Liverpool – Still a Boss place!!!

What does ‘boss’ mean?

In Glasgow, it’s what heroin addicts call you when they’re trying to get you to give them money.

johnellison – Member

Compared to North Korea/Damascus/Blackburn, yes.

What secret part of Burnley do you live in mate?

freddyg – Member

What does ‘boss’ mean?

I’m not particularly keen on Liverpool either, I thought it was a dump; I was last there in the late 80s, early 90s – maybe I should venture back for a nosey?

Its changed Dramatically in the last 30 years, come check it out!

I’ve had nothing but fun, working and playing in ‘the Pool’, when i’ve had the chance in the last ten years. Good vibes.

It’s called illogical pathological hatred.

Gotcha. We’ve all got those. I know I’ll never spend time in Par (close to St. Austell) again, for a pretty similar reason. 😉

I have it on very good authority that when Macca was asked to play at Liverpool for the capital of culture do the conversation between the leader of the Council and Macca when like this:

Council: Paul, we really need you to headline the event.

Paul: Of course I will do it, I will do anything you want but my appearance fee will be £1.8m.

Council: Paul, this concert is not intended to raise any money other than to cover the cost of putting it on, it’s all about showcasing the City, we have not offered to pay the other artists.

Paul: my appearance fee will be £1.8m.

That was the end of the negotiation and Macca headlined the event.

I’ve got loads more like that if you want.
From the porn films being shot in the Adelphi, through the pubs with proper drug ‘shops’ in the back to the city centre clubs using organised crime, hells angels for bouncers who weren’t adverse to stabbing people up the arse to teach them a lesson.

Lived over the water for 20 plus years, and never heard of anything similar, and its not even mentioned in Spike Island a book about liverpool police written in the 70,s.

I’m not sure why you would hear of anything at all. Are you normally in touch with the comings and goings of Liverpool’s minor underworld actors?

This is just the little stuff that I came in direct contact with anyway. People were shooting each other on a daily basis during this period.
Or were you not aware of that either?

No doubt these things did happen, probably not as common & open as made out though, think of some mad sh1t, you will find it somewhere in Liverpool, but for 99% of people 99% of the time, life is normal, just like everywhere else!

Crikey I thought Scousers were meant to have a sense of humour a few on this thread seem very precious about their home city 😆

I think on a whole, we do, let me know when you have something funny to say & we can have some banter 8)

You first I insist 😆

Ha ha! I love all the wonderful opinions on Liverpool ^^^^^ Here’s mine – as Mrs camo16 and a scouser – we knew Nelson Mandela wasn’t a terrorist. We knew the Hillsborough tragedy was the fault of the police. We brought a newspaper to its knees. We brought Maggie down to her knees and look where she’s ended up. 😉 Hate us or love us, what you see is what you get! It’s all from the heart and most of you wouldn’t be where you are now without people like us!

I used to think Liverpool was pretty grim when we went to football matches there in the late 80s/early 90s. Been back recently and it’s pretty nice – interesting bars, shops, clubs, restaurants etc

Its pretty lively at times Samuri but the train station pickpocket only worked on the ugly blokes!!
Its all dead boss la in Shakeabush. (only locals will get this probably)

My other half is a scouser and I don’t mind the place, it can be rough but then so can anywhere. One thing though, the women can be stunning.

Its all dead boss la in Shakeabush

Easy – Wavertree!

We’re in oval shaped dock. It’s boss here too, lah.

* waves *

Mrs camo16

Aigburth………

Ha good one, took me a while to work that one out.

😆

Where do you local boys usually ride then?

…top song though!

I agree, it’s a much nicer place now.
Compared to North Korea/Damascus/Blackburn, yes.
I absolutely detest the place and everything about it. Always have, always will.

I’ve reported this post, some of us lost family in the bombing in Liverpool, the city suffered terribly and I don’t see the need for this sort of pointless vitriol.

Hope the mods agree.

The poor guy thinks Liverpool’s a dump & Burnley isn’t, think he is already suffering from delusion the poor sod 😆

Where do you local boys usually ride then?

That was one of my issues with Liverpool. There is one BW marked on the entire 1:50K OS map.

There is the TPT (covered in glass). The only bit of pleasant riding I recall was along the promenade up to Otterspool.

Ha ha! I love all the wonderful opinions on Liverpool ^^^^^ Here’s mine – as Mrs camo16 and a scouser – we knew Nelson Mandela wasn’t a terrorist. We knew the Hillsborough tragedy was the fault of the police. We brought a newspaper to its knees. We brought Maggie down to her knees and look where she’s ended up. Hate us or love us, what you see is what you get! It’s all from the heart and most of you wouldn’t be where you are now without people like us!

