New phone time. SIM free. Up to £500.

Was impressed by the Nothing phones when had a brief look recently before managing to revive my wife’s Moto Defy.

Slight concern they may go the way of my old Wiley Fox, some great ideas but not commercially visible enough to be successful. Think I read they are some ex Plus One staff.

How many years of security updates have Xiaomi committed to though?

4 major updates and 5 years for security.

Old mi10t lite last security update was early 2023 and it wasn’t updated beyond Android 12 and miui 14. So this new phone should do nearly 4 years with updates and at least 1 yr without. I hope?

Must admit, I’ve never used the Samsung features on any Samung phone other than thier photo editor. Or finger print or face recognition.

Pixel 8 still eems the bet so far.

The phones with a free tablet would be good if it will run Zwift?

Xiaomi and Hawui (if that’s how you spell them) don’t know anything about them but not rulled them out.

I have to be honest, but with some stuff I’ve seen through work there’s no way I’d have a Chinese company phone nowadays. I know someone will retort that so much of electronics is also MiC, and that worries me too.

https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/news/ncsc-and-partners-issue-alert-about-evolving-techniques-used-by-china-state-sponsored-cyber-attacks

I would assume that if you have one it is never properly secure, now and definitely not in the future. It sounds like the pages of a spy novel, I’ve sat in meetings recently that make spy novels read like Janet and John.

Could have written this myself. Have a 4 1/2 year old A51 that needs charged twice a day. Really begrudge having to buy a new one. There was a time when I couldn’t wait to get the latest phone on a contract. Been sim only for 5 years now and will never go back.

Latest doesn’t mean the best. My £330 A70 at the time was better than newer phones at twice the price.

How many years of security updates have Xiaomi committed to though?

5 years on current phones I believe.

@retrorick how’s the 14T Pro?

I’m eyeing one up as my 3 year old £200 Xiaomi is slowing down. I’d sell the tablet on and trade in my existing phone for £80.

I got a Pixel 8 last month changing from a Samsung A55.

I much prefer the Pixel, the only irritant (for me) is it doesn’t have a feature where you can limit the charge to 80% to prolong battery life like my Samsung did.

I normally get over a day out of the Pixel battery so it’d be no bother at 80%.

Pixel 8a at £499 from Google Store and can also get a trade-in on your existing phone.