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 dc11
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So, I've finally decided to try tubeless. I have a set of 2nd hand Hope Hoops with Crest rims (yellow tape and valves already fitted) and a pair of used 2.25 Nobby Nic Evos.

Having read numerous threads on this, i'm already preparing myself for a lot of stress and expletives. However, my question is this, with the tyres being used is it going to be even more difficult, or even impossible, for them to seal and inflate?.. And will I die if I try using a ghetto compressor?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Ta. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:07 pm
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Nice knowing you ,rip.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:08 pm
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Are these tubeless specific NNs?


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:08 pm
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No, they're not UST. Although they have just popped onto the rim extremely easy, I seem to remember the last time I put a NN on a Crest it was a nightmare.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:15 pm
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My first tubeless experiment was with standard Nobby Nics. One was fine, the other needed filled with air every ride.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:17 pm
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Should be ok. I occasionally have to reseat old tyres and haven't had many problems.

You might need a bit more sealant and you'll need to check there are no big holes to let the air out.

A CO2 inflater is the easiest way I've found. Can be got cheaply online. Occasionally I can manage with a track pump.

You do sort of develop a knack for it. I definitely find it easier these days than when I first started.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:17 pm
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Not NN's but I've just gone tubeless on my new Flow rims with a used Minion (non tubeless) without any problems at all. The only thing I needed to do was remove the valve core and inflate with a track pump to get the beads to snap into place. Not lost a single PSI so really pleased.
Worth doing the 'soapy water' test before using your sealant to make sure the tyre is sealed properly.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:17 pm
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Schwalbe EVO tyres are tubeless ready. They will need gunk in them though. NN's are my favourite tyre until it gets really gloomy, then I go MudX/GEAX Datura


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:24 pm
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My top tip for any non ust tyres etc is to make sure all the release nipples round the bead areas are carefully removed with some small snips or scissors thus giving no potential leak points (particularly prevalent with Maxxis tyres). If you use plenty of soapy water and mount the tyres first off just with soapy water to about 50 psi using a compressor if you have one and leave the first one infalted whilst you sort the second wheel. then deflate, remove the valve core and insert your chosen fluid through the core (I use a syringe with large bore)replave seal and re-inflate all this being done with the wheel hanging not sat on the floor so no flat spots or beads forced away.
Fingers crossed never had a fail and they always seal immediately.
good luck.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:25 pm
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Would it kill you to use the search feature,

Ooo wait, you did which means your not going to be bommered to death. On here tht means getting a phat set of forks and sticking it to the man!


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:27 pm
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I've inflated 2.25in NNs without too much issue. It is worth spending 5 minutes extra getting setup first or you'll just get annoyed because it won't quite inflate.

A few pointers that might help:-

- Having the tyre warm (i.e not straight out of a frozen garage) will mean it is more pliable and slide into place better
- A little washing up liquid on the beads will help you seat the tyre if it is tight to get on
- Give it a quick shot with a track pump if you want, but if you want to save lots of expletives, go for a Co2 cartridge if it doesn't work after the first few attempts with the track pump
- Gently hold the tyres near the valve so that the air has a fighting chance of staying in the tyre rather than disappearing straight out of the sidewall gap by the valve
- If going for Co2, I'd try to inflate the tyre (wear gloves!) without any sealant in and the valve core out, then gently let the air out but don't break the sidewall seal and put the sealant in through valve
- Once you had inflated it once, as long as you don't dislodge the sidewalls from the rim, you should get it reinflated fairly easily (with a track pump)

Having done a good few wheels and tyres over the years, I now don't bother too much with the track pump. If it isn't going to work after one or two attempts, I've decided it is worth spending a small amount on the co2 cartridges (cheap from specialists online) to save a lot of agro.

Best of luck! At least you have Stans rims which are much easier to get tyres inflated on than ghetto tubeless setups.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:31 pm
 dc11
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Wow, lots of replies and some solid sounding advice. I'll get some sealant and give it a go. Cheers!


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 10:52 pm
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The warm thing can be critical - last time I fitted a UST tyre onto a Flow it wouldn't go up (both in a cold garage). Spent about a minute waving a hair dryer at it and it inflated with ease on the next attempt.


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:26 pm
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so........... when do we witch hunt him and take him out??


 
Posted : 11/12/2012 11:51 pm