Having lived in Liverpool, TBH I actally loved it at the time (83) and the individual sense of living life to the full was refreshing. However, here is the rub, as proved by the the post above:-

Liverpool has always been bouyed by its own ego driven myths and legends, about being a put upon City, that the South hates. Ultimately, Liverpool was ruined by its groupthink about it’s own self importance. When i lived there it;’s head was right up it’s own arse. Not helped by the council being controlled by Derek Hatton.

Livepool did not bring Maggie to her knees. In no shape or form – one of the biggest issues working there were the workshy, scamming 9and racist, may a nod to the past) workforce , and as soon as it went not in their favour …. stike. The scousers were confrontational, aggressive thieves, with chips on both shoulders. Unfortnately, it always came across that they didn’t like hard work. Thatcher’s policies – love them or hate them actually has forced Liverpool to change.
In the eighties, because of scousitude, factories close left , right and centre, to be relocated elsewhere , where teh worksforce were a little more forward thinking. Liverpool’s unemployment rockered, smack addiction (Ford and Woodhouse Estates rockets.
Robbing was a way of life – seen as being “Robin Hoods”. If it wasn’t screwed down it got nicked. If it was screwed down, it got nicked the following night. If it was replaced it got nicked later.

Thatcher’s union and labour refroms challenged a lot of the scouse spanish practises – and fortunaerly the city has changed, for the better. So Maggie won that round. 30 years later, she’s dead. HArdly down to anything Liverpool could muster.

Liverpool never bought the Sun to it’s knees, Kelvin McKenzie was a big mouthed tit re Hillsborough. Many years on, scousers still don’t buy the Sun. And it is still the biggest selling paper.

Re Hillsborough – a real tragedy. But scouse learning is once again a tad remedial. Hillsborough was cuased by overcrowding, when late arriving fans were continously herded into Lepping’s Lane. Some has tickets, some didn’t. But 96 died.
There has been a very long campaign to prove that there was no fault of the Liverpool fans. So how come, when LFC got to the European Cup final, mant fans used the LFC tried and tested method of “rushing” the turnstiles, as they ahd no tickets. Legitimate ticket holders didn’t get in, and those who did, without paying, saw it as a great triumph. It was Hillsborough II waiting to happen. Isn’t there a case for a little bit of responsibility here from the fans to make sure Hillborough cannot happen.

And then there is the selective memory re Heysel. The fans were killed when a shoddily brick wall collapsed – but it collapsed because the were being rushed attached by LFC fans …. In the aftermath, Liverpool FC and the City did what it coudl to protect it’s own, suggesting a witch hunt, and following a policy of omatra. Of thos ewho were prosecuted, few served any significant time. It also took years for LFC to acknowledge it’s role in the tragedy. And it still grates with Juve fans – hence teh rufusal to accept some of the platitudes that came later.

Liverpool has a potential to be a great place – but the population needs to stop having a blame culture, a huge chip on it’s shoudler and take some affermative action. It needs to stop acting like an angry, spoilt teenager. Producing the Beatles 50 or so years ago , does not make the greatest city in the world.

And also, rememeber where teh wealth came from …

However, it is miles better than Stoke on Trent

I was there last week for a couple of days, seemed OK 🙂

Liverpool is a fab place to visit.

Also, that Beatles picture has reminded me that George Harrison was a very good looking guy…

Rachel

mrmoofo – Member

Having lived in Liverpool, TBH I actally loved it at the time (83) and the individual sense of living life to the full was refreshing. However, here is the rub, as proved by the the post above:-

Liverpool has always been bouyed by its own ego driven myths and legends, about being a put upon City, that the South hates. Ultimately, Liverpool was ruined by its groupthink about it’s own self importance. When i lived there it;’s head was right up it’s own arse. Not helped by the council being controlled by Derek Hatton.

Livepool did not bring Maggie to her knees. In no shape or form – one of the biggest issues working there were the workshy, scamming 9and racist, may a nod to the past) workforce , and as soon as it went not in their favour …. stike. The scousers were confrontational, aggressive thieves, with chips on both shoulders. Unfortnately, it always came across that they didn’t like hard work. Thatcher’s policies – love them or hate them actually has forced Liverpool to change.
In the eighties, because of scousitude, factories close left , right and centre, to be relocated elsewhere , where teh worksforce were a little more forward thinking. Liverpool’s unemployment rockered, smack addiction (Ford and Woodhouse Estates rockets.
Robbing was a way of life – seen as being “Robin Hoods”. If it wasn’t screwed down it got nicked. If it was screwed down, it got nicked the following night. If it was replaced it got nicked later.

