New VTO aircraft

But not ours unfortunately

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Ki86x1WKPmE&feature=colike

Still a fine piece of engineering

Some parts of it is made in the UK

Nice vid.

Yes, you can see bits of them on the deck after take-off

VTO? You sure? Very wasteful of fuel. More likely to be be assisted take-off and vertical landing.

Not exactly being gentle when they set it down are they? You see the flex in the nose landing gear about 2m53s in? Dampers aren’t even kashima coated…

VTO? You sure? Very wasteful of fuel. More likely to be be assisted take-off and vertical landing.

STOVL? Short Take Off Verical Landing?

STOVL? Short Take Off Verical Landing?

That’s my understanding.

Like the Harrier, MIGHT be capable of VTO, but won’t be able to use it with payload and expect to get to target and back with fuel remaining.

A version definitely not VTO or even STO
B version is STO
C version is carrier based so I’d guess /ramp/assisted/STO

Incredible plane. The 2 tonne lift fan behind the cockpit is a bit of a weight penalty though over the non-STOVL one though.

Not exactly being gentle when they set it down are they? You see the flex in the nose landing gear about 2m53s in? Dampers aren’t even kashima coated…

I was thinking the same. Might be ok on carriers, but no good on a strava black run.

It’s a lot more Britsh than you give it credit for. All the lift system is from the UK…

I think the UK has contributed about 10% of the development cost to the F35 as well.

STOVL? Short Take Off Verical Landing?

That’s what the video showed, short take-off from a flat deck with rear exhaust swivelled full down and front fan full on, and full hover and vertical landing.

Airplane spotters

I can assure you that we ARE buying the C variant for our own use. (Why the F would we contribute this much to something we werent) It is STOVL (short take off verical landing) as when it is under its full payload it cannot take off verically. I can also bore you with why people seem to think it is crap but infact the STOVL versions are the ones suffering from the problems they balame it with. so the american buy crap and we are fine. 😀

The STOVL versions of both power plants use the Rolls-Royce LiftSystem the massive fan just behind the pilot, BAe Systems not quite British anymore but they provides rear fuselage and empennages, horizontal and vertical tails, crew life support and escape systems, Electronic warfare systems, fuel system, and Flight Control Software

Awesome bit of technology and probably the last manned fighter

http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/f35jointstrikefighter.cfm
The us Call it the JSF( joint strike fighter) but we reffer to it as the JCA( Joint combat aircraft) i can bore you with reasons for that as well!
The best thing is that due to my age if i go to uni and apply to be a pilot when i reach that age and i get selected and selected again and again twice more my job may be flying that beauty!

RE: kona

The engine you saw just now was a Pratt & Whitney but once it reaches full production it will be a RR 😀

any questions just ask away!

Very pretty corporate video BUT have they fixed the bits of it catching fire/melting issue when it uses it’s afterburner for any length of time, is the generator reliability sorted because the last thing I read was that it had a 10th the desired/planned life span and was an absolute sod to get at and if it’s anything like the F22 it’ll spend hideous amounts of time in the hanger being maintained/fixed.

any questions just ask away!

What can you tell me about the autonomic systems on this aircraft and how they are at odds with the current modus operandi of the British military support to flying?

These issues are being sorted it has already been in dev lenger than the 22 and wont see service till 2018 sonnest. also lockheed designed the F-22 on their own with out us and now we are helping it will def work. You know they couldn’t have broken mach 1 with out our help? every time they went to correct its course the air flow was destabilised and it stalled. we were also working to break mach 1 but gave up and sent our plans the the US. they noticed that we had the WHOLE surface moving whilst they kept the same design of aileron. they put the two together and BAM

Sorry TooTall I really can’t say. I cannot say anything that may give advantage to the enemies of the crown. that is how it is.

Should have gone with conventional carrier aircraft in my opinion, looks very high maintenance! Added to that, not very likely I know, but when they enter service what if there is a problem that grounds the type? Can’t run F18 super hornets off a ski ramp!

Typical UK defence project “yeah you can make some of the bits,you just need to buy 50 of em and accept being bummed as the price goes up” Oh and you need to build some aircraft carriers to suit them, its got more **** folding doors on it than the wickes and B&Q christmas sale put together

any questions just ask away!

Do you know what ITAR is ,

Further google yak 141 mega afterburner awesumz with russian stylee

Should have gone with conventional carrier aircraft in my opinion

Aye. Would have allowed buying Super Hornets/Rafales off the shelf if the F-35C (which is the CATOBAR variant) fails. No fallback if the F-35B doesn’t work out.

Not exactly being gentle when they set it down are they?

They say in the Air Force a landing’s OK
If the pilot gets out and can still walk away,
But in the Fleet Air Arm the prospect is grim
If the landing’s piss-poor and the pilot can’t swim.

Do you know what ITAR is

I’m sure he has all the necessary knowledge sharing licences in place 😉

yep and no Im not american and nor have i been informed of what the americans are doing exactly. Keep the questions vauge and non harmful and I’ll try and answer. (if there has ben a press release i can generally help you understand that) I can talk about the vauge details of the Suit the pilot will be wearing and his HUD if ya like

Keep the questions vauge and non harmful and I’ll try and answer.

OK, what’s the derivation of ‘wafu’ anyway?

Re: navy

Yh and no. they will fly rotary off the decks whilst the RAF will be stationed off the ship. The forces will be mixed and socialise but putting a sailor in charge of a fast jet of that calibre aint happenin

lol at legend

WAFU: is navy for Weapons And Fuel Users.
anything off one of their ships that uses the above

oops no I need to correct my self there “. These are the nice chaps that fix the odd Lynx/Merlin/Sea King from time to time. Mainly found lounging in the hangar sipping tea and swapping dits of the night out before. The term itself is an acronym of Wet And Flaming Useless. It applies to any member of the Fleet Air Arm.” had to double check 😛

The forces will be mixed and socialise but putting a sailor in charge of a fast jet of that calibre aint happenin

Yes the forces will be mixed; however, given the precedent going back to 892NAS and their Phantoms, a majority of the aircrew will be dark blue. Sharky Ward demonstrated that the RN is quite capable of flying fast jets effectively.

True. but the extended training required for the F-35 is run by the RAF

True. but the extended training required for the F-35 is run by the RAF

Not quite the same as saying a sailor flying the plane ‘ain’t happening’.

Over simplification but yes. I was being brief but yes fine you win.

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Where do I sign? It’s perfect for the school run!

http://vimeo.com/40935850
not us or the JCM but cool anyway
Very funny ratherbeintobago