seen 1 of these in the bike shop today realy cheep (frame only)

anyone know anything about them? anyone got 1?

good/bad points let me know

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Not tried the Zion but I have a koncept carbon which is a 90mm race full suss. Great frame, fast and super light, but, too light it would seem as hairline cracks have appeared at the top tube/seat tube jct.

Msc no longer trade in the UK so I'm trying to deal directly with MSC Spain about the warranty and not getting many replies to emails…

A mate of mine races a Koncept and has had the frame snap and it's a tad flexy.

😯 oh

If your in the market for a light carbon full suss try Canyon.
The Lux MR got a great review in What MTB. On their website there are 2009 discounted frames in the Outlet or a 2010 is about £1100ish.
21lb full bikes with XO & Mavic SLR's are about £2800, which would be £5K if it were Scott, Giant or Spesh.
Canyon Lux MR

MSC have already backed out of the UK market? They only lasted 20 minutes, that's a shame. Their frames look very good, although they do seem to have had some reliability issues. Dougal's got one, and it's very nice!

I had an Alu Zion – great frame adjustable travel, rode brilliantly. Actually regret selling it to a mate, who now isn't keen to sell it back!

Never had an issue with the frame, have heard the carbons just as good, but lighter – how cheap? There not exactly cheap to start with!