He did it on purpose IMO but I just can’t see how they can prove it beyond reasonable doubt especially given how the first officer on scene has since been found guilty of being as bent as a nine bob note. Should go to prison just for shooting blindly at an unidentified target. Whole different ballgame if it was a manslaughter charge.Posted 3 years agostumpyjonSubscriber
If I was the judge his histeronics would not being helping his case. I think he’s genuinely distressed but i think that just shows how wrapped up in himself he is. He killed someone without justification, the fact it was his girl friend just makes it even less justifiable. He should have waited, blindly shooting through the door was never going to end well.Posted 3 years agomolgripsSubscriber
I thought maybe one too many hard man fantasies.. intoxicated by guns… Desperate for a burglar to shoot. People hear what they want to hear…
Of course, even he admits he killed someone without justification – what he’s trying to say is that he didn’t actually intend to kill his girlfriend.
A pretty f**ked up man though. Did anyone do a drug test on his hair etc?Posted 3 years agomolgripsSubscriber
So, I at first thought he was guilty as charged, but now I’m not so sure. Sounding like a case of itchy trigger finger rather than actual murder. Not sure what difference it makes in terms of the crime though – not sure if you can be convicted of manslaughter if you escape murder in SA.Posted 3 years agowartonMember
he said he woke up, went outside onto the balcony, to move a fan, and then heard a noise and told the gf to phone the police. no answer. then went to the bathroom and just unloaded into a door, no warning, nothing. sorry but thats bullshit. Anyone would consult with their partner about if they heard a noise, and what they should do, so if he asked her to call the cops, wouldn’t he wait to get an answer? and wouldn’t he have seen she wasn’t there when he got out of bed, went out, came back in etc etc…
he murdered her, open and shut case IMO.Posted 3 years agothejesmonddingoMember
I dont get this,if I was in bed in an ensuite with a longterm girlfriend,and heard noises from the bathroom,the first thing I’d do is nudge the partner and say “Did you hear that?” If they weren’t there,I’d assume they were in the bathroom,so going in gun blazing looks distinctly iffy IMHOPosted 3 years agoavdave2Member
A spoiled little brat who believes the world revolves around him who had a tantrum and thought he’d teach her a lesson . So full of himself, just look at his reaction to getting well beaten at the London games – if you beat me you must have been cheating and no one’s going to take me out of the spotlight. And now like the little boy he really is he can’t face up to what he did, probably actually now believes what he’s saying in court.Posted 3 years agoteaselMember
Should go to prison just for shooting blindly at an unidentified target
Not sure about the prison part but, to me at least, anyone that shoots without knowing what they’re shooting at has exposed themselves as, well, not sure really.
Definitely shouldn’t own a firearm…Posted 3 years agoloddrikMember
Prosecutor had him in knots today. The line that stood out for me was the prosecutor saying to him after a line of questioning
“So you accidentally shot at the intruders..?” Pistorious got himself to this point btw after he said he had not meant to fire his gun and admitting he was shooting at intruders.
Genius, he’s got him.Posted 3 years agobikebouyMember
Tricky this, you know not being there and all that.
Having listened to all the “evidence” and soundbites that Sky/BBC report I have formed an “informed” opinion. That opinion is this:Posted 3 years ago
Having had a blazing row with her over something quite incidental, he wouldn’t let it lie and it erupted into a stinking bost up. His temper go the better of him, she ran for cover into the Loo and he was so enraged that he offloaded a few rounds of bullets, designed to frighten the shit out of her, however she was unfortunately in the way of those bullets.
I get the impression that his modus was to frighten, however knowing bullets can kill he had the motive to at least hurt/threaten and therein lies the rub.
Motive, outcome, manslaughter IMO.
Remorse, yup I think he has buckets of it, can’t think what he’ll get if found guilty but spending a large proportion of his time in prison isn’t what he had in mind, nor trained for. It’ll kill him.somewhatslightlydazedMember
He put four shots through a closed door with the intention of killing the person behind it.
There was no immediate threat to his own safety (they were hiding behind a closed door, not coming at him with a knife)
It doesn’t matter if he killed a burglar on purpose or his girlfriend by accident. He intended to kill someone and a claim self defence isn’t very convincing.
I think under English law he would be guilty of murder in both cases.
I suppose South African law is different?Posted 3 years agoBlackhoundSubscriber
My only source is BBC news like others and not heard all the evidence. But I reckon he lost his rag over something and wasted her, perhaps accidentally. I think he is remorseful in the cold light of day, just his temper got the better of him. Don’t think it was pre determined murder but might be manslaughter over here. Don’t know how SA courts deal with this.Posted 3 years agojkomoMember
If you were going to fire a gun, you’d make damn sure your loved ones were safe first.Posted 3 years ago
Surely if you had a gun in the house you’d have had a mental run through about what circumstances you’d fire it.
Through a closed door, not knowing where everyone else in the family is first is an absurd defence.natrixMember
We need to bear in mind that South Africans have a completely different outlook to both guns and burglary than we do. Shooting a burglar is a lot more acceptable there than it would be here.
Regardless of my personal opinion, I haven’t heard any evidence so far that convinces me beyond all reasonable doubt that he knowingly intended to kill his girlfriend.Posted 3 years agogeoffjSubscriber
Marina Hyde has it abought right – http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/14/marina-hyde-oscar-pistorius-vomitingPosted 3 years ago
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