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  • organ donation – are you registered?
  • Gooner
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    i'm not at the moment and don't really know why
    i am a regular blood donar (about 80 to date) but i am not a registered organ donar

    is there any reason why i should n't?

    who does and who doesn't and why?

    thanks

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    They can have everything but my eyes.

    Jamie
    Free Member

    Donate my organs?!?! Over my dead body!

    carlosg
    Free Member

    I'm not sure if it's been changed but it used to be that regardless of being registered or not they still have to ask your next of kin if they can use your organs for transplant.

    I am registered and all my family understand that I wish to donate any/all of my organs in the event of them being useful to someone after my death , after all I won't need them anymore and if they can give another person the chance of a better life why not?

    doctornickriviera
    Free Member

    Yes.

    I have also been at the sharp end of losing a close relative in tragic circs and going through the discussions with the family , some of whom didnt want to donate her organs even though she was registered.

    The question is – would you take an organ if you needed it? If it is yes you should register.

    doctornickriviera
    Free Member

    And yes they do have to get consent of next of kin before donation as i found out last year

    timraven
    Full Member

    Yep,no reason not to far as I can see. As has been said they'll be no use to me and I think if they're all usable then you could change over 20 peoples lives when you're done. Just make sure you inform your next of kin.

    LsD
    Free Member

    DONOR!!!!

    ffs 😡

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Me? With my non helmet wearing? Of course I am. 🙂

    OldGitSurrey
    Free Member

    There are some ungrateful people out there!

    I regularly offer to donate one of my organs to young ladies in the pub but their lack of gratitude is apalling! 🙄

    Kuco
    Full Member

    Can have what they want then chuck the rest as far as I'm concerned.

    djglover
    Free Member

    I want to put my organ in cider

    Sponging-Machine
    Free Member

    Everything including my eyes. Anything else is just sentimentality. Having said that though, I'm not sure I'd be in favour of compulsory donation.

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    I'm an Organ Donna.

    In the event of my death, the local kebab shop may harvest my organs, to be ground up for a new "elephant leg". Though I have ticked the "No Salad" option.

    bananaworld
    Free Member

    I heard that in order to recycle some of your organs they have to harvest them before you're actually dead.

    Yeah.

    cranberry
    Free Member

    Been registered since I was 16. The way I see it, when I pop my clogs there are 3 possible outcomes for my organs:

    1. Worm food
    2. BBQ
    3. Helping someone else live/have a better quality of life.

    It never seemed like a difficult decision for me.

    coffeeking
    Free Member

    I think the main concerns for those who dont are:

    Religion
    Distress to others in family
    Organs going to murderers etc
    Doctors putting in less effort to save you (from a coma etc) if they think that you can help the sprog in the next ward etc.

    I'm sure different people put them in different orders.

    I'm in favour of an opt-out system, it makes far more sense. If you're that attached to your organs you should carry something to say so, otherwise you help others.

    I'm not registered, but my family know I would donate – I wonder how that works if the time came? Do they ask anyway?

    jon1973
    Free Member

    I regularly offer to donate one of my organs to young ladies in the pub but their lack of gratitude is apalling!

    I guess they're after an organ that will actually imporve their quality of life. 😆

    didmatt
    Free Member

    Im registered too, I see it as they are no use to me when im gone so they might as well help someone. Also registered as a bone marrow donar too.

    coffeeking
    Free Member

    bone marrow donar

    Grrrrr!

    samuri
    Free Member

    ooh thanks for reminding me.

    https://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/ukt/RegistrationForm.do

    edit: Blimey, that was easy and quick. Go on people, do it. You won't need your bits once you're dead. Neither will your family so give 'em a kicking and make sure they know what you want. Tie it into your will if you think any of them will go religious on you and try and stop the process.

    woody2000
    Full Member

    Yup, no reason not to.

    coffeeking – get signed up, much less hassle all round if you do. Time's of the essence with organ donation, and if you're not registered, your family can object and the donation won't happen.

    doctornickriviera
    Free Member

    "Doctors putting in less effort to save you (from a coma etc) if they think that you can help the sprog in the next ward etc"

    utter shite, theres more to it than whipping yours out and puting it in the guy next door. that's an insult to my profession
    In brain death brainstem testing has to be carried out before organ donation can proceed, and the family can always ask for 3rd and 4th testing etc.

    coffeeking
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    nick – sure it's an insult, but you can't blame people for thinking it. And brainstem testing only really factors in at the end, if you're noted as a donor beforehand people may fear less effort would be put in to prevent you from getting to a brain dead situation. I'm well aware there's more to it than that, but these are the genuine fears of people I've spoken to about it. I blame Holby! 😀

    Time's of the essence with organ donation, and if you're not registered, your family can object and the donation won't happen.

    Though they can object anyway (which seems very wrong).

    samuri
    Free Member

    "Doctors putting in less effort to save you (from a coma etc) if they think that you can help the sprog in the next ward etc"

    Even if it were true, is it such a terrible thing?

    mastiles_fanylion
    Free Member

    They can have everything but my eyes.

    I had an ex who said the same. But really, why on earth can they not have the eyes of a dead body?