Thatcher’s union and labour refroms challenged a lot of the scouse spanish practises – and fortunaerly the city has changed, for the better. So Maggie won that round. 30 years later, she’s dead. HArdly down to anything Liverpool could muster.

Liverpool never bought the Sun to it’s knees, Kelvin McKenzie was a big mouthed tit re Hillsborough. Many years on, scousers still don’t buy the Sun. And it is still the biggest selling paper.

Re Hillsborough – a real tragedy. But scouse learning is once again a tad remedial. Hillsborough was cuased by overcrowding, when late arriving fans were continously herded into Lepping’s Lane. Some has tickets, some didn’t. But 96 died.
There has been a very long campaign to prove that there was no fault of the Liverpool fans. So how come, when LFC got to the European Cup final, mant fans used the LFC tried and tested method of “rushing” the turnstiles, as they ahd no tickets. Legitimate ticket holders didn’t get in, and those who did, without paying, saw it as a great triumph. It was Hillsborough II waiting to happen. Isn’t there a case for a little bit of responsibility here from the fans to make sure Hillborough cannot happen.

And then there is the selective memory re Heysel. The fans were killed when a shoddily brick wall collapsed – but it collapsed because the were being rushed attached by LFC fans …. In the aftermath, Liverpool FC and the City did what it coudl to protect it’s own, suggesting a witch hunt, and following a policy of omatra. Of thos ewho were prosecuted, few served any significant time. It also took years for LFC to acknowledge it’s role in the tragedy. And it still grates with Juve fans – hence teh rufusal to accept some of the platitudes that came later.

Liverpool has a potential to be a great place – but the population needs to stop having a blame culture, a huge chip on it’s shoudler and take some affermative action. It needs to stop acting like an angry, spoilt teenager. Producing the Beatles 50 or so years ago , does not make the greatest city in the world.

And also, rememeber where teh wealth came from …

However, it is miles better than Stoke on Trent

Imagine flicking a coin & getting the same side every time 😆

Never mind stoke, if anyone has travelled the UK extensively in the last decade as I have you are spoilt for choice on worse place’s, Place’s experienceing what Liverpool has in years gone by!

As a Scouser it never ceases to suprise me how the mere mention of the city polarises opinion to such an extent.
Love it or hate it people do have opinions and for many reasons (good and bad) it is firmly on the map.
I prefer coming from a place like that!

I remember the days when they used to have a decent football team. And to be fair Everton are still doing quite well 😉

Binners ,how dare you speak the truth about LFC , I am sure we will have our little run again !!!
. some harsh comments on here but I must say I agree with a lot of them in some respects it is great but in terms of the people ,there is still a chip on shoulder culture which pisses me off no end .
Bootle here

not far from me Voodoo, currently In Crosby

I hear you but I tend to focus on the positive & good when it comes to Liverpool, far to many happy to focus on the other side sometimes unfairly in my eyes 🙂

binners – Member
I remember the days when they used to have a decent football team. And to be fair Everton are still doing quite well

Lolz at no Trophy since 95 🙂

In reply to timc for riding I,m back to my routes on the Wirral or North Wales. Local rides it’s single speeding through the parks and down the seafront really or to Asda! Do you happen to be fond of fat bikes? If you are I know you lah.
Best local ride is Church Street and Liverpool One area on Christmas Day morning!

@ timc – weekdays I do the promenade commute or the dock road on my roadie and – like Marin – local parks with the family. Otherwise, it’s mostly Delamere or North Wales…

Quite a few STW-ers in the ‘pool, it seems. I thought most of the forum were from Manchester! 😉

Marin – I agree totally. Liverpool One is a fantastic Christmas ride, as is the Three Graces-Albert Dock loop, top gear in high summer… short, but sweet!

It does often seem as though STW is mostly Manchester area, but I’m surprised how many of us live on or near the Wirral!

I’m not from round these parts (mostly Bristol) but I’ve lived here for 18 years and can’t see me leaving anytime soon.

BTW I work in sunny Toxteth & as an outsider I can understand some of the chip on both shoulders comments, but as a place Liverpool is very often stunning with so much going on & some inspiring people. Just occasionally they need to look to the future not the past.

No disrespect but never found a reason to go

A scouser here, but its home and love the place. Has its faults but most places do!

Bloody hell, loads of us, have to have a summer’s ride!

most cities were in a bad state in the 80s, manchester was not without problems either…. both are revitalising themselves and although you could find some dodgy areas, these are in the minority and you could find dodginess in most places – I really don’t get this polarised view, IME the shoulderchip isn’t a scouse hallmark

Tim c, lack of decent off road not good ,but u are only a short car journey away….what do you ride