Footaball again? The Euro 2024 edition

If the FA want to appoint an English manager then I think it’s going to be a Head Coach from the Championship.

Eddie Howe and Gary ONeil are unlikely to be interested and Steve Cooper has recently joined Leicester.

The only other coach who knows the players and the Premier League who’s available is Poch but again, why would he be interested?

Edit, I forgot about Potter, I think you’re probably right.

Get Nigel Clough in – he’s got great form in polishing turds! 🙂

Yes he has gone finally, enjoy your knighthood Southgate and your Millions thanks for all your work.

Klopps having a rest before the Germany job. All fule no that.  Pep – no chance – not interested., and he won’t get the time to mould them to what he wants to do. What’s Potter doing?

I’ve heard a couple of things that it wasn’t as happy a camp as it has been in the past.   

Looked pretty good to me.  One of SOuthgates big wins has been that the camp hasn’t been as cliquy and disjointed, unhappy as it has been in the past when there have been big splits based on team, N vs .S, race..

FA may well promote Lee Carsley (currently England U21 coach), just like they did with Southgate – and obv they were very happy with the end result of their decision to do so.

Potter has been out of the game for too long and hasn’t proved much beyond producing patterns of pretty play without an end product. Sure, he didn’t have the players to finish off those moves, but IMO he should have taken another role last year and proved his credentials.

Howe is a good shout, certainly more progressive than the man departing.

There’s logic to doing everything possible to entice Klopp to take it now or Pep to take it next summer. Both options would surely elevate our team to the top tier.

I expect it’ll be Potter. It felt like the right time for Southgate to move on, maybe the haters will come to realise that overall he did an excellent job. Geoff Hurst thought so, anyway.

Eddie is my guess.

Steve Bruce.

Neil Warnock is a shoe in !

Southgate did a great job in building a team spirit (although there does seem to have been some leaks that was more PR than reality) and it is hard to imagine anyone could have dealt with the external pressures around taking the knee and the political attacks that brought any better.

However he was tactically so far behind even average managers, he is just another ex international regurgitating the training he did as a player without any knowledge of the patterns of play he needs to develop with the players he has.

I think it would be a good idea if they made him some kind of director of football at the FA to take the external pressures off any new manager, just let them get on with the job of coaching the team, IMO that would/could work really well.

The FA probably want Howe but will appoint Potter for no other reason that he’ll cost a lot less. Newcastle will want a lot of money in compensation to release Howe from his contract.

Steve Bruce

After watching England over the last few weeks  I was beginning to think it was Steve Bruce in a Southgate mask, exactly like watching Newcastle before Eddie Howe took over

Big Sam has served his time on the naughty step, Shirley?

tomhoward has it – time to bring back one of the old masters; in addition to Allardyce, other contenders are Hodgson and McClaren.

Potter has been out of the game for too long and hasn’t proved much beyond producing patterns of pretty play without an end product.

Blimey he’s only been out of a job for just over a year. Makes me feel a bit weird sticking up for him but, in the last 6-9 months he was at Brighton it finally seemed to click, we won something like 7 out of 9 games at the end of the 21-22 season and took us to our then highest league finish of 9th and then the start of the following season we won 4 drew 1 and lost 1 and were 4th in the league before he buggered off to Chelsea. He even started well at Chelsea pretty sure he was unbeaten before we got our sweet revenge and battered Chelsea at home before the wheels fell off.

Was always going to happen, Southgate is a nice bloke, but just doesn’t seem to get the best out of the resources he has, it’s no slight, as many international managers seem to be the same, look at Deschamps in France, and Germany these days.

I just think that there’s a lot of decent 25 or under players for England just now, some of the old guard are on the way out, a new manager might make it easier to make tweaks with Kane and so on, rather than feel it’s letting down his core players.

Not sure where he’ll go now, international to domestic never works that often, could he be the new face of commentary somewhere?

back to ordering pizzas wearing a brown paper bag?

Big Sam. Its been a week for miracle comebacks.

How about Roberto Martinez. He’s got form in failing with talented squads – the Belgians and now Portuguese.

Thomas Frank should be the answer.

 but just doesn’t seem to get the best out of the resources he has, it’s no slight, as many international managers seem to be the same, look at Deschamps

Hasn’t he won a world cup ?  Though they also had the same problem as England in that they couldn’t get the attack working properly.

I’d bear in mind that if the FA appointed a manager with a similar record to the Spanish (which has worked out well) the pundits, papers etc. would go mental.

Why do they have to be English?

Doesn’t have to be but it’s preferable, especially for a country with a big history and a big league system.

It really isn’t necessary though.

That is such a parochial attitude.

Yeah there was no major outcry at Sven and that was over 20 years ago. More of an outcry at his lack of tactical acumen, rightly.

Terrible shortlist.
Howe and Potter ? really ?? on the back of what exactly ??
Lampard and Gerrard ? Surprised the FA don’t appoint them both, they never could face leaving one of them out. Probably offer Scholes the job of bucket and Sponge man under them.

Once again, decent squad of players, no one even remotely good enough to manage them.

It’s all fun working out who’s next, i’m not English, but i think Unai Emery would be a great shout for England manager, he’s been around the premiership on and off, has flair and i could see him working out the pieces to build a decent team.

i think Unai Emery would be a great shout for England

Why on earth would he leave Villa for the England job?

Southgate has once again read the room correctly and called time just before people got properly fed up.  Overall, I think he emerges with great credit, not least restoring pride in the national team – with both players and fans.  Just a thought for the Eddie Howe promoters……both at The Toon and Bournemouth he seems to have encouraged a really niggly way of playing the game and that will not endear the team to anyone.  Where Southgate came up short this time around was, having been brave and left some favourite big names out of the squad, he then fell into the old England manager trap of trying to accommodate all of his remaining favourites into the eleven without properly adjusting the system.  Now, some of this boiled down to the left back problem in early games but it manifested itself most painfully up front where there was woeful lack of movement and spontaneity for too long.

It’s just the normal procession of big names who would never in a million years want the job, especially those who have managed in England and seen what a mauling the press gives the England manager. Klopp/Pep/Emery would be insane to even consider it.

And then settling for someone mediocre who has managed a couple of Premiership clubs but won nothing.

And then settling for someone mediocre who has managed a couple of Premiership clubs but won nothing.

Steve Bruce?

I think we’re ready for Sean Dyche, frankly.

On a more serious note, could we tempt Marcelo Bielsa over from Uruguay? That would make England watchable (including the post-match press conferences), although possibly not any more successful.

The players’ egos couldn’t cope with Bielsa. He’d have them picking up litter etc outside Wembley etc.

Why on earth would (insert name of manager here) leave (insert name of club here) for the England job?

I can’t see why anyone would join that graveyard of careers to deal with the ludicrous expectation and constant abuse. If you were actually any good, you wouldn’t have to give it much thought about dodging that particular bullet

The names being mentioned this morning – Poch, Klopp etc – wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole

Howe and Potter ? really ?? on the back of what exactly ??

Being English and doing a moderately good job of managing a premier league team. Being a premier league manager is a much more demanding job than England manager where you only play a few games per season and get to pick the best talent avaialble irregardless of price. International football is not the pinnacle of the sport.

Harry Kane

Neither is Newcastle

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Neither is Newcastle

No but I reckon managing any premier league club is a more challenging and rewarding job than being England manager. Managing England is the sort of thing you do when you’ve nothing left to prove at club level or if you’ve already failed at it (like Southgate and Allerdyce). With that in mind Lampard or Gerrard would be ideal candidates.

Gazza? It would make a fabulous Netflix show.