Mine’s a pint. But not Brew Dog

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/jun/27/brewdog-sacks-asian-woman-over-reaction-to-edl-members-meeting-in-bar?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, their beer tastes like petrol and their management are c____s. Why anyone’s pint is BrewDog escapes me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0cfkklv

Any thoughts on this yourself?

All i’m reading in that article is some drama from a sacking, there’s more to this than just the punchy headline, from the actual information, EDL had a rally in the area, the police told Brewdog they didn’t have to shut the bar, some EDL/potential EDL members came in and had a drink, without any incidents, she said things to the manager that she later rolled back on.

All sounds a bit meh

Brew Dog have a history of behaving like dicks as individuals and as an organisation. I won’t give them a penny of my money.

Support your local brewery, not some corporate shysters

It’s not a great look to lose your B-Corp status:

(IMO) Mr J Watt is a absolute roaster and a plastic punk to boot.

Recently seen at Toad of Toad halls 60th birthday bash.

https://kmflett.wordpress.com/2024/05/08/brewdogs-james-watt-pays-the-price-for-attending-farages-birthday-party/

Says is all really.

I am an in the shit beer making money for grade A wallopers camp. They have been **** from the start and the continue to be ****. Similarly the beers have been and continue to be shite.

Beer for punks ****

I’m not trendy enough to hate a beer company and I frequent their bar in York where I’ll enjoy a pizza, some very nice beers, chat to their very pleasant staff etc. But… I’ve found that buying their stuff from the supermarket in cans has become absolute filth. Got a pack of Punk the other day and its really, REALLY nasty – nothing like what it used to be.

Are we still closing posts with links but no commentary? Does it have to be reported?

Punk IPA is the Carling of modern beers.

“I’m not trendy enough to hate a beer company”

Strange thing to say.

Either the ethics of a company play part of your buying decision or they don’t.

Personally they always have and so I’ve been ignoring Brewdog for some time due to the complete stroker in charge. It helps that it all tastes like pish though.

The add to Drac’s comment. Please don’t just create a new thread and simply add a link and no other comment from yourself.

Either the ethics of a company play part of your buying decision or they don’t.

Indeed, my dislike of the Brewdog management has SFA to do with being trendy,see also Wetherspoons and the many others that are on my avoidance list.

Punk IPA is the Carling of modern beers.

Except Carling tastes like bland but serviceable lager, and Punk IPA tastes like petrol

They started making all the right noises but once venture capital gets involved any ethics that may have been in place get lost in the need to pay the monthly dues to the money men.

They are firmly in my avoid buying or consuming camp.

I’m not trendy enough to hate a beer company and I frequent their bar in York where I’ll enjoy a pizza, some very nice beers, chat to their very pleasant staff etc. But… I’ve found that buying their stuff from the supermarket in cans has become absolute filth. Got a pack of Punk the other day and its really, REALLY nasty – nothing like what it used to be.

All of the above ^

All the ‘their beer is ****’ nonsense is just tiresome willy waving. I’ve been drinking craft and cask beers for 20 years. I don’t claim ANY expertise or qualification but have enjoyed plenty Brewdog offerings in the past.

That being said I rarely buy their tinned stuff any more, but I don’t go about saying it’s ****, I just assume the recipe has changed or my tastes have changed.

Have also regularly enjoyed their pubs and food offerings and the staff in the bars always seem friendly and enthusiastic so another thumbs up.

To be fair to DrJ I’d argue the title of the thread is his comment and the link backs up why.  Or am I missing a wider point, pretty sure I know where the Dr stands on this…

Edit: But yeah, Brewdog is gopping, the owner a dick and this just adds to the negativity I feel about the business.

I don’t mind their beer, but there’s plenty of other options owned and run by people who aren’t total wallopers. So they get a swerve from me.

Its an interesting issue – do you boycott companies that behave unethically?  I do but I know many do not.  I have a long list of companies I will not buy from – Wetherspoons, Brewdog, Starbucks, Amazon, Nestle etc etc I try to avoid all Isreali, japanese and american stuff but thats difficult.

some folk the ethics are important – some its not

Its an interesting issue – do you boycott companies that behave unethically?

That way lies madness though. There’s booksellers that still use Amazon as their market place (for instance) so boycotting them totally is only really hurting me..Whole countries is the stuff of 6th form protest IMO, although if I’m shopping and food product has been flown in than further abroad than say southern Europe, I’ll probably not bother.

Or high ethical standards? 🙂

I try to avoid all Isreali, japanese and american stuff but thats difficult.

