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Peugeot 1.5 BlueHDi & AdBlue?
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dogboneFull Member
We are looking at buying a Peugeot Rifter 1.5 BlueHDi 130 but are hearing horror stories regarding the AdBlue system on these. The last three I’ve seen the detailed service history for had some work done to the AdBlue system.
Is it really that much of a problem or just people with issues being more vocal? I had an Audi which had all sorts of AdBlue error codes comes up just because it ran low of the stuff.
There are a lot less of the petrol versions about and I’d rather have the 130 power version.
maccruiskeenFull MemberI’ve been looking at the same model / engine – so interested also.
I might be right thinking that the issue could be as simple as a vented cap for the adblu tank (or lack of it originally) and faults / failures being the result of the the pump having to work too hard. The caps should have been replaced by a recall and later models should have them as standard
I don’t know if you’d know the correct cap by looking at it though
dogboneFull MemberThe ones I’ve seen are ex-mobility ones (no ramp). Serviced by main dealer who love to replace everything without much regard to what the problem was.
droplinkedFull MemberA colleague has been having issues with the adblue pump/tank. Same engine.
He had one pump and tank replaced a year ago, and now the replacement has just failed again. Citroen main dealer. Genuine parts.
TroutWrestlerFree MemberAlso be aware of the cam chain issue. Pre March 2023 these engines were fitted with a 7mm cam chain that wears, then fails.
Post march 2023 the top end of the engine has been redesigned with an 8mm chain, but the camshafts and camshaft cover are different too.
There have been a number of oil specification changes. Currently pre March 23 models should use a 5w30 oil to specification Stellantis FPW9.55535/03 This is a very specific oil, formulated to address the chain wear issue. It is hard to get, I had to import mine from France.
To have any hope of help from the manufacturer, you will have to demonstrate absolute, the the letter, by the book, service history.
fossyFull MemberWasn’t it someone on here using the Crystal protect stuff which sorted out an ad-blue light.
I’m looking at a Rifter or the larger Traveller with the 2.0 HDI. Similar ad-blu issues I believe, but lots of vehicles have issues with problems.
lukeFree MemberThe wife had a 2021 C5 aircross which I think has the same engine, the adblue pump went and the car was off the road for a long period, circa 6 weeks which was a pain.
She’s swapped it for something different now.
anderzzFree MemberI had a citroen cactus and it threw up the adblue urea fault. I realised mine didn’t have a vented cap and I was convinced it was going to be a new tank job.
Before going down that route I changed the nox sensor and that fixed the fault.
Funnily enough I’m also looking at rifters and particularly the 130hp.
dogboneFull MemberMy wife is Spanish and has been looking on the Spanish car forums. It’s full of similar stories regarding the AdBlue.
We are looking at petrol engines now, which given our milage probably makes more sense.
fossyFull MemberWhat ever I get will sit on the drive all week and will be used for longer trips at weekends (leasure vehicle), but my issue will be the ad-blu will be quite old as I’m unlikely to do more than 5k a year these days. The Rifter Long GT line is what I’d like.
mtbfixFull MemberWe’ve had one of these for the last 18 months and, without wishing to tempt fate, it’s been fine so far. Though this reminds me that the ad blue needs topping up.
TroutWrestlerFree MemberMine is a 2021 Combo. I kind of wish I had the XL one. I actually wish I had an electric one with a 400 mile range…
Mime is also 101 bhp, and I was looking at a remap or a TDi Tuning box as it is a bit sluggish.
FB-ATBFull MemberWhat age are you looking at? I had a 2014 308SW 1.5 blue hdi from new and put 90,000 miles on it for in 3 years with no issues (apart from having to top up the ad blue regularly).
unlikely to do more than 5k a year these days
Sound like a case for petrol rather than diesel.
