Pavement parkers

If you can push a double buggy with two small children and some shopping up the 25% gradient from the town centre without having a heart attack I’ll sell my car 😂

Christ how did any of us / our parents survive as kids?!
That was NORMAL only 50 years ago.

I walked to school more or less every single day from the age of 5 to the age of 18 – now apparently that same journey requires a 2 tonnes of car?!

The more important question is this: where am I going to park the trailer for my battleship if I can’t park it on the pavement?

Its a battleship. It can create its own parking space!

If you can push a double buggy with two small children and some shopping up the 25% gradient from the town centre to our house, without having a heart attack

So you’re saying it’s OK to park on your particular pavement because of its gradient. What about all the other streets near you? What would you want to happen there?

In a narrow street I lived in in London the pavement was marked up for parking. Not ideal – it left a too-narrow pavement – but at least it formalises the situation. I’d have them do that on your streets so that in that special situation you can carry on parking as you have done.

But let’s get the national law banning pavement parking except where explicitly allowed in ASAP before we’re completely out of control (which I think we nearly are already).

The developer will promise a bike lane which will get progressively watered down until it’s little more than a dark alleyway which rapidly accrues dog shit and needles and broken glass and no cyclist would ever use.

Or they do as promised and build that bike lane, although do it very, very badly…

I walked to school more or less every single day from the age of 5 to the age of 18 – now apparently that same journey requires a 2 tonnes of car?!

don’t waste your breath trying to explain this to a millennial snowflake, he’d sooner have you up in court at The Hague charged with violating his human rights by making him walk 2 mins 😉

Ok next question, for those that think the highway code is law. If I can’t park over a dropped kerb is that true for the dropped kerb outside my house if it’s my car I’m parking?<!–more–>

If I can’t park over a dropped kerb is that true for the dropped kerb outside my house if it’s my car I’m parking?

Yes, you can be fined for exactly that. Many have been. Dropped kerbs need to be kept accessible for all users, regardless of whether it was put in for your driveway.

This is a catch-22 though. New builds are supposed to be incentivising a lower-car lifestyle, they’re supposed to be considered alongside facilities (shops, schools, Dr, etc) and they’re supposed to be integrated into local transport measures (bus, tram etc) and to provide active travel infrastructure while also discouraging rampant car ownership.

Valid point but we’re a relatively small village with a crap bus service into Leicester or [shudders] Coalville.

Yes, you can be fined for exactly that. Many have been. Dropped kerbs need to be kept accessible for all users, regardless of whether it was put in for your driveway.

I’ll have to just park on the pavement then and hope no one sees me drive onto it!

Nobody is going to be pushing a double buggy or a wheelchair up there, believe me!

Mrs_oab replies by pushing up her sleeves and stretching her calves…. 😂😂😂

The problem with scratching the **** out of cars parked on the pavement is that the owners don’t realise they’ve been scratched because they were parked on the pavement…

It works in the netherlands.

the owners don’t realise they’ve been scratched because they were parked on the pavement

The system round here is to lift the wipers. Often see it on badly parked cars. Again may not be totally obvious to the driver but they’ll know their car has been touched which many drivers seem to hate. I’ll often fold a wing mirror in. Should be reasonably obvious why that has happened.

The system round here is to lift the wipers.

I’ll often fold a wing mirror in.

I usually hang a dog poo bag on the wing mirror.

and how often do you reckon I get to park within 200 yards of my house? You really don’t get this at all, so you?

I do having lived in such a street in the past and I would have to walk 500m or further (shock horror) to avoid inconveniencing others or getting a ticket. Also lived on a steep hill, one of the steepest in the town and similar to your street and we managed a double inline buggy every weekday.

There really is no excuse for pavement parking.

I’ll often fold a wing mirror in.

Ah, but those entitled to pavement park have autofolding mirrors that go in when the car is locked….. 😂

I do having lived in such a street in the past and I would have to walk 500m or further (shock horror) to avoid inconveniencing others or getting a ticket. Also lived on a steep hill, one of the steepest in the town and similar to your street and we managed a double inline buggy every weekday

Did you move from there to a cardboard box on the hard shoulder of the M6, live on a diet of gravel and work 26 hours a day? 🙄

Yer road is not even that steep 🙂  when I were a lad………..

Did you move from there to a cardboard box on the hard shoulder of the M6, live on a diet of gravel and work 26 hours a day?

M6 hard shoulder and a cardboard box! Well hello Mr Fancy Pants. Central reservations on the M62 just outside of Saddleworth and a Greggs steak bake wrapper for a sleeping bag.

