- Helvellyn trails – anyone know this particular one?
No sure about that one, but there are several steep paths up from Thirlemere alongside gills that you wouldnt want to ride.
Just looked at an OS map, is it the bridleway that runs down to a phone box marked on the map – that looks interesting, but never read anything about it, or even walked up that wayPosted 5 years ago
Agent – thanks for this. I’m not sure which one it is – I didn’t know there were several and a friend told me about this one – I’ve done Dollywagon a few times but never noticed it on my way past. I do know there’s a good BW that veers off to the right as you follow the flat approach to Dollywagon from the summit. Steep, then flattens out and drops into some woods before you hit the road alongside Thirlmere. I can never remember it’s name.Posted 5 years ago
Sorry I don’t have a map ref or anything, but as you approach the top of Dollywagon Pike from Helvellyn’s summit, just near where the actual Dollywagon proper descent starts, there is a metal pole (I think) and what looks like a trail going off to the right (possibly it’s not even marked on a map, or it might well be footpath). Anyone know it, and whether it’s at all rideable or even worth a look? And where does it come out? Looking for an alternative to Dollywagon itself – don’t mind if it’s sketchy, exposed, techy. Ta.Posted 5 years ago
Done Sticks down to Glenridding, do you mean the other way, Freeride? Do you happen to know the trail I’m on about?
Agent – bang on, don’t want to waste the climb. Up there in a couple of weeks and looking for an alternative to Dollywagon, preferable that leads to the road between Thirlmere and Grasmere so we can then push back up to Grizedale Tarn and do the cracker to Glenridding.Posted 5 years ago
This post? It’s an old gatepost from a fence that was there years ago…quite a well known local landmark.
There’s a direct line down from there to the top of Raise Beck overlooking the west end of Grizedale tarn, often used by walkers and runners. It’s not much of a path as such though – just steep tussocky grass straight down the hillside and following an old tumbledown wall lower down.Posted 5 years ago
Elliptic – thanks very much for this – that might well be the one. I’ll forward a link to my friend for confirmation. Sounds as though it might not be such a smart descent – I was hoping for an actual trail really, albeit a challenging one. Ta anyway – you’ve possibly just saved me a fruitless slog!Posted 5 years ago
No probs. By the way the descent that agentd mentioned (to the phone box and the 181m spot height on the 1:25000) is the Wythburn path, which is pretty steep and rocky – probably most of it is rideable if you’re good enough (I’ve never tried) but definitely not an easy option to the Dollywagon descent.
Oh and the “push” up Raise Beck from Dunmail is mostly a carry. I’ve been up there more times than I can remember on foot, but only once with the bike 😉Posted 5 years ago
Thanks again, elliptic. Wythburn is the one whose name I’d forgotten – I’ve done it and it’s great if you like that sort of thing (which I do). It’s over pretty quickly though. Steep, with awkwardly placed drainage ditches, then there’s an obvious left-hander (which you can slightly cut using a chute) after which it flattens out before entering the woods. Carried up to Grizedale a few times too, but that descent to Patterdale/Glenridding is always worth the effort.Posted 5 years ago
Cheers. Done Sticks that way a long time ago – might be time for a revisit. This time around we’re settling for Wythburn followed by a bit of tarmac and carrying to finish with Grizedale Tarn to Patterdale. Interested in Red Pike (overlooking Buttermere) if anyone knows anything good here. And Ullock Pike – anyone got any tips? Ta.Posted 5 years ago
Ullock Pike – there are two descents off the summit down the scree. Both are top fun. The descent itself is easy to follow. I usually then head along tyhe Allerdakle Ramble to the saddle at Carl Side for the steeeeeeep grassy path descent to the village below. Marvellous! 😀
CheersPosted 5 years ago
Cheers, Ben. I’m crap with maps – is this different from the one I call Wythburn? The one I know starts a bit dull on a gravel track, then it gets rougher and pretty steep before flattening out a bit into singletrack which then leads through a gate I think, ending with a fast, rough descent through woods to a car park next to Thirlmere. Ta.Posted 5 years ago
If it’s the one I think it is (and I’m pretty certain it is) that Fleetwith dh is one of the best in the UK – a total cracker, and a big challenge to genuinely nail it all in one go (there’s a tree near the bottom that’s tricky to get around). Surprised you’ve not ridden it already, Ben. Check it out. It can be incorporated into the 4 passes ride/carry if you park at Seathwaite.Posted 5 years ago
Ayup, Ben – yes, it’s me! I’m always on the lookout for new trails, so I’ve taken to picking brains on here. Hope you’re well.
Sanny – you should check Fleetwith too. It’s not so much crazy steep like Rossett, but it’s a very long rock garden, full of rubble and with some natural steppy bits and a couple of tight squeezes. Needs a bit of momentum and commitment in places, and it’s quite exhausting too, so a breather is good (for me, at least – that’s why I’ll probably never manage it all in one go). Mint descent all round.Posted 5 years agoSimpleDumbPilotMember
The descent off St. Sunday Crag to Patterdale is definitely one to add to your list; plenty steep and technical.
Be good to meet up again for a Hebbers ride (if you all haven’t been washed away!)Posted 5 years ago
[PS: I’m James – red t-shirt in the vid – rode with you and ‘Orange’ Dan a few times]jambalayaSubscriber
@ben – nice photo’s
@freeride – I decided to take a look at Striding Edge a couple of weeks ago, did so, turned round and had lunch at Red Tarn instead ! It took my mate 45 mins to scramble to summit from where he promptly went down the wrong side as zero viz and didn’t return.
I never made the summit so planning to go back on the bikePosted 5 years ago
Fleetwith is great, loose as a goose…not as tech as Rosset though 😯
4 passes is the best day out in the country IMO…
Must do Sannys Classic over the western fells soon..
Also St Sunday, that looks ace.
Jamba, that would have embarassing if they had gone up the hill looking! and his safely tucked up in the pub!Posted 5 years agosnowpaulMember
Fleetwith pike was mostly a walker for me on my 100mm hardtail last winter with a touring rucksack on… I would like to try it again on my 5 spot – the section between dubs hut and before the trail veers right was ridiculous in the wet – the rest was quite sweet… still i reckon its a serious undertaking with a lot of scope for pain…
last weekend I rode greenup edge / lining crag on my flux – that was a challenge…. also did the blea tarn to watendlath trail – that was nice…
I still have rossett pike burned into my memory as ‘ never again ‘ = I love nan bield and helvellyn – still got to do red pike by bike though…
paulPosted 5 years ago
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