    I am registered (plastic card only – must do it online too) and all my family know of my wishes. Medical science is welcome to anything they find useful.

    EDIT: Registered online – that was so easy.

    (Waits for the knock on the door 'we've come for your kidney' – a la Monty Python). 🙂

    simon_g
    Full Member

    Donor card since 13 (still have it somewhere, don't feel the need to carry it), and ticked the box to be put on the register when I got my provisional licence at 17.

    Next of kin all know my wishes too – I really won't care what happens to my body after I'm dead so any benefit it can bring is a good thing.

    crikey
    Free Member

    "Doctors putting in less effort to save you (from a coma etc) if they think that you can help the sprog in the next ward etc"

    I'm offended by this too.

    Organ donation goes ahead in two circumstances;

    1. Heart beating donation; this is when you have been declared brain-dead by two seperate brain-stem death tests. Just to spell this out a bit more; that's when your brain no longer works to control your basic body functions like breathing. Causes of this state can be massive head trauma or major cerebral bleeding.

    In other words, you are dead, but your heart is still pumping blood around your body.

    2. Non-heart beating donation; this is rather newer, but essentially involves waiting for you to die, then taking you to theatre quickly to allow organ donation.

    In neither case is there any attempt made to 'hurry things along', and no attempt made to provide less care because you may be a potential donor.

    In many ways, it's far easier for everyone if you are not a donor; it's a major undertaking, and a difficult, stressful ballache to go through the whole setup, but it's worth it because it helps to save other peoples lives.

    PeterPoddy
    Free Member

    Yeah, I'm registered. And I've mentioned it to Mrs PP too. SOmthing along the lines of "If they can use any of me after I'm dead and you don't let them, I'm coming back to haunt you." 🙂

    woody2000
    Full Member

    ck – they can still object, but "legally" your organs can still be taken (if you've registered).

    crikey
    Free Member

    ck – they can still object, but "legally" your organs can still be taken (if you've registered).

    In practice this never actually happens; the key point in organ donation is gaining permission from the next of kin, and that's the bit that has to be done carefully, compassionately and sensibly.

    coffeeking
    Free Member

    Even if it were true, is it such a terrible thing?

    Yes, unless you're going to start deciding who is more worthy.

    In neither case is there any attempt made to 'hurry things along', and no attempt made to provide less care because you may be a potential donor.

    Of course not, and I'd hope not! But then you're going to say that. (playing devils advocate, I'm on your side really).

    But you really shouldn't be offended/insulted I suppose, you'd be prioritising the use of the organs – person A is dying and unlikely to survive, person B needs it and has a good chance of survival – makes sense to prioritise those who have more hope. But maybe not a moral judgement. Medical docs fall into a strange quandry of needing to follow logic and probabilities but also having to account for everyones right to a chance to pull through.

    woody2000
    Full Member

    I know crikey, hence the "". I just think it's better to be signed up, and make it absolutely clear to your NOK that it's what you want.

    crikey
    Free Member

    Medical docs fall into a strange quandry of needing to follow logic and probabilities but also having to account for everyones right to a chance to pull through

    This is one of the reasons that the care of potential donors and the actual donation/transplant are totally seperate.

    The care of the patient in hospital is done by the hospital team. If the condition of the patient is such that organ donation may be a possible outcome, we call in the transplant co-ordinator; a seperate person from outside the hospital.

    Once brain stem testing is done, and this would be done anyway, regardless of the donation issue, then the transplant team become involved, but ONLY WITH THE CONSENT OF THE NEXT-OF-KIN.

    This means that there is less likelyhood of any conflict of interest, and should help to reduce the fear of one team killing folk off to get to their organs.

    Junkyard
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    If you have an organ donation you CANNOT give blood or donate your own organs. I used to be a registered Donor and give blood up until the point of my transplant.
    To the person I will never know I thank you for your gift.

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    But I want to be a zombie when I'm dead. Always wanted to get a job as an extra on one of those undead movies. 🙂

    crikey
    Free Member

    …further reassurance; there is no financial or other inducement or bonus given to any hospital ward or organisation resulting from organ donation.

    Nothing.

    There is a move towards paying hospitals for the staff time involved in the donation procedure, but this is only a way of covering the cost of the time taken up when we get involved in a donation. It is not an actual payment that ends up in anyones pocket.

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    I would quite happily be a beating heart donor. I have no issue with that whatsoever.

    My girlfriends nephew wanted to be a donor. he had a massive cerebral haemorrhage and was brain dead on a ventilator at the age of 35.

    After discussions with the family and brain death proven his ventilator was turned off. It took 16 hrs for his heart to stop beating – by which time the transplant team where no longer there and the organs were ruined and wasted.

    It would have been much better if he had been taken as a beating heart donor.

    5thElefant
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    The human body is worth lots of cash.

    The obvious solution is to allow people to (pre)sell their body leaving the cash in their will or allowing the next-of-kin to sell the parts.

    crikey
    Free Member

    Hmmmm. Except that a proportion of donation procedures don't result in actual transplants for a variety of reasons.
    Just because you donate doesn't mean you become a donor.

    That's why we need to increase the number of donors; to increase the chances of a successful transplant.

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