). If I remember right, you get a VDA licence with your desktop OS license through SA, and you KMS activate your VM guests (which your physical ones probably already do). Think you can use MAK keys to but I don't know many people who do anymore.


 
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Not a dev but I do like a screen or two....or err hmm 3 22" 1920's, at work. 😀
They were inherited a few years ago from an old business partner who had a PC to display his stocks realtime on a wall display. Did his best citytrader impression for a few years(including the coke n whores....in the office) then left in a blaze of glory one day declaring he'll never work again.

At home its down from 2 purely as the PC moved so its a 27" 2540x1440. Lovely bit of kit but I'm starting to get torn between 5k and superwidescreen, possibly even curved. I do game quite a bit.


 
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At work I used 2 x 24 inch desktop monitors, at home it's a 13 inch laptop and an old desktop with a 22 inch monitor.

On the Eclipse / multi-monitor support thing, I un-dock some of the panels and put them on the second desktop. Eclipse remembers their position relative to the main screen between start-ups. That works really well for the (cluttered) debug view, JUnit panels and 'show hierarchy' panel.

All my development is Linux / JVM based, so I rely heavily on Vagrant for testing purposes.


 
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