Shame – have to park further away then

To be fair to Binners, i used to live in a town much like that. Lots of small, narrow (many cobbled) streets with reasonably sized pavements. The little bit i lived in, the roads across the hillside were just about wide enough for two cars to pass each other, the roads going up/down the hill side weren’t ever designed for cars. Just delivery carts. Going one way. Car have got a shed load bigger since then.

Nearest place to park, without being a dick and obstructing the roads or pavements, other than finding a spot on a quiet road going across the hillside, was about a mile and a half away. And that was a pay and display.

You’d also struggle to “bump up the kerb” as they were mostly massive stone slabs, 6-8″ thick.

I didn’t have a car though, so i didn’t care much.

I prefer the system in Sweden, unless it’s explicitly stated “you can park here”, you can’t. And the police issue the tickets, as do some private parking companies. So anyone being naughty for more than a short period of time will get a ticket, minimum is about 50 quid where i am. Up to about 80 quid.

I must admit that I was probably the most sceptical person around regarding the likely success in the implementation of Scottish Government’s anti pavement laws. But I was wrong – it has on the whole worked exceptionally well. Streets that were once impossible to walk on without either squeezing past vehicles, or moving on and off the pavement, are now free to walk along. What a joy.

I just spent a few days in Marseille – they could do with implementing the same there, it was grim.

If you can push a double buggy with two small children and some shopping up the 25% gradient from the town centre to our house, without having a heart attack, I’ll sell my car 😂

How much shopping. Might be worth it to see you sell your car. 😉

@gauss1777

Fair play for coming back and saying so.

I’ve just had a weekend in Dumfries and Galloway, and it’s still got a lot of 30 zones. Feels like everything is coming at you too fast and 20mph is just *nicer* for all.
I’ve then just walked into Carlisle station and cannot get my head around some of the pavement parking. Blocking, squeezed on and forcing pedestrians to squeeze between house/shop or onto a city centre road.

More 20mph and less pavement parking would be great thing for all of us.

the implementation of Scottish Government’s anti pavement laws. But I was wrong – it has on the whole worked exceptionally well.

Well, that’s good news and well done to the SNP and the councils that enforce it.

Friday morning walking, I’m following a lady into town. Outside an MOT garage a delivery driver has parked sideways on the full pavement, this lady and I are forced onto the uneven garage forecourt. This is all slightly downhill. She trips over a small lump of concrete and with momentum falls onto her chest. I ran and tried to help, the van driver runs out and doesn’t really do anything, within a minute she’s able to sit up, she’s covered in dust and dirt from her face right down to her feet. The garage owner was great and took her to get cleaned up. No injury but it could have been so much worse. Rightly or wrongly I told the driver that this was his fault and he should have parked on the forecourt. Something needs to change.

the implementation of Scottish Government’s anti pavement laws. But I was wrong – it has on the whole worked exceptionally well.
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Well, that’s good news and well done to the SNP and the councils that enforce it.

Aye – its good.

Round my way its also been done by marking roads so parking spaces are obvious and making you pay 8-5 mon friday for parking.  But a definite change round here.

I’ve just had a weekend in Dumfries and Galloway, and it’s still got a lot of 30 zones. Feels like everything is coming at you too fast and 20mph is just *nicer* for all.
I’ve then just walked into Carlisle station and cannot get my head around some of the pavement parking. Blocking, squeezed on and forcing pedestrians to squeeze between house/shop or onto a city centre road.

More 20mph and less pavement parking would be great thing for all of us.

The whole of my town (Ottery St Mary in Devon) is going to 20mph in a couple of months. Can’t come soon enough, as people drive like idiots around town. I know it doesn’t cure all the issues, but if most people adhere to it it slows everyone down.

At a Brownie and Guides fete yesterday I  had to sit and listen to a couple of bell-ends at a table next to us moaning and going on and on (and on!) about it. I very nearly gave them a piece of my mind, but my wife’s death stare stopped me 😆

The thing is with the dickish delivery van park g is if they didn’t they’d not meet the targets. The delivery company is the one that should take the blame but instead they will just dock the workers wages of any fines.

No pavement parking but the parcel box for our industrial estate has a layby but over the last 2 months the workers in a nearby unit have been parking in it instead of in their car park because it’s closer. Their wipers gets lifted up every day when I then have to parkup on the road to drop off parcels.

My sons a wheelchair user for out and about-  he’s asked for some of the spinners that are on James Bond’s car to deal with pavement parkers