Ahead of the local elections in May, this just dropped through the door
Newsnight the other night were saying that this is being rushed in without sufficient planning and reporting that some councils are requesting a police presence at polling stations in anticipation of people kicking off when being told they can’t vote.
Its also been pointed out that this is a ‘solution’ to a problem that doesn’t exist, as voter fraud simply isn’t an issue in this country
I can’t see this as anything other than a corruption of democracy by the Tory’s in an attempt to pervert the electoral process in their favour. For example you can use an Oyster card as ID, but only an over 60’s Oyster card. Why would that be then?
Long overdue. Should cut down on voter fraud in certain areas.
These “certain areas”, is that where you live and do you want to admit a crime?
FWIW I’ve voted for 40 years now and not once has anyone used my vote, any of my family or friends (because it’d certainly be a story to tell) or have I ever heard of an issue anywhere I’ve ever lived.
@daveylad you mean the “widespread” voter fraud that the proponents of this scheme can’t show evidence for while the implementation of this scheme will disenfranchise a far greater number of people (evidence for this has been shown).
This isn’t about stopping voter fraud, this is about (non-tory) voter suppression.
Completely unnecessary.
It’s been well publicised but there will be some who say…news to me.
If FB, twitter and some bloke down the pub are your news sources…
Completely unnecessary.
It’s been well publicised but there will be some who say…news to me.
If FB, twitter and some bloke down the pub are your news sources…
chvck – your comment about daveylad is right; piss poor troll – another on the ‘ignore’ list.
IIRC there’s more electoral fraud convictions and cautions for the candidates and their organisations (several thousand people involved) than the electorate (near as dammit 50 million people).
yep.. another barrier for against people to vote.. only for those that can drive or go on holiday can. Suprised they arent also asking for deeds on property as evidence too. That should win them the election.
I like @daveylad’s posts. They remind me why I no longer use Facebook or Twitter. Unusual that they post their moronic shit here, but I guess we all need a hobby.
Photo ID is so last century, I would expect nothing less than a retina scan in my village hall before being allowed my excercise democratic right to marginally and pointlessly chip away at the massive Tory majority of my local MP’s safe seat.
Except they do, the parties all send representatives to the polling stations and counts. There are also independent checkers. And also all this stuff is stuck in a big data machine by people more clever than me. And none of those three sets of checks have ever come up with any major fraud!
One thing we can do is help people who don’t have ID to get it.
I work at a local drop-in centre and we’ll be asking everyone who comes in if they have photo ID or need help with getting a voter ID document if they don’t – we have one month and people need to be registered to vote to begin with
If you don’t have accepted photo ID, you can apply for a free voter ID document, which is known as a Voter Authority Certificate.
The deadline to apply for a Voter Authority Certificate for the local elections in England on 4 May 2023 is 5pm on Tuesday 25 April 2023.
I’m not much of a facebook or twitter user and maybe tiktok reaches more young people anyway but hopefully this is already getting shared, it’s worth sharing widely.
One thing we can do is help people who don’t have ID to get it.
I work at a local drop-in centre and we’ll be asking everyone who comes in if they have photo ID or need help with getting a voter ID document if they don’t – we have one month and people need to be registered to vote to begin with
If you don’t have accepted photo ID, you can apply for a free voter ID document, which is known as a Voter Authority Certificate.
The deadline to apply for a Voter Authority Certificate for the local elections in England on 4 May 2023 is 5pm on Tuesday 25 April 2023.
I’m not much of a facebook or twitter user and maybe tiktok reaches more young people anyway but hopefully this is already getting shared, it’s worth sharing widely.
This is a good point, I’ve just stuck it on our local Facebook group
Has anything been said what will happen if turnout is massively down on average? Or will we turn a blind eye to that fraud?
Thats the aim of it so nothing will be done. I doubt we will see a massive drop but it will have a disproportionate effect on young, urban, lower income folk ie labour voters
@jameso thanks for that i have just applied for the voter id now (no current driver license or passport) i definitely want to vote against the tories at any opportunity.
Its common in many other countries – I don’t see it being a problem.
In fact, it might bite the Conservatives in the ass because many older voters don’t have in-date passports, photo ID, or even know what time of day it is.
Imagine Mrs B. Racist turning up to the polling station on a cold and rainy day and being turned away. “I’m not bloody getting the bus all the way home to pick up my passport!”
Imagine Mrs B. Racist turning up to the polling station on a cold and rainy day and being turned away. “I’m not bloody getting the bus all the way home to pick up my passport!”
But this is the problem, passport or not – old Mrs B.Racist will still likely be able to vote with their bus pass. Worse still, younger voters with a similar travel cards can’t use them to vote.