This must make buying bike parts difficult

I take it some of you will not be going to this weekends AGM then?

I’ll be the one in the stw top 👍

Sent from my nuclear bunker!

Or high ethical standards?

Mleh, I live in the UK, at the fag end of consumer capitalism. We’ve all been knee deep in ethically challenged corporations all our lives knowingly or otherwise. Any corporation that gets over a certain size has got there through fair means and foul. Any meagre attempts I make to buy Fage* instead of Danone* aren’t making the executive board of Nestle cry into their share reports.

*pulled out of my head for illustrative purposes only.

This must make buying bike parts difficult

It does but it possible – hence my Shand has nothing Japanese on it ( but I guess the tubeset is japanese?)  the one thing that is really difficult is derailleurs but I do like a rohloff

Why Japanese out of curiosity?

The add to Drac’s comment. Please don’t just create a new thread and simply add a link and no other comment from yourself.

I thought my thread title was comment enough. Does it have to be spelled out?

the one thing that is really difficult is derailleurs

TRP and Microshift are both taiwanese afaik

Don’t Shimano make some in Malaysia and Singapore?

Why Japanese out of curiosity?

Unethical behaviour.  Killing whales for meat no one wants and albatrosses via long line catching for squid.  They could easily modify the fleet of long line fishing boats to prevent this happening but because the fuss was made by western pressure groups they refused to do so.  Same as the whales.  No one in japan wants whale meat but they are not going to be told what to do by western pressure groups so continue to kill whales.  Lots of other stuff as well but all seems petty .

Sure boycotts particularly by individuals makes little difference in most cases but some do.  International isolation of South Africa helped end apartheid.  Nestle and Barclays boycotts maybe made a little difference

the Japanese and American things are not a hard and fast rule – just that I will only use them as a last resort

Going back to the original point of the thread, did any of the suspected EDL members behave in a way that prompted “Miriam’s” reaction or was their presence alone enough? The news report isn’t clear on that.

*dons flameproof mankini and awaits the abuse*

My pints tonight came from a pub about eight miles from the one I was drinking in, which has its own brewery, and their brewmaster was originally with Guinness. They have a wide range of very fine beers indeed.

The pub/brewery is The Three Daggers, at Eddington between Melksham and Westbury in Wiltshire, and I was drinking their Ethandun 878.
It’s close to the site King Alfred the Great fought his decisive battle against the Viking army and established the first unified kingdom of England.
Just to show its got real history behind it, not some fabricated advertising bollocks.

I might be totally lost here however wasn’t sick cycles second venture?

Going back to the original point of the thread, did any of the suspected EDL members behave in a way that prompted “Miriam’s” reaction or was their presence alone enough? The news report isn’t clear on that.

That would be my interest as well. Did they abuse her as bar staff, and were not get removed from the premises as any good licensee should when their staff are abused. Or was it simply she disagreed with their politics?  You can’t really not serve someone in a pub because you don’t like what they believe. You’d rapidly run out of customers in some places.

Going back to the original point of the thread, did any of the suspected EDL members behave in a way that prompted “Miriam’s” reaction or was their presence alone enough? The news report isn’t clear on that.

*dons flameproof mankini and awaits the abuse*

Presumably  they were wearing or saying enough to know who they were. If you know who they were and you happen to be a non **** you would know its not about politics its about hate. Accepting them in is legitimising their existence, being a racist **** isn’t  a protective blanket, they can absolutely be refused, juat like you can refuse football colours sprinkle some 88’s, some swastikas and some SS tattooed badly on the knuckle draggers arms. Good for her for kicking up a fuss.

The biggest **** shock the fact a **** scottish company got their knickers in a twist about some **** swearing.

There is no mention of them causing any trouble in the pub, the only statement is miriam saying how their rallies always turn out violent, not even sure why Breiwdog is the big thing here (and especially on this thread), it’s a basic set up for a tribunal, she said stuff she shouldn’t, followed it up with texts, she went through disciplinary and was sacked, all this case should be about was whether this course of action by Brewdog was fair, without all the other drama being added to it.

You can’t really not serve someone in a pub because you don’t like what they believe.

Jesus, you can if what they believe causes distress and concern among your staff. You can of they believe they have space for a twelth pint. You can of they are wearing a football strip.

You can for lots of reasons. It’s really not hard, an employee should feel safe stepping into their place of work. End. Of. Story.

I try to avoid all Isreali, japanese and american stuff but thats difficult.

And China? I find it hard to believe you can support the CCP by buying anything from China given your stance on other companies and countries