WallyFull MemberRifter Long GT line owner here in 1.2 Petrol style. Wetbelt being changed in 4 weeks, at 5 years old. Under 6k a year.
robidoFree MemberSimple get ad blue delete sorted. Plenty of companies doing it. Had mine done at my local dealer 3 years ago never had a problem since
marcg868Free MemberGot two of the 1.5 hdi’s in the Family a 2020 508 and Step Daughters 2020 3008 both been nice and reliable pounding up and down the motorway for the past three years. Never had an issue. Serviced at Peugeot with a service plan every year.
I had a 1.2 Puretech 1.2 110 bhp which had been in the family (My cousins) since new till I got it 2 years ago. Belt changed at 60k and I put another 20k on it before it got sent to Car heaven by a Van in January.
You can open the oil fill cap on the pure techs to give the belt a quick visual check.Change the Oil every 9,000 miles rather than what the service light says and use the Correct manufacturer recommended oil. And they are fine, not as reliable as a VAG Tsi or Renaults Tce engines but more reliable than Ford ecoboosts. Newer 2023 Puretech use a chain.
WallyFull MemberI got a 2.0HDI Escapade ( raised a little and a sump sheet) to 170k. Pokey grunty little van- must be fun with the remap
winryaFree MemberI had the 1.5 130bhp in my 2019 partner van which I ran from new until I sold 6 months ago with 60k miles and it never missed a beat
RustyNissanPrairieFull Member“I got a 2.0HDI Escapade ( raised a little and a sump sheet) to 170k. Pokey grunty little van- must be fun with the remap”
Mines an Escapade as well, stage1 remap is 127bhp, fancy Brembo discs and pads and a few polybushes. Its great fun and been a super useful dirt cheap to run bike/doggo carrier. Pity PSA engines have gone a bit rubbish after their great bulletproof engines like the 2.0Hdi
WaderiderFree MemberWe’re having problems with these in the work fleet. Two vans out of not that many where the dealer is struggling to fix adblue system problems.
teaandbiscuitsFree Member> robido
> Simple get ad blue delete sorted. Plenty of companies doing it. Had mine done at my local dealer 3 years ago never had a problem sinceI found this online: “Deleting and removing Adblue from a vehicle will deem it illegal for road use and can fail an M.O.T. ” Is this not the case?
thisisnotaspoonFree MemberI found this online: “Deleting and removing Adblue from a vehicle will deem it illegal for road use and can fail an M.O.T. ” Is this not the case?
It’s a bit like large scale government corruption and betting on the date of the election you’re about to call really. Only illegal if you get caught. Otherwise it’s just getting one over on the man in the street.
Personally I’d not touch a 2nd car where it had been removed, a) it tells you something about the owners reluctance to fix problems, b) there’s nothing stopping the government bringing in a NOx test at the MOT to catch EGR/AdBlue deletes at which point it’s an even more expensive problem to reverse it, c) polluting the air everyone else has to breathe more than absolutely necessary is a violation of rule #1.
grimepFree MemberNightmare trying to choose a new vehicle these days. You decide on a model that meets your requirements, then try to choose an engine.. would sir care for the diesel that is wrapped up in umpteen different emissions reducing devices that will inevitably go to $h1t and cost a fortune to fix? or perhaps sir is seduced by the 3 cylinder 1.0 highly stressed turbocharged petrol with a cambelt slowly being eaten by engine oil, with gasoline direct injection which is guaranteed to gum up the intake ports with gooey carbon deposits? No? Then how about the 1.8 petrol hybrid? An underpowered badly tuned engine and the maintenance complications of a hybrid drivetrain and parts. Great when it’s new and works but good luck with the bills when it’s racked up the miles…
maccruiskeenFull MemberMaybe this thread won’t yield the answer as it Peugeot rather than ford in the title…. I’ve been swithering between the stellantis Berlingo/Partner or whatever half dozen other badges its sold with, and the Ford Connect – the 2nd gen version not the latest VW/Ford colab.
The Connect has the same engine as the Partner does that mean it has the same adblue system with the same foibles and the issue are common amongst alls the marques using the engine? – or is that particular to Peugeot/Citroen’s particular application of the engine / emissions system?
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