'No such thing as climate change'
A common question in A level geography exams – Discuss the relative importance of physical and human factors in causing flooding
We continue to remove vegetation, restrict river channels and increase the area of impermeable surfaces. This, along with the increased energy in the atmosphere brought by human induced acceleration of global warming guaratees that flooding will continue to increase and governments need to take ‘managed retreat’ seriously. The expansion of the warming oceans raises sea levels faster than melting ice – another less well understood fact.Posted 4 years ago
Climate change is just like the boogie man, Bigfoot and Santa, just something made up to scare children
and me! 😉 I have to admit I’m starting to feel a bit ‘edgy’ about he whole thing. Am I being a bit daft? My logic goes like this: Scientists know more about this stuff than me. The overwelming concensus of scientific opinion is that things are going waaay wrong and we are doing far too little about it. Therefore shermer75 gets all ‘the end is nigh!’ and ‘run for the hills’ on the internet. Hmmmmm….Posted 4 years ago
The climate never stops changing
If you go to Orkney there are the remains of a 4500 yr old settlement. Now it seems to be widely agreed that the climate in that region at that time was a lot warmer and generally much more pleasant.
So what caused the change? It was hardly the greenhouse gas emissions of neolithic man was it?Posted 4 years agoJCLMember
Meanwhile in Canada we’re digging up thousands of square KM’s of bitumen laced sand and using vast quantities of natural gas, via fracking, to ‘upgrade’ the tarsands bitumen to ship to China for deregulated burning of the stuff.
However, even if the worlds largest energy project was shelved tomorrow it would make little difference. The climate is already in runaway mode.Posted 4 years agoLHSMember
It’s all black magic and witch craft. Mother earth will do what she wants.
Now, flooding – well that’s all our fault but not due to greenhouse gases and all that other scare mongering.
Over years a river will silt up
Over years a river will try and get wider
A river usually is protected by flood plains, nice big bits of grassy goodness to soak up and regulate the water flow.
Restrict the width, concrete over the grassy goodness and still let the silt build up – you get a problem. It’s not difficult!Posted 4 years agoPaulioSubscriber
Grum sums it up well, there is enough evidence to say that man is causing the climate to change beyond natural variability and the rate of change is faster than ever before. The counter argument seems to be to say ‘no it’s not’.
Skeptical Science has a credible section on climate change evidence and myths, worth a read before posting up that it’s the sun or volcanos – http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.phpPosted 4 years ago
Grum – maybe change that bubble to “what if it is just a big hoax and we tie ourselves up in pointless regulation, destroy all our industry and export all of our jobs to china for nothing?”
So with a finite amount of coal, oil and gas in the world do you think we should keep burning it all till it’s gone or come up with a plan b. Energy is not the biggest reason jobs are exporting it’s the fact there are people in the world who will work for a fraction of the cost that you will. That and with no real concern for how many of them make it off shift alive or how many of their families are poisoned or how much of the irreplaceable parts of the world are turned into something that looks like Birmingham on a bad day.Posted 4 years agoteamhurtmoreMember
Climates (and weather) change constantly
Seas erode and deposit constantly (ditto rivers, glaciers etc)
The coastline changes – rises and falls over time
Man’s activities are one of a host of factors that affect the above
We can (and have over time) attempted to manage this process
We have only be partially successful
Nothing really new in any of this…….Posted 4 years agooldblokeMember
My brother is a soil scientist and does some work in the field. He’s a bit sick of the bandwagon as he feels the debate is about the wrong questions giving the worng answers. So in trying to be “better” we end up making things “worse”.
Examples might be where for environmental reasons we penalise the running of old cars when it makes more sense to maximise the life of them. Or where manufacturing moves out of one country because of environmental rules, only to have the polution created in a less enlightened country and then extra transport involved in transporting goods to market.Posted 4 years agosomewhatslightlydazedMember
Climate change couldn’t have been much fun for the Broze Age farmers on Dartmoor, and I doubt they cared too much why it happened.
These “theres always been climate change so get used to it” arguments are a smug rich westerners point of view. We’ve got lots of money, so it won’t affect us will it?
Well if your half million pound house in Staines is about to go under it will affect you.
Just less so than if you were a subsistence farmer in Bangladesh.Posted 4 years agomolgripsSubscriber
cranberry are you saying that climate change is just the latest in a long line of moany horse poop, a bit like the millennium bug (remember that?!!)
What? That WAS a problem, but WE FIXED IT which is why there wasn’t a problem in the end. Had we done nothing there would certainly have been a problem. Unlike climate change we were able to test with certainty if a system would be affected by putting its clock forward and testing it. And we did, and they crashed, so we sorted it. Absolutley gigantic top quality logic fail in assuming that because nothing went wrong there was no problem in the first place!
Anyway.. yes the climate has changed a lot in the past, on its own. How many people died because of it? Do you even know? How many should die with this current climate swing, caused by our pollution?Posted 4 years ago
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