But they’re still unlikely to be pre diabetic. I think Gee Atherton is about those stats, but he’s a crap example.

Of the people down the pub that complain about how inaccurate BMI is, ‘lean’ is not the first adjective that springs to mind to describe them.

There’s a Venn diagram somewhere with ‘people who say BMI doesn’t apply to pro rugby players’ and ‘pro Rugby players’.

Headfirst – I’ve got exactly the same stats as you and have realised that I’ve got to get it down. Work issues make it difficult to create a sensible routine for food or exercise but I’m trying really hard to sort out both.

BMI doesn’t bother me but people half my age going faster than me does!

Consider drastically cutting down or eliminating meat. Almost everything available in supermarkets is industrialy reared and processed garbage. High omega6. Incude farmed fish in that too.

Fruit, veg, nuts, carbs and exersise… you dont need more than that really. Maybe a bit of wild fish once or twice a month… squid is a good one.

Fruit gets a bad rep ref diabetes. Thing is the fructose is bound with fiber and slow to absorb so most fruits are low gi; as long as you eat normal portions no worries. Same with other complex carbs, like wholewheat pasta or rice, meduim gi.

Doctors seem confused on this. My MIL was pre diabetic and was told not to eat oranges… which are low gi, like 5!

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Diabetics have to limit carbs so you might want to look into that. My MIL was 60g per meal after she became full diabetic IIRC. Although she “likes” white bread so its academic.

Of the people down the pub that complain about how inaccurate BMI is, ‘lean’ is not the first adjective that springs to mind to describe them.

This was my point.

I have type 1 diabetes

There really is a load of old twaddle on this thread.

With any luck the OP’s GP will refer to the local diabetes specialist care centre if necessary.

Almost everything available in supermarkets is industrialy reared and processed garbage

That’s bollocks and also irrelevant.

Just got back from my 20min diabetic appointment with my Dr following ECG and subsequent blood tests for liver £ kidney function etc. I walked in to see my Dr with a baffled expression scratching his head whereby he proclaimed I’ve not had this before your results have changed over the previous 3 months your not diabetic and your blood levels have improved. He also expressed concerns over my heart rate which was 40 from the ECG, that was until I explained I cycle and my weight is down to 12st 5.

So brilliant news and I’m on the right track healthwise. 😀 I can now look forward to being 50 and fit.

Congrats!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28310871

corroboration! 😀

I used to eat sweets mid-ride, chocolate bars every day etc. I realised on a ride after stuffing my face with jelly babies (to stave off the start of hunger) a short while later I’d crash and burn. Same with constant chocolate. Since cutting all of it out I’m fine- I even eat less before the ride itself. No idea about diabetes but I think exercise and a bag of processed sugar (or cake post ride) shouldn’t go together for longterm health.

The roadie thing for energy gel can’t be good for you.

That’s just standard insulin crashing- you eat a bunch of sugar, your body produces insulin to deal with it, then the sugar runs out but the insulin response lags and you end up with a low blood sugar level.

I didn’t really know about this, being a diabetic- it’s not something that can happen to us. So I mainline haribos on longer rides, and keep giving them to people, especially broken people. Which, in a certain light, could be considered sabotage 😆 Ian the guide at A Quick Release found me feeding handfulls jelly babies to a mate on a long ride and more or less slapped them out of my hands 🙂

especially broken people. Which, in a certain light, could be considered sabotage

This used to be classic-me.

“I’m peckish, anyone got anything”? Sure, pulls out big bag of haribo and pours a over-large generous-gesture handful…

20mins later BANG

I thought sugar was OK while you’re exercising 🙁 😳

Jelly babies are pretty much the only thing I’ve turned back for when I’ve set off for a ride

Sugar is OK, you’ve just got to be careful with it. Generally it’s about matching high gi and low gi foods, if you’re going to use nitrous you’ve got to have some petrol in the tank too or it’s danger to the manifold.

“Pre-diabetes label ‘worthless’, researchers claim.”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28310871

Surely peeing a lot is an actual symptom of diabetes not pre-diabetes?

When I was diagnosed I was peeing a lot, drinking a lot and washing out any nutrients from my system, and getting the most horrendous cramps at night.

What was your actual BGL?

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Diabetics have to limit carbs

Really? News to me. Dr Bernstein would probs disagree with me but hey.

The roadie thing for energy gel can’t be good for you.

I’d say more mountain bikers tended to rely on them for on the go sustenance. Useful for racing (either type of bike), but not many roadies will just have gels casually. Cake for roadies.

I thought sugar was OK while you’re exercising

Depends.

When exercising intensely (ie short XC race), you are using your muscle glycogen stores, so when you eat sugar (or something else high GI) the insulin produced encourages your cells to take up glucose from the blood which is a good thing – getting energy back into your muscles quickly where it can be used.

However, insulin also inhibits the use of fat by your muscles, so if you are on a long endurance ride or even a long race you WANT to be burning fat, so sugar is to be avoided at first and then limited later. This is a vital piece of information I was previously missing.

My current approach is to not eat for several hours before a ride, so insulin levels are low, and then not within the first 45 mins so that you start off burning fat. I’ve found that after 45 mins I might have a gel but I seem to want to consume far less carbs than I would previously.

It also gets easier to go without, quite quickly. Yesterday i did a fairly stiff 2h15 ride at 7pm having only had a salad and a couple of coffees all day. Attempting Streatley hill in 39/25 did my legs in though!